[O Neill]

Just a bit of Devil's Advocate (hold the flames until Hitlery & Slick are gone for good)...

Does a 2nd Lieutenant remain a 2nd Lt even on his/her 3rd tour in Iraq? And isn't the Army having recruiting problems?

Could it have been a Captain who was recently promoted telling a war story from a previous tour?

Why haven't we captured bin Laden after 5 YEARS?! Especially when we did find Saddam in the Spider hole early on...(Whoopi Goldberg: 'Git out dat hole, Sad-damn')...

Are we REALLY fighting a war in Iraq or has it become more like a Police Action...door-to-door, keeping the peace-type thing?

Did Ronald Reagan know a lot of detail about military life, tactics, etc.? But didn't we in the military LOVE him as Commander In Chief? Why was that?

Obama was talking here about JUDGMENT...and his point may well resonate among a majority of Americans...

The Military Industrial complex will NEVER want Iraq to end...

Careers at stake!

Profits at stake!

Think about it...

[celtic gal]

In the Marine Corps, one is promoted based on time in grade, not the number of tours in country. Time in grade and fitness reports. Going from Second LT to First LT is nearly automatic unless the Lt steps on his sword..going from 1ST to Captain gets more competitive and going from Company Grade to the Field Grade Ranks ( Major through Colonel) becomes far more competitive..If an officer is selected below zone, that officer is considered selected ahead of contemporaries and has an unusually outstanding record.

[rlmorel]

OBL is room temperature, and it has zero to do with this issue anyway. Why did you bring it up?

War has many faces. Door-to-door fighting is one of them. Occupying pacified areas is another.

Ronald Reagan loved and respected the troops and they knew it. He got them modern arms,and more importantly, respect. Do you know how much of a military expert he was? He was apparently enough of one to understand the importance of having an effective one.

Nobody gives a RATS ASS about “judgement” in this thread.

This thread is about the propensity of liberals who lie about the military, make up stories about the military, slander the military, all the while knowing absolutely nothing about the military, detesting the military and wishing they could find ways to defund it and steer the money towards ludicrously inept social engineering programs that suck up money with no return on the investment.

Military Industrial Complex? Careers? Profits? What the HELL are you talking about, and how does it relate to the subject at hand?

What you insinuate isn’t Devil’s Advocacy, it’s Moronic Idiocy.