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Where have all the good sci-fi films gone (vanity)?
Yours truly

Posted on 02/19/2008 11:03:14 AM PST by rjp2005

Where have all the sci-fi films gone?

Those simple, thought-provoking speculative tales about how people respond to something new, what kind of moral choices they make, keeping traditions in the face of technological change. Essentially, the kind of films that were thought provoking and story/character driven - Day the Earth Stood Still, Planet of Apes, 12 Monkeys, Minority Report (more action though but good), etc.

The "Superhero and Fantasy Genre Craze" since Spiderman and LOTR has really eaten up a lot of support for original sci-fi works to film...

For 2008, we have two horror/slasher types "I Am Legend" (Omega Man remake) and "Death Race" (revisiting the 70's version), another superhero film in "Jumper", "Iron Man", which could be a treat, and maybe the only true sci-fi attempt, "Babylon A.D.". There was also "Sunshine", a late 90's disaster film leftover, possibly funded by Global Warming-mongers ;)


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For 2008, we have two horror/slasher types "I Am Legend" (Omega Man remake) and "Death Race" (revisiting the 70's version), another superhero film in "Jumper", and maybe the only true sci-fi attempt, "Babylon A.D.". There was also "Sunshine", a late 90's disaster film leftover, possibly funded by Global Warming-mongers ;)

It will be interesting where they go with re-making The Day the Earth Stood still next December. The "peace in our time" theme will probably be very strong if Hollywood has a say...

Surely they can do better. What about a film depicting a resistance movement in post-war Islamicized Europe? Or a time traveler returning to help stop a nuclear terrorism disaster? Or an elite team responding to a cyber-attack on the electrical grid? Or a scientist accidentally goes in hibernation in Southwest, awakens to see Mexico/China controlling parts of the US. Or a future oil rush in the arctic, with mega companies scrambling for outposts and making claims in the glaciers. Just some ideas.

1 posted on 02/19/2008 11:03:19 AM PST by rjp2005
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2 posted on 02/19/2008 11:04:36 AM PST by squidly
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Well - the X-files 2 movie is coming out this year I think. That should be more on the “thought-provoking” scheme of things.


3 posted on 02/19/2008 11:05:15 AM PST by geopyg (Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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To: rjp2005

I was hoping for a remake of “THEM”


4 posted on 02/19/2008 11:06:03 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: rjp2005

The same as where the chidren gone
Gone long time ago...


5 posted on 02/19/2008 11:06:38 AM PST by Augustinian monk (Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin - Romans 4:8)
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To: rjp2005

as for depth, nothing beats Babylon 5 TOS.


6 posted on 02/19/2008 11:07:07 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: squidly
Now that many of the technologies these films predicted are finally here, the declining cost of making thought-provoking indie films (not with Hollywood budgets!) will make many of these stories filmable at last.
7 posted on 02/19/2008 11:07:53 AM PST by BlazingArizona
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To: squidly
Or an elite team responding to a cyber-attack on the electrical grid?

John McClane already took care of that one ...

8 posted on 02/19/2008 11:08:17 AM PST by tx_eggman ("they want to be judged on their intentions, not their results" - libtards official motto)
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To: GAY
......................................................."I mean, that's 'fairy tale' man!"

9 posted on 02/19/2008 11:09:29 AM PST by evets (beer)
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To: tx_eggman
John McClane already took care of that one ...

Well then, let's elect him President!

/jaj

10 posted on 02/19/2008 11:10:25 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Men fight well when they know that no prisoners will be taken.)
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To: rjp2005

a resistance movement in post-war Islamicized Europe
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We can read about that resistance movement right now on Free Republic.


11 posted on 02/19/2008 11:10:29 AM PST by Greg F (Do you want a guy named Hussein to fix your soul? Michelle Obama thinks you do.)
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To: rjp2005
Ain't been the same since 'ole Ed bought the farm.

12 posted on 02/19/2008 11:10:41 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: rjp2005

I liked Tim Man although its mini-series presentation probably knocks it out of your category. I do think the wealth of channels available means the innovative stuff gets targeted there, Sarah Connor Chronicles being an example.


13 posted on 02/19/2008 11:10:46 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Who Would Montgomery Brewster Choose?)
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I am surprised that no one has tried to screw up one of my all time favorites with a remake: Forbidden Planet.


14 posted on 02/19/2008 11:10:53 AM PST by LRS (It's time to put Hillary on the 3:10 to Yuma...)
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To: rjp2005

Plot and substance sacrificed to special effects grandstanding. Everything is too slick, I like a bit of grittiness.

