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Proud Michelle vs. Proud Cindy (note: Michelle left off "really" in Milwaukee)
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/02/proud_michelle.html ^

Posted on 02/20/2008 11:24:19 AM PST by HD1200

MILWAUKEE -- Michelle Obama made two separate remarks in Wisconsin on Monday declaring a new pride she has felt in her country -- comments that today came under oblique attack from another would-be first lady, Cindy McCain.

At a midday event on Monday in Milwaukee, Obama said, "For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback."

A few hours later in Madison, she made a similar point, although with some adjustments to her language:

"For the first time in my adult lifetime, I'm really proud of my country -- not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change. I have been desperate to see our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in my frustration and disappointment."

Press reports, including on this blog, initially confused the two events (my note: Probably INTENTIONALLY!)

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2008; barackhusseinobama; chebama; cindymccain; michelleobama; nobama
How come half the world is unaware this lady made TWO speeches in Wisconsin and it was in the FIRST speech she LEFT OFF THE WORD REALLY:

"For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback."

Notice that the world "really" is missing from her first speech.

1 posted on 02/20/2008 11:24:20 AM PST by HD1200
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To: HD1200

Cindy has two sons in the military and an ex-POW husband...and Michelle? What has her husband done for the country, other than running around inflicting his empty speeches on it?


2 posted on 02/20/2008 11:26:24 AM PST by madison10
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To: HD1200

The problem wasn’t the difference between proud or really proud. The problem was “For the first time in my adult life”. Leave that part off and the statement in either form (proud or really proud) is perfectly acceptable. Apparently that’s what they don’t understand.


3 posted on 02/20/2008 11:26:38 AM PST by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: All

Link to where just FOX NEWS has a video of BOTH speeches:

Michelle Obama is ‘Proud’ of Her Country
by FOX News Political Team

Click here to compare the two statements by Michelle Obama on being proud of the U.S.

http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/02/19/michelle-obama-is-proud-of-her-country/


4 posted on 02/20/2008 11:27:03 AM PST by HD1200
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To: Domandred

I agree, but people defending what she said are doing it soley on the second speech where she prefixed proud by the word “really” and then they parse what she meant. These people refuse to even acknowledge the first speech made in Milwaukee.


5 posted on 02/20/2008 11:28:24 AM PST by HD1200
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To: madison10
Cindy has two sons in the military and an ex-POW husband...and Michelle? What has her husband done for the country, other than running around inflicting his empty speeches on it?

Is this another one of those "Lesser of Two Evils" trick questions?

6 posted on 02/20/2008 11:29:20 AM PST by TankerKC (I tried to find more Nixon.)
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To: HD1200

I would bet that Barak took his wife into some remote room and told her a few things. Like “listen you dumb *****, you’re going to cost me the election with your stupid remarks. At least fake being proud of your country”. Her statement might cost Obama two million votes in the general election. If Obama has any brains, he’ll try to muzzle her and keep her offstage.


7 posted on 02/20/2008 11:31:23 AM PST by driftless2
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To: HD1200

I do know of one Republican who had Bambi eyes, that did a complete 180 when she heard Michelle say this..

Gave her enough pause to actually take a second look at what Obama really IS.


8 posted on 02/20/2008 11:32:07 AM PST by digger48 (http://prorev.com/legacy.htm)
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To: TankerKC
Is this another one of those "Lesser of Two Evils" trick questions?

LOL Not exactly.

9 posted on 02/20/2008 11:33:45 AM PST by madison10
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To: HD1200

Interesting.

In the olden days when the liberal big-city newspapers and “big three” networks thoroughly controlled the selection, spin, and dissemination of the daily news, Democrat scumbags like Michelle Obama would have gotten away with this deception just as surely as Dan Rather would have gotten away with his forged National Guard memo.

Thank God those days are gone forever.


10 posted on 02/20/2008 11:34:38 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: HD1200
Now showing at Democrat Primaries... nationwide!

And let... the games begin!

11 posted on 02/20/2008 11:36:23 AM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Lancey Howard

No......not really


12 posted on 02/20/2008 11:36:27 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: driftless2
"I would bet that Barak took his wife into some remote room and told her a few things. Like “listen you dumb *****, you’re going to cost me the election with your stupid remarks. At least fake being proud of your country”. Her statement might cost Obama two million votes in the general election. If Obama has any brains, he’ll try to muzzle her and keep her offstage.

Perahps, but remember this is the guy who disses people for wearing an American flag lapel pin and refuses to put his hand over his heart during the national anthem. In his Hyde Park and Cambridge circle, that's normal, even a cause for admiration. But Americans notice things like that. With nothing else to go on, they will make their decisions based on these kinds of perceptions. Once again, this will be an election where "character counts".

13 posted on 02/20/2008 11:37:13 AM PST by Parmenio
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To: digger48

must have been a very uninformed GOPer to start with

anyone who pays attention knows Obama is a Mau Mau

guilty whites are enamoured with him

ever notice how most of the bigtime black political demigods are mixed race

coincidence?

