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Toshiba Announces Discontinuation of HD DVD Businesses
Toshiba, Japan (article in Engrish) ^ | 19 February 2007 | Toshiba Corporate Announcement

Posted on 02/19/2008 9:02:21 AM PST by Vigilanteman

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To: Centurion2000
I’ll never forget that Sony ran root kits on CD’s and other media.

Have you forgotten that Toshiba sold Russia precise milling technology to manufacture quiet props for their submarines - costing us $$$$ in security costs/risks?

41 posted on 02/19/2008 9:44:06 AM PST by BipolarBob (I've been stung by honey bees and bumblebees. I don't want no huckle bee.)
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To: southlake_hoosier
A typical DVD player with an upconvert 1080i or 1080p and a monitor with the appropriate 1080i or 1080p gets you the same picture as a Blu-Ray or HD DVD.

Not true. A standard DVD contains a maximum of 720 lines of resolution. "Upconverting" to 1080i or 1080p does not add information that wasn't there to begin with; it either extrapolates the extra pixels or it doubles existing pixels. You may or may not notice the difference, but the difference is real nonetheless. Upconversion is not magic.

42 posted on 02/19/2008 9:45:03 AM PST by xjcsa (I hated McCain before hating McCain was cool.)
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To: Eva

“I have a question about how this will affect the computers. I have read that some of the new computers are coming with Blu-ray. Will they have DVD writers in Blu-ray, too? This is all confusing and frustrating.”

Blu-Ray on PC is much different. They have them built in to Laptops and they work. Of course with a 15” to 17” screen why bother...

There are both Blu-Ray readers only and readers/writers available. #1 they are expensive - $200 for a reader and $350 for a burner. Plus your montherboard, video card, HDMI cable and monitor must all be HDCP certified. If any one peice of the chain is not it will downscale or not run at all. That is even before you begin to talk about sound. Its difficult to get decent sound quality out of the system. Then there is the issue of software to play it on.

Dont bother trying to get Blu-Ray on your PC unless you live on the bleeding edge and dont mind spending money and tinkering.


43 posted on 02/19/2008 9:47:17 AM PST by Syntyr ( Freepers - In the top %5 of informed Americans!)
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To: Syntyr

Wow, your eyes are better then mine. :)

I opted for a Olevia 37” 1080i bought from Office Depot for $650, and a Panasonic upconvert DVD player from Raio Shack for $50.

Everything I have played looks as good as anything I have seen.

Now, that is from a distance of about 20 feet.

As you have said, mileage may vary.


44 posted on 02/19/2008 9:47:25 AM PST by southlake_hoosier (.... One Nation, Under God.......)
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To: Eva
full HD set (1080p), which cost about $3000 on up

I bought a 1080p 57" DLP for less than $2000 last year.

45 posted on 02/19/2008 9:48:23 AM PST by kevkrom (Voters say they want substance, but then they just vote for the guy with nice hair instead.)
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To: southlake_hoosier

I just got a new computer from Costco, before Christmas, and I am thinking of returning it, if I still have time.

I really think that this is a scam to sell more expensive equipment. Most of the Blu-ray discs that I have seen are the $35 variety. I don’t know what double layer means, but there aren’t many movies out there that I would pay $35 to own.

I have heard that you will still be able to down-load movies directly from the internet and there is always ppv.


46 posted on 02/19/2008 9:48:25 AM PST by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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To: Myrddin

I also have the Sony BDP-S300. It replaced an Oppo standard DVD player, one of the expensive models with 1080i upconverting capability. I was very happy with the picture from the Oppo, but the standard DVD upconvert on the Sony BluRay puts it to shame. I don’t know if it’s because the Sony upconverts to 1080p, or if it is something else, but a standard DVD played on the Sony looks terrific on my 52” LCD flatscreen. Not quite as good as a real BluRay, but pretty darn close. Close enough that I would never consider replacing a standard DVD that I already own with a newly purchased BluRay version.