Among my favorites:

70’s
Soylent Green
Rollerball
Star Wars

80’s
Road Warrior
Blade Runner


15 posted on 02/19/2008 11:11:09 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: AppyPappy

Think I’ll watch “The Fifth Element” this evening.


16 posted on 02/19/2008 11:11:19 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: evets
I would like to see them make Azimov’s Classic The Foundation Trilogy!
17 posted on 02/19/2008 11:11:30 AM PST by Empireoftheatom48 (My tag line is broken)
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To: camle

Except Fireball XL5.


18 posted on 02/19/2008 11:12:15 AM PST by Richard Kimball (Sure, they'd love to kill me, as long as they can do it without admitting I exist)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

That’s a good one too.

Bruce Willis is at his best when he’s obviously having fun.


19 posted on 02/19/2008 11:12:35 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: rjp2005

I heard they were redoing the first Star Trek - not excited about it, though.

I hope Iron Man is good.


20 posted on 02/19/2008 11:12:36 AM PST by RabidBartender
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To: rjp2005

All the good sci-fi writing is on television these days. Lost, Heroes, Jericho, Battlestar Galactica, etc. Sci-Fi and FX channels make their own movies and series, some are pretty good.

Movies are junk, but I liked Cloverfield and Transformers.


21 posted on 02/19/2008 11:12:45 AM PST by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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Those shows are playing nightly in the skies above Stephensville, Texas. Live performances for those willing to watch...


22 posted on 02/19/2008 11:12:45 AM PST by pointsal
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To: rjp2005

I was deeply saddened when this was canceled, it really could have had legs if given a chance.

23 posted on 02/19/2008 11:13:06 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: rjp2005
"Death Race"...what a cult classic. Euthanasia day at the geriatric ward, and "It's a hand-grenade."

I'm not really looking forward to any movies, but I am getting a kick out of the Terminator-Sarah Connor Chronicles show. Last night was an interesting twist - John is actually turning out to be resourcefull and daring - completely unlike T-3. Much better character than T-2, even. Not hard to beat Furlong, though.

24 posted on 02/19/2008 11:13:43 AM PST by IYAS9YAS
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They are still around. Why don’t you try An Inconvenient Truth? I heard that is great science fiction!


25 posted on 02/19/2008 11:14:05 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed less people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: rjp2005
What about a film depicting a resistance movement in post-war Islamicized Europe?

Yeah, good luck seeing that plot come out of Hollywood. ;)

Even "Sunshine" turned out to be more of a horror movie, with a supernatural twist that ruined it as a legitimate SciFi work. There hasn't been anything good since "Serenity", and it's past time for Hollywood to get Joss Whedon back to work.

26 posted on 02/19/2008 11:14:47 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Richard Kimball

my brother was a big fireball XL5 fan. I preferred Stingray or Supercar meself;-)

gerry anderson fans know what we’re on about...


27 posted on 02/19/2008 11:14:53 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: NonValueAdded

“I liked Tim Man although its mini-series presentation probably knocks it out of your category. I do think the wealth of channels available means the innovative stuff gets targeted there, Sarah Connor Chronicles being an example.”

Battlestar Galactica (the new one) is a good show. Tin Man was pretty good, as well. I was surprised by that one.


28 posted on 02/19/2008 11:15:04 AM PST by Londo Molari
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
John McClane already took care of that one ...

Well then, let's elect him President!

D@mn! Here I was all excited about the election and I looked at the ballot again and we've got McCAIN!. Boy, am I embarrassed.

29 posted on 02/19/2008 11:15:07 AM PST by Richard Kimball (Sure, they'd love to kill me, as long as they can do it without admitting I exist)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Logan's Run?

-PJ

30 posted on 02/19/2008 11:15:19 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: LRS

Forbidden Planet My favorite, boy did I have nightmares after seeing it as a kid. I have the music and play it from time to time Way Far Out!!!


31 posted on 02/19/2008 11:15:40 AM PST by Empireoftheatom48 (My tag line is broken)
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To: AppyPappy

Whose “THEM”? Michigan? Heh heh.


32 posted on 02/19/2008 11:17:21 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: rjp2005

You forgot Cloverfield.

There’s also a lot of sci-fi on TV: Heroes, Lost, Battlestar-Galactica.


33 posted on 02/19/2008 11:17:40 AM PST by luckystarmom
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To: AppyPappy

We need a good remake of that Rowdy Roddy Piper classic...”They Live” Especially that overly drawn out fight scene where he gets the guy to look through the glasses.