/s


14 posted on 02/20/2008 11:38:25 AM PST by wardaddy (Political Correctness is to Western Culture what the Aids virus is to the cake community)
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To: HD1200

15 posted on 02/20/2008 11:39:28 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: driftless2

Obama wouldn’t dare do that, she’s his political meal ticket- without her, he’d have been chased from South Side politics as “too white” and “acts white”.
This is how they really feel, both of them.


16 posted on 02/20/2008 11:40:57 AM PST by steve8714 (Loyalty has an expiration date and is not transferable.)
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To: madison10
I really don't see much difference between the two statements.
17 posted on 02/20/2008 11:49:51 AM PST by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: digger48

This statement made me decide to vote for McCain and to actively support him.


18 posted on 02/20/2008 11:52:08 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: HD1200

This will go well with the photo of Obama refusing to salute the flag, and make a good commercial.


19 posted on 02/20/2008 11:52:35 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: wardaddy
most of the bigtime black political demigods are mixed race

No I haven't notice that most of the black political demigods are mixed race. I'm not sure what your point is here.
20 posted on 02/20/2008 12:02:17 PM PST by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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To: wardaddy
must have been a very uninformed GOPer to start with

More disgusted, than uninformed. Emotional, not inattentive. Sick of the slice and dice politics since the Clintons came on the scene.

the kind of voter that can turn an election on its head

21 posted on 02/20/2008 12:08:27 PM PST by digger48 (http://prorev.com/legacy.htm)
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To: HD1200

Proud vs really proud. Hmm. Little difference to me. It’s the “for the first time in my adult life...” part that bugged me.


22 posted on 02/20/2008 12:08:51 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Domandred
The problem wasn’t the difference between proud or really proud. The problem was “For the first time in my adult life”. Leave that part off and the statement in either form (proud or really proud) is perfectly acceptable. Apparently that’s what they don’t understand.

I think the whole thing is meaningless grasping at straws. Sort of like arguing who has the biggest mole on their rear.

23 posted on 02/20/2008 12:12:55 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: madison10
Michelle’s faux pas is inexcusable, but I still can’t stand Cindy. Cindy is a vicious, stepford-like, first lady wannabe. No sale.
24 posted on 02/20/2008 12:16:01 PM PST by khnyny (Quid Est Veritas)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
It’s the “for the first time in my adult life...” part that bugged me.

I agree. Wasn't Hussein elected to the Senate? Give me a break.

That comment (made TWICE) was a glimpse at the cynicism and dislike for this country that she REALLY,,,yes REALLY,,,,has.

After all,,,,hasn't Hussein boasted that "WORDS DO MATTER"!!! (I HOPE they REALLY do)

25 posted on 02/20/2008 12:19:18 PM PST by stockstrader
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To: khnyny

Really? Wow, hadn’t heard that much about her.


26 posted on 02/20/2008 12:20:30 PM PST by madison10
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To: driftless2

“listen you dumb *****”

She would have knocked him on his skinny black ass if he would have said that. That woman scares me.


27 posted on 02/20/2008 12:21:03 PM PST by toddlintown (Michelle Obama; Teresa Heinz, minus the gin-soaked raisins.)
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To: khnyny
Michelle’s faux pas is inexcusable, but I still can’t stand Cindy. Cindy is a vicious, stepford-like, first lady wannabe. No sale.

Not to mention those weirdo eyes. And the little fact she would be a convicted druggie if juan had not illegally fixed it.

28 posted on 02/20/2008 12:31:32 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: madison10

On MSNBC it was explained Michele would not apologize for the remark because EVERYBODY ON THE CAMPIGN ARE TO AFRAID OF HER TO ADVISE HER THAT THAT IS WHAT SHE SHOULD DO!


29 posted on 02/20/2008 12:32:57 PM PST by HD1200
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To: Lancey Howard
Thank God those days are gone forever.

If those days were truly over, J. S. McCain wouldn't be running away with the Republican nomination, Hildebeeste wouldn't be a Senator, and Barak Hussein would be utterly unknown.

30 posted on 02/20/2008 12:34:28 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: madison10

google cindy mccain and drugs


31 posted on 02/20/2008 12:38:20 PM PST by tioga (Beware: conservative with back to the wall. Proceed with extreme caution.)
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To: toddlintown
"scares me"

Some women just throw ashtrays at their hubbies. (smirk)

32 posted on 02/20/2008 12:41:50 PM PST by driftless2
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To: HD1200

A black gal called Air America this morning (yeah, I listen every now and then) on this topic. The host framed the pride line as not being what Ms. Obama really meant, but the black gal, to his dismay, said it’s exactly how she feels — no pride in America until now with Obama.


33 posted on 02/20/2008 12:58:15 PM PST by polymuser (Those who believe in something eventually prevail over those who believe in nothing.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

I agree. I have been proud of my country since I was old enough to know what a blessing it is to be born in America.

