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Blessed are the pre-emptors[Spengler]
Asia Times Online ^ | 20 Feb 2008 | Spengler

Posted on 02/19/2008 5:47:41 AM PST by BGHater

Europe’s Man of Destiny is Geert Wilders, the 35-year-old leader of Holland’s tiny Freedom Party. He has provoked the world Muslim community in order to draw the violent jihadists out of the tall grass, and he seems to be succeeding. Call what Wilders has done nasty but necessary, and blame Europe’s so-called mainstream leaders for abandoning their posts, and leaving the standard in the hands of a young man with the courage to grasp it. At the moment the Dutch government is quaking over the consequences of a 10-minute film that Wilders plans to release in April denouncing the Koran.

Strictly speaking, I do not quite agree with Wilders that the Koran should be banned along with Hitler’s Mein Kampf as an incitement to violence. Nonetheless, he is doing precisely the right thing. A house divided against itself cannot stand, as Abraham Lincoln quoted the Gospels as he made ready to tear down the half that was misbehaving. No civilized state can abide a rival from within who contests the monopoly of violence of legitimate government. If governments refuse to act, the optimal course of action is pre-emptive: bring matters to a decision as fast as possible before the rot destroys the entire house.

Wilders has succeeded in getting the world's attention. "Should it come to riots, bloodshed and violence after broadcasting the Koran movie by PVV leader Geert Wilders, then Wilders will be responsible," the visiting Grand Mufti of Syria threatened the European Parliament in January.

(Excerpt) Read more at atimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: europe; geertwilders; islam; jihad; koran; sharia; spengler; wot
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1 posted on 02/19/2008 5:47:42 AM PST by BGHater
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To: BGHater

And the Oscar for this year’s best picture goes to......


2 posted on 02/19/2008 5:55:57 AM PST by jimmyo57
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To: BGHater

bttt


3 posted on 02/19/2008 5:56:45 AM PST by petercooper (Let's vote for the sickly, demented, terrorist-appeasing, illegal alien-coddling, senile, old guy.)
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To: BGHater

“If governments refuse to act, the optimal course of action is pre-emptive: bring matters to a decision as fast as possible before the rot destroys the entire house.”

Ok Freepers, how do we apply this principle to the current situation in the US regarding illegal immigration??


4 posted on 02/19/2008 5:58:29 AM PST by whipitgood (Neither of, by, or for the people any longer...)
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To: BGHater

‘I don’t hate Muslims. I hate Islam,’ says Holland’s rising political starGeert Wilders, the popular MP whose film on Islam has fuelled the debate on race in Holland, wants an end to mosque building and Muslim immigration.

The Dutch politician, who sees himself as heir to a recent string of assassinated or hounded mavericks who have turned Holland upside down, has been doing a crash course in Koranic study. Likening the Islamic sacred text to Hitler’s Mein Kampf, he wants the ‘fascist Koran’ outlawed in Holland, the constitution rewritten to make that possible, all immigration from Muslim countries halted, Muslim immigrants paid to leave and all Muslim ‘criminals’ stripped of Dutch citizenship and deported ‘back where they came from’. But he has nothing against Muslims. ‘I have a problem with Islamic tradition, culture, ideology. Not with Muslim people.’

Wilders has been immersing himself in the suras and verse of seventh-century Arabia. The outcome of his scholarship, a short film, has Holland in a panic. He is just putting the finishing touches to the 10-minute film, he says, and talking to four TV channels about screening it.

‘It’s like a walk through the Koran,’ he explains in a sterile conference room in the Dutch parliament in The Hague, security chaps hovering outside. ‘My intention is to show the real face of Islam. I see it as a threat. I’m trying to use images to show that what’s written in the Koran is giving incentives to people all over the world. On a daily basis Moroccan youths are beating up homosexuals on the streets of Amsterdam.’


5 posted on 02/19/2008 6:02:41 AM PST by IrishMike (I am not a Republican first. I am a conservative.)
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To: IrishMike

Great going, Geert !