I’m thinking Will Smith and Martin Lawrence could duplicate this as lead roles. Pick whatever glamour babe you want as the girl who takes him back to her house, and then a bunch of liberals could play the “THEY” roles. Saves on makeup in the case of Nancy Pelosi....


34 posted on 02/19/2008 11:18:00 AM PST by dba.adabas
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To: rjp2005

Hey, even though Tom Cruise was in it, I thought War of the Worlds was pretty good. Pretty faithful to the original concept, too (just modernized).


35 posted on 02/19/2008 11:18:22 AM PST by Londo Molari
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To: Political Junkie Too

Now there’s a classic. I love Logan’s Run.

Death race was good too, I still say to myself, 25 points when some one tries to step out in front of the car.

RS


36 posted on 02/19/2008 11:19:21 AM PST by RikaStrom (The number one rule of the Kama Sutra is that you both be on the same page.../Exeter 051705)
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To: rjp2005

Thank George Lucas and Lucas Films for the ushering in of CGI and ruining movies. His first 3 (or last 3 in the saga) Star Wars were great. Then he went CGI and the plot lines and good writing meant nothing, and why should they when you can have super cool computer effects!


37 posted on 02/19/2008 11:19:48 AM PST by Bommer ("He that controls the spice controls the universe!" (unfortunately that spice is Nutmeg!)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Logan's RUn

Saw it in the theatre when I was 16, so I obviously remember certain "parts" better than others.

38 posted on 02/19/2008 11:19:49 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: stinkerpot65

Not to mention, (IMO) THE best sci-fi series...or ANY series, for that matter:

Babylon 5.


39 posted on 02/19/2008 11:21:17 AM PST by hoagy62 (Happily watching the Left go full-goose bozo.)
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To: rjp2005
A lot of the best Sci-Fi is on TV nowadays.
40 posted on 02/19/2008 11:24:15 AM PST by Live free or die (Your enemy's stupidity and cowardice does you more honor than his courage.)
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To: rjp2005
Don't forget Wednesday night's Lunar Eclipse.
41 posted on 02/19/2008 11:24:23 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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Ender’s Game (based on Orson Scott Card’s novels) is a potential barn burner, but it doesn’t seem to be high on Wolfgang Peterson’s priority list.

There was some hype over development of Rendezvous w/Rama (Arthur C. Clarke/Gantry Lee’s story), but it seems to be stuck in limbo.


42 posted on 02/19/2008 11:24:58 AM PST by Go_Raiders ("Being able to catch well in a crowd just means you can't get open, that's all." -- James Lofton)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Anybody seen “Howard the Duck” from 1986? A duck from a parallel universe saves Earth from the dark overlord!

One of the best sci-fi movies I have seen recently is a Japanese sci-fi from 2003, called Casshern. It is better than Matrix! View it on HD if you can.


43 posted on 02/19/2008 11:25:11 AM PST by aragona
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To: rjp2005
Except for "2001", pretty much all science fiction is more fiction than science, especially Star Wars, which is pure "space fantasy".

44 posted on 02/19/2008 11:26:17 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (*-o(:^{>)
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To: Empireoftheatom48

A remake today would probably have the Krell going extinct because of global warming, or some other such nonsense, instead of them forgeting their innate selves, which I always associated with liberalism ( like how they blame an object instead of human nature.)


45 posted on 02/19/2008 11:27:21 AM PST by LRS (It's time to put Hillary on the 3:10 to Yuma...)
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To: rjp2005

There is very little good science fiction in the realm of literature. Then, when that which is actually good is made into a movie, the story is sacrificed for special effect. If that weren’t enough, Will Smith or Tom Cruise are cast in the major role to insure it will be a dud.

I really liked Outer Limits, the series. I even went back and found the old black & white series, which was just cheesy enough to be enjoyable. Most sci-fi is best viewed with Mike, Tom Servo and Crow. That way, even if it is bad, it is good.


46 posted on 02/19/2008 11:28:08 AM PST by WildcatClan (The epitome of irony is that few entities exist, less common, than common-sense.)
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Even though Lucas got trashed by the critics, I enjoyed HTD, but could have done without the interspecies sex.


47 posted on 02/19/2008 11:29:04 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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You may call them crappy movies, but we call them "Job Security." Whenever a movie is pretentious and cheesy, we'll be there!

48 posted on 02/19/2008 11:29:05 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: rjp2005
You're right - they're not making them like they used to. Or maybe we're just getting old?

Carolyn

49 posted on 02/19/2008 11:29:07 AM PST by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: rjp2005

The first Matrix was pretty good./Just Asking - seoul62...........


50 posted on 02/19/2008 11:29:11 AM PST by seoul62
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