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And the Oscar for most depressing . . .
Jewish World Review ^ | Feb. 25, 2008 | Mitch Albom

Posted on 02/25/2008 12:20:00 PM PST by Caleb1411

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To: najida

However, if everyone you care about is dead at the end....IT IS BRILLIANT! /sarc....


Shakespeare tried that once. The version with Hamlet settling down and going back to grad school didn’t test well. Skewed too old in the demographic.


101 posted on 02/25/2008 1:10:49 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: durasell
rent The Notebook

My wife did. I tried to watch it all the way through - but it put me in a diabetic coma.

But seriously, the young actors didn't really have much to work with - the real challenging work was in the older actors' half of the script.

Gosling really shines in The Believer - a psychologically complex part.

102 posted on 02/25/2008 1:10:54 PM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: what's up
No Country was excellent until they killed off Josh Brolin.

Uh, please lead such comments with "SPOILER ALERT!" I was going to watch that film tonight.

103 posted on 02/25/2008 1:11:15 PM PST by montag813
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To: wideawake

The old pros stole The Notebook. I imagine James Garner walking off the set yelling, In ya face!” to the young kid.


104 posted on 02/25/2008 1:12:42 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I know what you are saying with regard to the views the left and the right (christians for the sake of the arguement), but I think I’d adjust what your conclusion was a bit.

You’ll never see a liberal get much more exercised, than when they reference the ‘white bread’ Ozzie and Harriet, Father Knows Best programs of the 50s and 60s. This presentation of life makes their skin crawl.

Yes, the right does believe that man is flawed, but it also chooses to see the best in man. We herald what is best in man and denigrate that which is worst.

The left heralds that which is worst about man, and downplays that which is best.

The movies that are produced today are great in their eyes for the very reason they do depict the worst of society. To them, that is real life.

A conservative would show uplifting things, or even bad things that had good endings. The left would show you terrible endings, because you need to go out there and fix it. Those evil oil barons...

IMO, movies reinforce what is good about us. It’s hard to put into terms that don’t sound as if you want propagandist swill from our side as well, but I think you know what I mean. If a person commits a bad act, they are caught and that evil is met with a just reward. If a person is good, then that good is shown in a manner that encourages good. If a person makes an achievement, that achievement is heralded and used to inspire others. If there is failure, it is viewed with empathy, that sometimes bad things do happen to good people, but not that there is no hope short of Carl Marx.

The left seems hell bent on definining down evil. Villians are shown to be both good and bad now, unless of course they are evil capitalists, or conservatives. Morality is so yesterday’s news...

Well that’s more or less my take on it.

In answer to why they like to show people who are messed up, probably because they want messed up people to think they are normal. And who’s your daddy? Why we’re your daddy (nanny state). Why show people in hopeless no happy ending situations, because we live in a hopeless no happy ending society. And who’s your daddy? Why we’re your daddy (nanny state).

I don’t know more than that. I still think the left truly sees the world in helpless hopeless terms, unless there is a totalitarian government in charge. They just think they would be safer under such a thing. Wow.


105 posted on 02/25/2008 1:12:57 PM PST by DoughtyOne (We've got Tweedle Dee, Tweedle Dumb & Tweedle Dumber left. Name them in order. I dare ya.)
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To: wideawake

‘The Believer’ wa a great performance by Gosling trapped in a half baked concept masquerading as a film. Did they have to call the Neo Nazis Curtis Zampf and Lina Moebius? If you want to be taken seriously you don’t use the Ian Flemming Book of Character Names.


106 posted on 02/25/2008 1:14:14 PM PST by Borges
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To: max americana

Thanks for the report. My wife and I have been married for 13 years now. When we were first married, we used to go see movies all the time. We’d probably see 18 to 24 movies a year.

Now we see one or two movies a year. I do pick up previously views DVDs just to say in the loop, but it’s amazing how bad the movies have become. Some of these actors are the most shallow people on the face of planet earth. Despite this, the media goes to them to get the answers to life’s problems.

I am so repulsed by the ‘Entertainment Tonight’ types of programs that I wretch at the though of being forced to watch.


