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1 posted on 02/25/2008 5:08:30 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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Ping!


2 posted on 02/25/2008 5:09:13 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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That’s ok... McCain supports increasing US ethanol production, which will fix global warming, which will save us all!

Uhh, wait a minute...


3 posted on 02/25/2008 5:14:35 AM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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More than 70 percent of Nebraska corn crop this year could go to ethanol production.

Jesus. And this is with a republican in office.

Junk science scares the crap out of me.
4 posted on 02/25/2008 5:16:55 AM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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Won’t be long, now, before we’ll have to have family meetings to decide whether to spend our life savings on a gallon of gas or a loaf of bread......


5 posted on 02/25/2008 5:17:15 AM PST by Uncle Ike (Sometimes I sets and thinks, and sometimes I jus' sets.........)
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With a weak U.S. dollar and global demand so high, foreign buyers are outbidding domestic buyers for American grain, Hurt said.

Funny how that works: with a weak U.S. dollar and global demand so high, U.S. producers can't ship American grain quickly enough. Oh, heck, we're all gonna starve.

7 posted on 02/25/2008 5:20:37 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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—With a weak U.S. dollar and global demand so high,—

Duh! The answer is keep the grain at home; restrict exports. That will help drop the price of grain (and milk and eggs) at home. The ag lobby won’t like that, but tough darts.


8 posted on 02/25/2008 6:06:37 AM PST by paleorite
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Hey, I know. Let’s tax American workers and use the money to subsidize unprofitable ethanol plants, and then charge them more for food and energy, and tax the margin (of course)!


20 posted on 02/25/2008 6:31:51 AM PST by ichabod1 ("Self defense is not only our right, it is our duty." President Ronald Reagan)
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” Wheat prices have been near $10 a bushel, more than $6 a bushel higher. Cash prices for soybeans are about $13 a bushel, up more than $7 a bushel. Corn is pricing at almost $5 a bushel, an increase of greater than $3 a bushel.”

There is very little grain moving at these prices. If the farmers had any they would surely sell it, but I expect that everyone did as we did and sold the beans on the way up at $9/bushel.

With very few exceptions, ever since WWI, the agriculture problem has been one of overproduction. If the current high prices stick, production will increase and we will be “blessed” again with a excess of produce.


27 posted on 02/25/2008 6:46:22 AM PST by Western Phil
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Two solutions: (1) suspend ethanol mandates for a few months, let the corn go into feed rather than ethanol, and (2) any acreage we’re paying farmers NOT to grow on, tell them to grow stuff this year


32 posted on 02/25/2008 7:03:02 AM PST by PapaBear3625
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That’s what happens when you subsidize the use crops for fuel instead of food.


43 posted on 02/25/2008 7:27:21 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (New York Times Endorsed!!!)
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predictions, predictions, predictions

with failure to predict - recognize

that conditions are not static

to the extent that shortages produce higher prices, they also induce others, here and abroad, to become producers

in the long run there is no calamity waiting, only new producers and new market


57 posted on 02/25/2008 8:22:21 AM PST by Wuli
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Real Nice! The Revolution Will Not Be Televised.


63 posted on 02/25/2008 9:09:33 AM PST by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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It’s a good thing food isn’t part of the core inflation calculations, isn’t it?


66 posted on 02/25/2008 9:14:33 AM PST by null and void (The less you know, the better Hillary looks.)
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The cost of my dog food- cheap brand- not a yuppie brand- has risen 62.5 % in the past 3 years.


79 posted on 02/25/2008 10:12:26 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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My Nutri-grain waffles have gone up 10 cents two weeks ago, so has bread.

Yikes!


123 posted on 02/25/2008 12:23:08 PM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has been born. Ronald Reagan)
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More than 70 percent of Nebraska corn crop this year could go to ethanol production.

Yipes!

135 posted on 02/25/2008 1:51:13 PM PST by DungeonMaster (WELL I SPEAK LOUD, AND I CARRY A BIGGER STICK, AND I USE IT TOO!)
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seem to be too many geniuses in the congress and a president who likes to extend a hand to the left.


138 posted on 02/25/2008 2:01:33 PM PST by ripley
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Wheat prices always go up when the climate is colder.


144 posted on 02/25/2008 2:16:42 PM PST by JustDoItAlways
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I don’t know if this is it but I’ve always known there would come a day when America would have to pay the Piper when it comes to food and food security.

Even with what most conservatives called “Welfare for Farmers”, farmers have been retiring with no-one to take their place, going broke or just quitting before they went broke.

Even if we stop the corn for ethanol and take some farms out of CRP we are going to have shortages. Where are we going to find the farmers to farm the land? I don’t think there is any way to train young people to farm much less get them the financing to do it.

But even without shortages food prices are rising if only because the middlemen are paying higher fuel costs.


163 posted on 02/25/2008 6:59:28 PM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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Farmers can’t win can they? If they are busting their arses and collecting the pittance you all call “welfare” while losing their butts, everyone hates them, but just let reality hit the common man and the farmer see some hope down the road and everybody starts whining. Americans haven’t paid realistic prices for food and fiber for a long time.


164 posted on 02/25/2008 7:07:26 PM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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