Anyone, who just realized what a blessing being an American is- is highly suspect to me.


34 posted on 02/20/2008 1:05:37 PM PST by Lumper20
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To: polymuser

Was that on Bill Press’s show? I think I heard that; I was actually trying to get thru to his show to play the “moderate democrat having had it with the far left antics of my party and voting mccain role” just to offset the liberals that call and say they are republicans voting for obama!


35 posted on 02/20/2008 1:36:48 PM PST by HD1200
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To: HD1200

Yes, it was. Press got incredulous with her. He learned a bit today.


36 posted on 02/20/2008 1:39:42 PM PST by polymuser (Those who believe in something eventually prevail over those who believe in nothing.)
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To: Lumper20
Anyone, who just realized what a blessing being an American is- is highly suspect to me.

It's getting worse with today's school kids & the anti-American bilge they're subjected to now.

37 posted on 02/20/2008 1:41:39 PM PST by polymuser (Those who believe in something eventually prevail over those who believe in nothing.)
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To: tioga

Well, google Rush Limbaugh and drugs

She may look weird, but so does John McCain.

Guess this election I’m voting for not becoming a TOTALLY socialistic country.


38 posted on 02/20/2008 1:49:27 PM PST by not2worry ( What goes around comes around!)
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To: not2worry

I will grit my teeth and vote McCain, but I won’t be singing Cindy’s praises like I did Laura’s.


39 posted on 02/20/2008 2:34:51 PM PST by tioga (Beware: conservative with back to the wall. Proceed with extreme caution.)
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To: Parmenio

Her statement is revealing of just how unAmerican Democrats are. I fear for our Nation if we end up with Mr. & Mrs. Obama in the White House. In 8 years we will all be learning Arabic and reading the Koran.


40 posted on 02/20/2008 2:44:38 PM PST by FFranco
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To: wardaddy

It’s hard to find an African American who isn’t mixed race.


41 posted on 02/20/2008 2:45:54 PM PST by FFranco
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To: org.whodat
And the little fact she would be a convicted druggie if juan had not illegally fixed it.

Yes, that little fact. Cindy stole the drugs from her own charity. 1994, if I remember correctly.
42 posted on 02/20/2008 4:59:16 PM PST by khnyny (Quid Est Veritas)
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To: newheart

Obama, Harold Ford Jr, and Colin Powell come to mind first.

Jesse Jackson is fairly mixed too.

Those are the only 4 I’ve ever seen touted or that have run for national office.

I find it ironic.

Course Obama claims he’s not the black candidate which is laughable.

That is precisely why he’s getting the votes he’s getting.

Blacks voting skin and liberal whites voting guilt or looking to feel morally superior to regular bigots (whom they see everywhere).

Like many freepers do when they play the race card. Wonder how many of those will vote for Obama when no one is looking. He’s right up their alley.


43 posted on 02/20/2008 6:19:10 PM PST by wardaddy (Michelle Obama should try Kenya, on for size.)
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To: FFranco
It’s hard to find an African American who isn’t mixed race.

Really?

How about this one?

seriously....down in the rural deep south, there are more pure African blacks than not...deep ebony or jet colored

44 posted on 02/20/2008 6:25:05 PM PST by wardaddy (Michelle Obama should try Kenya, on for size.)
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To: wardaddy

You may be right about why people are voting for him. But in a world where demographic and psychographic identity is continually analyzed and dissected for everything from dishwashing soap to presidential candidates none of that comes as much of a surprise.

But do we REALLY care what color a person is?


45 posted on 02/20/2008 7:10:17 PM PST by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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To: madison10
He did teach community activists to plunder taxpayer dollars by using taking advantage of their perceived victim status.
Has to count for something.
46 posted on 02/20/2008 7:30:21 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Guns don't kill people, gun free zones kill people)
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To: Kickass Conservative

He did teach community activists to plunder taxpayer dollars by taking advantage of their perceived victim status.
Has to count for something.

Oops. Fixed it.


47 posted on 02/20/2008 7:32:49 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Guns don't kill people, gun free zones kill people)
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To: digger48

She hasn’t said one thing about the US before the year 2007 that would make her proud to be a citizen of the greatest nation in the history of mankind that has placed her amongst the most privliged of the elite in this country.

I never thought that I would see a spouse of a presidential candidate who was more of a narcissistic, arrogant, hubristic, self-entitled, and maddening solipsist than Hilary Clinton. To the nation’s dismay, I think we have found her.


48 posted on 02/20/2008 7:36:42 PM PST by DMZFrank
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To: newheart
But do we REALLY care what color a person is?

the world sure does and the Democrast sure do.

Western whites are the only ones expected to be colorblind.

I'd be all for it but I'd have to be a sucka to fall for it yet.

49 posted on 02/22/2008 4:36:59 PM PST by wardaddy (Michelle Obama should try Kenya, on for size.)
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