107 posted on 02/25/2008 1:16:56 PM PST by DoughtyOne (We've got Tweedle Dee, Tweedle Dumb & Tweedle Dumber left. Name them in order. I dare ya.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Good comments.


108 posted on 02/25/2008 1:17:09 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: DoughtyOne

Have you ever seen any of Paul Thomas Anderson’s films? He made There Will Be Blood. He seems to have a strong Judeo-Christian theme going about forgiveness and redemption. It was there in Boogie, Nights, Magnolia and is TWBB.


109 posted on 02/25/2008 1:18:42 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges
I’m convinced that the people who called ‘Million Dollar Baby’ ‘high tragedy’ had actually never seen a movie before.

Heh.

That movie used every possible narrative device in the most ham-handed possible way.

110 posted on 02/25/2008 1:19:31 PM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Texas Federalist
The movie did not transform a novel into a left wing political vehicle. Upton Sinclair was an avowed socialist who himself admitted that he wrote the novel Oil! only to portray capitalism (through Day’s character) and religion (through Dano’s) character as evil. If anything, the movie toned down these societal references.

Ironically, when Sinclair ran for governor of California in the Thirties it was poor rural whites from Oklahoma (the "Okies") he was counting on to vote him in. Yes folks, once upon a time there really was a "redneck left" (Woody Guthrie, anyone?). Nowadays if a poor rural white Okie voted for a Socialist Party candidate the candidate would reject the vote!

111 posted on 02/25/2008 1:20:15 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator ('Elleh hadevarim 'asher-tzivvah HaShem la`asot 'otam.)
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To: redstateconfidential

I think they should have Clooney do a movie about Clooney. At least that way he would have a chance at getting the part right.


112 posted on 02/25/2008 1:22:06 PM PST by Soliton
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To: Zionist Conspirator

The Redneck left lasted for a while. The Dixiecrats and so forth. Adalai Stevenson and finally JFK and LBJ drove them away.


113 posted on 02/25/2008 1:22:26 PM PST by Borges
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To: DoughtyOne

>>I am so repulsed by the ‘Entertainment Tonight’ types of programs that I wretch at the though of being forced to watch.<<

I’m single with a GF and actually live 5 blocks away from the Kodak Theater, belive it or not...and I didn;t care much about it except for the traffic.

I actually feel for the families who have to endure the movies of today, except for films such as Ratatouille etc.

There will be Blood’ is just a movie to watch IF you have nothing else to watch. Juno was exceptionally great and recommended.

And yes, I couldn;t care less about ET, or TMZ...they are nothing to me.


114 posted on 02/25/2008 1:22:32 PM PST by max americana
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To: Borges
‘The Believer’ wa a great performance by Gosling trapped in a half baked concept masquerading as a film.

I agree. The plot and narrative were subpar at best, but the characterizations and theological/philosophical references were excellent.

Also, it catered heavily to my admitted weakness for NYC location shooting.

He assaulted that yeshiva student right under the 33rd Street/Rawson station of the 7 line!

115 posted on 02/25/2008 1:23:05 PM PST by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Borges

I may have seen Boogie Nights on cable. I really do try to see what’s out there. I don’t remember it, so basicly it’s a no.

I’ll try to check out some of his work. I apprecaite the comments.


116 posted on 02/25/2008 1:23:07 PM PST by DoughtyOne (We've got Tweedle Dee, Tweedle Dumb & Tweedle Dumber left. Name them in order. I dare ya.)
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To: wideawake

My favorite part was when the Clint Eastwood character says that the Swank character has great footwork and then cuts to...her feet.


117 posted on 02/25/2008 1:23:26 PM PST by Borges
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To: i_dont_chat

Coen brothers.


118 posted on 02/25/2008 1:24:15 PM PST by clintonh8r (An Obamanation would be an abomination.)
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To: what's up

I disagree.

For all the other trash, it was perfectly worthy. Fit right in!

Sadly, hollywierd’s standards have been quite off over the past few years.


119 posted on 02/25/2008 1:24:28 PM PST by tpanther
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To: tpanther

What other trash? TWWB, NCFOM, Juno were all solid.


120 posted on 02/25/2008 1:25:05 PM PST by Borges
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