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Don't Buy a Blu-Ray Disc Player Just Yet
Fox News ^ | 2/21/08

Posted on 02/21/2008 11:58:00 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat

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To: Recovering_Democrat

For the first time I saw the Picture in Picture feature. I loved it!

We were watching YouTube and there were new behind the scenes “Making of Hairspray” posts. They were taken from the HD disks.

When they showed black and white films of the making of the song, they ran the actual movie in a small box at the bottom. In this way, you could see the actors putting the scene together at the same time that scene from the movie was playing. It was facinating. Makes me want to buy one when Blu-Ray gets the PIP.

We have every edition of this movie, the Two disk special edition and the Walmart disk, yet this was something we have never seen before. I so want it!!!! If Blu-Ray were to get an internet connection, one of our special features disks sends exclusive pictures when put into a computer. I would love to see these on my plasma!

(and yes, if anyone is wondering, I did fast a day to get a day of Hairspray)


21 posted on 02/21/2008 1:54:14 PM PST by netmilsmom (Giving up "Hairspray" and the cast for Lent. Prayers appreciated!)
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To: BlueStateBlues
Has anyone seen a blu-ray player that plays both DVD formats and VHS too?

Whats the point? If you have any home VHS tapes, it's easy to get the hardware and software to convert it to digital video and burn them to DVD. For anything that was comercially released, get a new copy on DVD or Blu-ray. VHS has half the resolution of broadcast NTSC video, so its really not worthwhile to convert commercially available material from VHS to Blu-ray.

22 posted on 02/21/2008 2:39:06 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: Raymann

I still have lots of VHS’s of movies that are probably not on DVD or are hard to find. The foreign films from Europe are reaching towards the $40 range because of the sinking dollar. Haven’t seen a blu-ray disc as yet, am interested in the quality difference.

Wonder if 3-D discs will come out? Beuwolf in 3-D was amazing.


23 posted on 02/21/2008 2:40:56 PM PST by BlueStateBlues (Blue State for business, Red State at heart..)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Thanks for the advice, I’ve thought of getting a machine which will convert VHS to DVD. But the quality won’t change, and it would be time consuming, so I’d limit the number of films I’d transfer.


24 posted on 02/21/2008 2:44:17 PM PST by BlueStateBlues (Blue State for business, Red State at heart..)
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To: BlueStateBlues
Thanks for the advice, I’ve thought of getting a machine which will convert VHS to DVD. But the quality won’t change, and it would be time consuming, so I’d limit the number of films I’d transfer.

It's cheaper to get video capture hardware that connects an existing VHS or Beta deck to the USB2 or Firewire port of your computer than to get a stand alone VHS/DVD burner. While a VHS tape must be captured in real time, the setup is the only part requiring user intervention. Once you set up a transfer to your hard disk, you can use your computer for other tasks while the capture to MPEG-2 happens in the background.

25 posted on 02/21/2008 3:07:23 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: catbertz
I was an HD supporter, and I'm bummed that it lost. I think it was the more consumer friendly format, cheaper and feature ready within its first six months on the market. BR will take almost another year to be feature complete.

That consumer friendliness, I think, is why studios lined up behind Blu-Ray. Even when HD DVD standardized the triple-layer disc that holds more data than Blu-Ray, they kept moving to away from HD DVD. Why? HD DVD's encryption was cracked sooner--I think Blu-Ray hasn't even been cracked yet--and HD DVD had no region coding. HD DVD/DVD combo discs allowed people to buy a movie once for a small premium, and have it on both SD and HD formats. The HD DVD format corrected some problems that slowed the initial uptake of DVD; no region encoding encouraged import/exportation, and the combo discs meant that DVD owners could continue buying movies without worrying about obsolescence. These were very good things for consumers but bad things for the studios.

With Blu-Ray's win, it may be harder to back up your HD movies, and you will be forced to buy multiple copies if you want to watch your movie on both your HDTV and your "legacy" players (DVD player, computer, portable, etc.). It's a win for the content owners, and I salute them for that. I salute them with only one finger, but it's a salute nonetheless.

I refuse to buy any media that I can't perfectly copy for back-up and format shifting, just on principle, so I've just been ejected from the HD-buying class. Thanks a lot, Hollywood.

26 posted on 02/21/2008 3:22:49 PM PST by Caesar Soze
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To: swain_forkbeard

Is that the d@mn near 100.00 cable that we had to buy to get our Plasma tv to work right????


27 posted on 02/21/2008 4:26:42 PM PST by netmilsmom (Giving up "Hairspray" and the cast for Lent. Prayers appreciated!)
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To: tripitaka

This post above this is for you.


28 posted on 02/21/2008 4:27:54 PM PST by netmilsmom (Giving up "Hairspray" and the cast for Lent. Prayers appreciated!)
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To: swain_forkbeard

Sorry, post 27 was not for you but for tripitaka.


29 posted on 02/21/2008 4:29:25 PM PST by netmilsmom (Giving up "Hairspray" and the cast for Lent. Prayers appreciated!)
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To: Caesar Soze
I refuse to buy any media that I can't perfectly copy for back-up and format shifting, just on principle, so I've just been ejected from the HD-buying class. Thanks a lot, Hollywood.

AMEN to your entire post. A toast to the freedoms lost. Viva La Revolucion!

30 posted on 02/21/2008 4:35:52 PM PST by catbertz
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To: catbertz

I have both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray. Paid $799 for the HD-DVD and now a decent HD-DVD player can be bought for $99. Oh well, tis the price paid to ride the bleeding edge.

BTW, although the video quality is stellar, my $1000 Sony Blu-Ray player may be the clunkiest piece of electronics gear I’ve bought in the past 20 years. Takes 2-3 minutes just to boot up, another minute or two to load a movie, etc.

I am indeed glad to see the war ending.

MM


31 posted on 02/21/2008 4:37:38 PM PST by MississippiMan
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To: Caesar Soze

I miss the simplicity of VHS tapes.
Just put it in and hit play.
No waiting for stuff to load
or figuring out menus
or other human intervention needed.

They were great for the kids...
Just put it in and watch it - simple as pie.


32 posted on 02/21/2008 4:41:52 PM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Blu Ray will end up sucking because they’ll be internet-dependent devices that won’t play the movies you buy without phoning-home to verify the Digital Rights.


33 posted on 02/21/2008 4:45:45 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: GovernmentShrinker

My current DVD player plays dvds,cds, but more importantly to me, it plays SACDs and DVD-A which I hope any future Blu-Ray player will read and play too. Especially SACD.


34 posted on 02/21/2008 4:48:27 PM PST by MrLee (Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalyim!! God bless Eretz Israel.)
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To: swain_forkbeard

Yeah, I’ll concede that the BD disk format is superior to that of the HD-DVD, in terms of storage capacity. I don’t understand how a media format rushed to market before it was even fully complete and finalized could be considered superior to one that was, however. I guess Sony learned from MS getting the jump on them with the Xbox 360 over the PS 3. Can’t say I really care one way or the other - I don’t even watch a lot of movies, even on regular DVD.


35 posted on 02/21/2008 5:32:52 PM PST by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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To: BlueStateBlues

Oh I still have an 8 track player that works.


36 posted on 02/21/2008 7:36:39 PM PST by therut
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