6 posted on 02/19/2008 6:03:43 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (ENERGY CRISIS made in Washington D. C.)
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To: BGHater

Great article, thanks for posting!


7 posted on 02/19/2008 6:05:34 AM PST by TheKidster (you can only trust government to grow, consolidate power and infringe upon your liberties.)
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To: BGHater

There has to be a cutting edge in politics — someone that takes the hits in order to get an idea out there. Eugene Debs and the socialists for example. Then there needs to be Alinsky types, in camoflauge, respectable looking, moderate sounding that “compromise” and “sensibly” implement the policy. This is what the left has done to us. Do it back. Make your choice, which function do you perform?


8 posted on 02/19/2008 6:12:41 AM PST by Greg F (Do you want a guy named Hussein to fix your soul? Michelle Obama thinks you do.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Rising religious and ethnic violence has erupted across Holland, with attacks on immigrants and revenge attacks by them in response.

In just one week last month, more than 20 mosques, churches, Islamic and Christian schools were either petrol bombed or vandalised.

Half a dozen Dutch politicians accused of being “enemies of Islam” have received death threats. Two are deemed to be in such danger they are living in police safe houses.

The Speaker of the Dutch parliament, Jozias van Aartsen, said: “Holy war has come to the Netherlands.”

Holland’s educated, white middle class fear for the future, despite having an income per head that is higher than in any major country in Europe, and they are leaving their homeland in droves.
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Dutch artist and TV personality Theo Van Gogh, great-grandnephew of the painter Vincent Van Gogh, was cycling to work through the centre of Amsterdam when a Muslim extremist shot him eight times. As Van Gogh pleaded for his life, his attacker tried to chop off his head with a knife. The murder had seemingly been provoked by a film Mr Van Gogh had made, highlighting the treatment of women under Islam.


9 posted on 02/19/2008 6:19:31 AM PST by IrishMike (I am not a Republican first. I am a conservative.)
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To: IrishMike

Do the Dutch citizenry have the right to keep and bear arms?


10 posted on 02/19/2008 6:22:20 AM PST by stefanbatory
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To: BGHater

Remember when you read the article that ‘liberal’ in Europe still means ‘classical liberal’, while ‘conservative’ means ‘throne and altar conservative’.

Basically Wilders is a European analog of an American conservative of the libertarian-leaning strand.


11 posted on 02/19/2008 6:29:37 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: stefanbatory

Yes, they do. It was endowed upon them by our Creator, just like us.

However, I think the Dutch government infringes upon that right.


12 posted on 02/19/2008 6:30:05 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: whipitgood

“If governments refuse to act, the optimal course of action is pre-emptive: bring matters to a decision as fast as possible before the rot destroys the entire house.”

Ok Freepers, how do we apply this principle to the current situation in the US regarding illegal immigration??
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Organize and give — go outside the bounds of the ordinary; don’t preach just to the converted. Reach out to anyone “non-political” or marginally political that MAY be concerned about illegal immigration and get them locked in with grassfire and NumbersUSA. Start to rally and get involved at every opportunity.

On the macro level, 100% sure of this, the Christian right and the conservative movement must work together and unite to win — or seperately lose. The combined votes are a plurality of the party . . . seperate they lead to a process like we’ve had this year in the Presidential primary. Simply look for a politician that has been consistently pro-life in his public career and talks the talk that movement conservatives understand . . . and walks the walk as well (no more Romneys that just divide the movement internally and split off Christian conservatives). Somebody that unashamedly goes to a Christian church or a Jewish synagogue is your best pick in regards to the Christian right (who have the voters and the workers) . . . and someone that does not focus as much on the religious side of the house, basically a man of quiet faith, to not alienate non-religious movement conservatives that have been swayed by the left-wing “theocracy” fears.

Luckily, that profile is met by many if not most movement conservatives that gain office.


13 posted on 02/19/2008 6:36:43 AM PST by Greg F (Do you want a guy named Hussein to fix your soul? Michelle Obama thinks you do.)
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To: BGHater

The swords and the plowshares...


14 posted on 02/19/2008 6:38:36 AM PST by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: stefanbatory

I don’t believe so, possibly with the exception hunting / sporting type exceptions.

