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To: DoughtyOne

But what’s our choice?

Obama or Clinton would be disasters that would take decades to undo - if ever (think Roosevelt’s new deal)

I’ll be voting for mccain, and then we’ll have to oppose him on certain issues like we did with bush on immigration and myers.


16 posted on 02/22/2008 3:56:19 PM PST by aquila48
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To: aquila48; DoughtyOne

You will not be able to oppose McCain with a Dem majority in both houses of Congress.

He and the Dems will work together as they have for the past 10 years.

All McCain has to do to save his own skin is move to the RAT party. He was thinking about doing that in the last few years.

Geesh, how bad have faux conservatives become.


19 posted on 02/22/2008 4:00:30 PM PST by dforest
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To: aquila48

We were very lucky on that immigration deal. If they wanted to play hardball, I think they could have gotten the job done. With the election looming, McCain wasn’t going to push it. Neither was Bush.

John in the White House will have the (R) Congress on his side. And if he should propose some pipe-dream to the democrat’s liking, it will go through IMO.

The dynamic of McCain being in there means that conservatism looses it’s voice for another four or eight years. How exactly do we sell conservatism if we don’t herald it? During McCain’s term the democrats will trash conservatism. The media will trash conservatism. And when the conservatives object to what McCain is doing, they will be refered to by him and the Republican party as whacked-out fringe wing-nuts. Following that do you think we’ll be able to get a conservative nominated to just about anything?

Not only will bad policy be implemented, there will be no positive press for us even from the ranks of the Republican party.

Obama and Hillary would be challenged by the right, conservatives appreciated. Turn it around and conservatism won’t get a positive thing said about it for a long time to come.

Folks will have to do what they have to do, and we’ll see how it plays out. In 2000 I said a Bush presidency could just about kill conservatism. Now look who the nominee is and tell me I was wrong.

Expect the nominee to be worse after McCain. It sure won’t be better.

Everything that McCain does that the media doesn’t like, it will be cast as something a conservative did. Is anyone going to want another?

I don’t think it’s possible to even think of and list the ways conservatism will be hurt, if McCain gets in.

I have said it before and I’ll say it again. If John McCain becomes president, conservatism will cease to be a movement, and will become only a theory.


28 posted on 02/22/2008 4:25:09 PM PST by DoughtyOne (We've got Tweedle Dee, Tweedle Dumb & Tweedle Dumber left. Name them in order. I dare ya.)
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