47 posted on 02/19/2008 9:48:57 AM PST by NewMexLurker
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To: xjcsa

I agree, but like you said, will you notice? Probably not unless you are less then 5 feet from the monitor and have a monitor larger then 42”.


48 posted on 02/19/2008 9:49:36 AM PST by southlake_hoosier (.... One Nation, Under God.......)
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To: Vigilanteman

Damned evolution.


49 posted on 02/19/2008 9:50:11 AM PST by onedoug
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To: kevkrom

I don’t think that they had (p) sets last year, only 1080i. I have 1080i.


50 posted on 02/19/2008 9:50:11 AM PST by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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To: dfwgator
Guess this time Sony didn't have to deal with the porn industry, since today it's mostly distributed online.

What? No Blue movies on BluRay?

51 posted on 02/19/2008 9:52:15 AM PST by null and void (Don’t panic, they have the news under control.)
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To: Eva

Yes, they did. It’s a Mitsubishi, and it supports 1080p, though my highest input right now is my 1080i DirecTV HD-DVR. I’ve been waiting for the “format war” to end before I shelled out for an HD DVD player.


52 posted on 02/19/2008 9:52:18 AM PST by kevkrom (Voters say they want substance, but then they just vote for the guy with nice hair instead.)
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To: Cobra64
“Will these new gadgets play regular old standard DVD movies? “

Yes. Thank goodness. I can’t afford to replace my 800+ DVD collection with Blu-Ray. I have played about 15 of my standard DVDs on the new Blu-Ray DVD player with zero problems.

I have only picked up Aeon Flux, The Rock, Crimson Tide, and Pirates of the Caribbean Curse of the Black Pearl.

They all look awesome.

53 posted on 02/19/2008 9:53:16 AM PST by Syntyr ( Freepers - In the top %5 of informed Americans!)
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To: Eva

There is a good chance that Netflix will offer download services soon. You would have a box, like a cable box, that your movies would upload to. Then you play them like TiVo. When you are done, you erase it, and they download the next one.

Will you ever want Blu-Ray on a computer. Maybe some day. I would not worry about it for a couple of years. By that time you will need a new computer anyway.


54 posted on 02/19/2008 9:53:53 AM PST by southlake_hoosier (.... One Nation, Under God.......)
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To: kevkrom

I could have the (P) and (I) mixed up. One is new and is the one that costs a lot and works with Blu-Ray, the other is old, regular high definition. The last year’s high definition still gets you a better picture on DVDs than you can receive from cable or satellite. The lower level high definition tvs are fine for watching tv.


55 posted on 02/19/2008 9:53:57 AM PST by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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To: Vigilanteman

What effect does this have on all of my old VCR tapes?


56 posted on 02/19/2008 9:54:23 AM PST by crusty old prospector
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To: All

We just went to Best Buy to look at the Magnolia Home Theatre Systems and the sales guy played Mission Impossible on Blu-Ray. Does Blu-Ray have a superior sound quality over a regular DVD? Is there that much of a difference?


57 posted on 02/19/2008 9:55:14 AM PST by TightyRighty
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To: kevkrom

Is your DVR really 1080i? I was told that they only really receive 780?


58 posted on 02/19/2008 9:56:39 AM PST by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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To: Eva

“I could have the (P) and (I) mixed up”

I = Interlaced. The player scans every other line and then comes back on the second pass and scans all of the other lines it missed on pass 1. So 2 passes to draw one screen.

P = Progressive. 1 pass scanning every line.

1080p is better at rendering high motion scenes.


59 posted on 02/19/2008 9:57:58 AM PST by Syntyr ( Freepers - In the top %5 of informed Americans!)
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To: Vigilanteman

Word on the street is that Liberals were four times more likely to have purchased a HD DVD player than Conservatives, while conservatives were 6 times more likely than Liberals to have picked Blu-Ray as the winner of the fomrat war.

(Okay, I just made that up, but it could be true.)


60 posted on 02/19/2008 9:59:37 AM PST by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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