Contrary to popular hype, European gun control does not mean that European citizens lack access to firearms. In fact, street prices of more common firearms in European capitals are not much higher than what one would expect to pay in a gun shop in the US.

London has become famous for two things: Strict gun control and easy availability of firearms for their criminal classes. Generally, shopping for black market weapons on a small scale is not like browsing gun shops in places where the weapons are legal. Browsing is bad form and you must be prepared to buy once the connection is met. Extended negotiation or waffling on a deal is bad form and more likely than not going to burn the possibility of any future contact with the other party. Selections are often very limited. Unlike a conventional commercial purchase, the buyer will probably not be able to dictate the make and model of gun that he will buy, but will probably be able to request the type.


15 posted on 02/19/2008 6:42:43 AM PST by IrishMike (I am not a Republican first. I am a conservative.)
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To: stefanbatory
The European Union is very busy however trying to castrate it’s citizenry even further -

A safety catch for stricter gun control barrels ahead

1 December 2007 -

The European Commission is urging EU member states to adopt what it is describing as a common set of “minimum rules” limiting the ownership of guns across the 27-member bloc. The proposal by the EU executive, which was endorsed by the European Parliament on November 29, makes proper and complete marking of firearms compulsory. It also imposes strict conditions on the use of guns by minors and calls on member states to set up a computerised firearms database by the end of 2014. This database, accessible by the police and judicial authorities, would hold detailed information about guns and their owners for a minimum of 20 years.

16 posted on 02/19/2008 6:50:20 AM PST by IrishMike (I am not a Republican first. I am a conservative.)
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Hirsi Ali’s appearance last week before the European Parliament. She has lived under guard since Theo van Gogh’s murder in 2004. To its shame, the Dutch government has stopped paying for her security. On February 14 she asked the European Parliament to fund her security, saying: "The threats to my life have not subsided and the cost is beyond anything I can pay ... I find myself in a very desperate position. I don't want to die. I want to live and I love life. I'm going to do anything legal to get help."

We should set up a fund for her. Would be great PR for FR as well as saving a woman's life...
17 posted on 02/19/2008 6:56:53 AM PST by steel_resolve (If you can't stand behind our troops, then please stand in front...)
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To: whipitgood

You get every state to pass the same law we now have in AZ...every employer MUST check all employees against the Social Security data base, or face large fines and or loss of their business licenses. Phoenix has also just changed the procedures for police stops...so that they can ask EVERYONE (we have to be politically correct you know...)for proof of citizenship and report problems to ICE. The results are showing...illegals are packing it up and moving to YOUR states!


18 posted on 02/19/2008 7:02:04 AM PST by HappyinAZ
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To: IrishMike

I think the point I was attempting to get to is that if your internal enemy knows that the citizens he wishes to subjegate are armed and proficient in the usage of those arms, he will think twice before commencing violence.

Would our buddy from Northern Illinois or from Virginia Tech have perpetrated his violence if he were fearful of getting taken down by a random person in the crowd before accomplishing their “mission?” What would have transpired if there was someone in the crowd who was able to stop him before several of those lives were taken by him?

Would these “youths” in France have been as destructive to the personal property of others had they had a fear of being shot to death in the act? Would they have gotten away with it in Texas? Florida?

The right of the citizens to defend themselves from such people, and the will to do so are going to be critical in this upcoming conflict.


19 posted on 02/19/2008 7:02:26 AM PST by stefanbatory
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To: BGHater

Only 10 minutes to make a point about the Quran. I’ve heard rumors that Muslims fear he will rip the book to shreds. It wouldn’t surprise me to see something very dramatic. I wonder if 10 minutes is all that is needed to read appropriate passages, rip them out, and burn them?

A few wiser clerics have been admonishing Muslims not to overreact to things like the Muhammad cartoons. They know it makes Muslims look ridiculous and ignorant. But whatever Wilders does with his little film, I’m sure it will provoke and there will be riots.


20 posted on 02/19/2008 8:15:33 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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