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To: Grimmy
Something that definitely needs to be taken care of, though.....

You're taking a page out of Caesar's Commentaries .... he took the same tough line with the Germans who'd passed the Rhine and gotten into Gaulish territory with their baggage trains (it was actually the beginning of the Germanic invasion/migration -- replayed 250 years later, and then 150 years again after that in 405 A.D. when they crossed the Rhine for good).

Caesar deployed against the Usipetes' and Tencteri's battle line which they presented when confronted, but he also sent a strong detachment around in a flanking move and attacked the German camp and its weak baggage guard. The Germans heard the uproar in their rear and broke their lines to rush back to protect their families, and that's when he fell on them and defeated them in detail, driving them into the river with great loss of life......and then the German tribes on the far bank whose territory they'd crossed previously finished the job. Those tribes weren't wiped out, btw -- they survived, and together with two other tribes amalgamated into a new supertribe that called itself the Franks. And thereby, as the storyteller said, hangs a tale.

The fight in Afghanistan is hard rock, and our guys up there definitely need some help. Bush and Gates's successors need to stop playing around and start recruiting for real, and bump up the Army and Marine Corps.

12 posted on 02/23/2008 2:30:03 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus
The fight in Afghanistan is hard rock, and our guys up there definitely need some help. Bush and Gates's successors need to stop playing around and start recruiting for real, and bump up the Army and Marine Corps.

AMEN

Gates keeps saying he'll make NATO step up and send the troops, equipment they committed too but never sent. He uses this as his rationale for not 'bumping up' = and NATO keeps thumbing it's collective nose at him.

Well, GATES, in the meantime, while you're playing politics, how about sending some helP - not take take the case that isn't and looks like won't be - but the case that IS...

15 posted on 02/23/2008 2:38:53 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: lentulusgracchus

If the Romans had had our level of ability to reach out and touch folk at a distance like we do, there’d have been no Franks and therefore, no Frenchmen today.

I blame the Romans for lacking in industrial motivation.

But, actually, I was thinking more along the lines of Ceasar at Alesia.

I was also considering the US and allied forces actions vs the “werewolf” operations in Germany after the fall of Berlin and the more effective methods of getting tribal scumbags to pay attention during the Philippine Insurrection.


17 posted on 02/23/2008 2:41:19 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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