Starring HRC......
Posted on 02/22/2008 5:13:48 PM PST by Anti-Hillary
Texas Monthly's Evan Smith interviewed HRC today and they had an extended exchange about Florida and Michigan. Smith: "... The talk is that you agreed not to seat the delegation." HRC: "That’s not the case at all. I signed an agreement not to campaign in Michigan and Florida. Now, the DNC made the determination that they would not seat the delegates, but I was not party to that. I think it’s important for the DNC to ask itself, Is this really in the best interest of our eventual nominee? We do not want to be disenfranchising Michigan and Florida. We have to try to carry both of those states. I’d love to carry Texas, but it’s usually not in the electoral calculation for the Democratic nominee. Florida and Michigan are. Therefore, the people of those two states disregarded adamantly the DNC’s decision that they would not seat the delegates. They came out and voted. If they had been influenced by the DNC, despite the fact that there was very little campaigning, if any, they would have stayed home. But they wanted their voices heard. More than 2 million people came out. I mean, it was record turnout for a primary. Florida, in particular, is sensitive to being disenfranchised because of what happened to them in the last elections. I have said that I would ask my delegates to vote to seat." Smith: "So your intention is to press this issue?" HRC: "Yes, it is. Yes, it is. It’s in large measure because both the voters and elected officials in Michigan and Florida feel so strongly about this. Senator Bill Nelson, of Florida, early on in the process actually sued because he thinks it’s absurd on its face that 1.7 million Democrats who eventually voted would basically be disregarded."
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Personally, I hope not. I want to see the bloodbath in Denver.
This is going to be fun to watch.
NEVER count the klintons out..they will resort to whatever they have to to win..for them, it’s power..the party and country be damned..
IMHO there is no way she’d stay in if something wasn’t comin down the pike..I’m just waitin for the shoe to drop..
Starring HRC......
Hopefully, this will come down to the last superdelegate. And hopefully, the last superdelegate will be Dennis Kucinich.
I really don’t think she will quit regardless of what happens in the primaries. She is waiting for the LARRY SINCLAIR SCANDAL to hit the MSM fan.
Has there been any evidence to corroborate Sinclair’s claims? All I’ve seen are the transcripts of his videos — but without any evidence, I’m inclined to doubt his story (I haven’t followed it closely, though, so there may be more substance that I haven’t heard about).
Gotta agree with her
Why tell the Florida and Michigan voters they don’t count
They were not disenfranchised. They voted and the votes were counted. They were not given any weight by the Democratic National Committee, a private organization which has rules determined by members of the organization.
I’m not defending any side in this fiasco - I’ll be happy to sit back and consume popcorn as the Democrats struggle mightily with this one. What I cannot abide is the application of voting rights rhetoric to a situation where it does not belong. There are no Constitutional rights regarding the conduct of primary elections. End of story.
LOLLOLLOL
For who? NOBODY was on the ballot!
The hillary express is about to go off the tracks and plunge into the canyon. She is so desperate.
Did MI and FL lose all of their seats? So, it’s not only penalty (slashed into half) like in the case of Republicans? If that’s true, then, I think HRC has a case that Dim voters in those states were disenfranchised.
You’d think no. Hillary already won Michigan and Florida. She’s currently leading in the polls in Ohio and Pennsylvania. She’s already won 205 electoral votes worth of states to Obama’s 190 (if my math is right). If she wins Ohio and Pennsylvania, she’s up to 246. Vermont and RI put her up to 253. The math becomes tough after that, but she’s only 17 from the magic number.
If Hillary can win more electoral votes worth of states than Obama AND wins the recent key battleground states (OH, PA, FL and, to a lesser extent, MI) as well as the major Democratic strongholds (NY, CA, MA), the superdelegate choice is no longer so obvious.
Under the very plausible aforementioned scenario, I think the Clinton team could make a very compelling argument that even though Obama won more pledged delegates and got more total primary votes that Hillary should still get the most superdelegates. That argument will be made easier by the fact that if she wins Ohio and PA, she’ll have won 2 of the last 3 “major” primaries and thus will appear to have more momentum than she really does.
Long story short, if Obama wins Texas and Hillary wins Ohio, it clearly puts Obama in the stronger position, but it hardly leaves Hillary in a hopeless situation. Losing both, on the other hand...
the heck with jails, i want to see them filling the morgues.
ping
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