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Too much pleasure, too few children
St. Paul Pioneer Press ^ | 02/22/2008 | ROD DREHER

Posted on 02/25/2008 1:13:10 PM PST by Caleb1411

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To: Caleb1411

I think in America we are having a boom. We just had three people out of 50 in my command have children this week. My wife is due end of May with child number 4. I truly believe at least in my experience that 3 kids is the new 2 kids. lol.


141 posted on 02/26/2008 6:53:05 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Groovy. Now I speak Spanish to wild bunnies before eating them. It seems to calm them down.

‘Twas a crazy few months, one could say...

How about our beloved D.J.? I forgot her FR ID.

(Yours is unforgettable.)


142 posted on 02/26/2008 6:54:28 AM PST by Enosh (†)
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To: Caleb1411

I did not come here to breed.


143 posted on 02/26/2008 6:55:57 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Tax-chick

“agreeance”??

;-)


144 posted on 02/26/2008 6:56:06 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Zhang Fei
... I think the real problem is that in non-agrarian societies where parents are expect to pay their childrens’ way through college, kids are an economic liability rather than an asset. In fact, the family-orientedness of East Asian societies makes this worse - for as long as they remain single, the children continue to leech off their parents after they grow to adulthood instead of moving out and living on their own.

That's restating what my comment is, better than I could.

You need to have a mechanism in place to strongly encourage responsible behavior by the children, or to at the extreme expel them from the group (like saying "they'll be no bums in this family" before kicking them out the door and writing them out of your will, etc.). Or else the children who chose to lay around and not work but still take up food and housing and medical and other expenses will suck the group (family) assets dry at the cost of the parents / other siblings...

145 posted on 02/26/2008 6:56:07 AM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (Let's Roll...)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

I understand limitations and losses (very personally) and everybody lives within their own. Sounds like avoiding procreation is a wise choice on your part. Best wishes to you and your husband.


146 posted on 02/26/2008 6:58:05 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Cordially.)
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To: Enosh
Glad to hear you are doing well.

DJ? You mean trussell?

Unforgettable....ha ha ha, thanks.

147 posted on 02/26/2008 7:02:33 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.../ Get well Soon John Force!!!)
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To: scory
...I know quite a few people who have 4 or more children. These families are indeed a pretty sight. They are, virtually without exception, composed of loving, intelligent, active people. They also tend to be well-educated. They are also all committed Christians of one sort or another. They have struggles and challenges in their lives just like everyone else. But they tend overwhelmingly to strive to support and nurture one another even in the face of severe challenges. These tend to be quiet people. To me they are inspiring. They give me real hope for the future in the face of so much of the lunacy that is so rampant today.

Thanks for the encouraging news.

How have they overcome the following two main problems (as I see it) to getting married and having families:

1. Easy divorce where the husband is automatically assumed to be at fault and is severely economically punished by the legal system at the whim of the woman.

and

2. Kids who turn out to be bums (too lazy to work around the house or get a job, too irresponsible to hold a job, drink alcohol, smoke dope, get pregnant out of wedlock to guys who can't support them, etc. etc.).

148 posted on 02/26/2008 7:05:01 AM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (Let's Roll...)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

“This is one of the sillier articles I’ve read recently”

Are you kidding? The author said that our society needs to have more children and strong families or it will go out of business. You disagree with that?

Do you happen to know anything about demographic modeling? Do you know that we have to produce 2.1 children to just replace ourselves?


149 posted on 02/26/2008 7:06:55 AM PST by cowtowney
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick; trussell

Trussell, bingo!

Time to go frighten some more bunnies and fish. Later y’all.


150 posted on 02/26/2008 7:07:03 AM PST by Enosh (†)
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To: Retired Greyhound

“I am not bringing a child into this here world. Plus I am selfish and lazy and like kids only marginally.”

Thanks goodness YOU are not reproducing.


151 posted on 02/26/2008 7:09:24 AM PST by cowtowney
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Thank you.


152 posted on 02/26/2008 7:11:06 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.../ Get well Soon John Force!!!)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
And that's right and proper. But a lack of civilization makes the protection infinitely harder. Then there's the millions of other ladies that don't have a big, tattooed, long haired, biker.

153 posted on 02/26/2008 7:11:43 AM PST by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Enosh

Hey......Just thinking about you.


154 posted on 02/26/2008 7:12:33 AM PST by Shyla
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To: TR Jeffersonian

ISI ping


155 posted on 02/26/2008 7:13:57 AM PST by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: Sherman Logan

Also, it should be noted that the main reason Egypt and Syria were lost to the Arabs was a religious schism — the Monophysite population of those provinces were so bitterly opposed to Imperial attempts to enforce orthodoxy that they actually welcomed the Arabs as liberators (which they were, in a way — they let people practice Monophysite Christianity if they paid the dhimmi tax; the Imperials wouldn’t relent in attempting to stamp it out under any conditions).


156 posted on 02/26/2008 7:17:00 AM PST by steve-b (Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense. --RAH)
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To: sitetest

Right. You and I, for example, are often in agreeance :-). (I’ll try using this in Scrabble, if an opportunity arises!)


157 posted on 02/26/2008 7:31:33 AM PST by Tax-chick (If there's a bustle in your hedgerow, don't shoot! It might be a lemur!)
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To: Screaming_Gerbil
some children turn out to be bums

That's true. It's my observation that most large families have one child who turns out to be a total goof. I have suspicions about which one of mine is the most likely, but I'm keeping them to myself :-).

158 posted on 02/26/2008 7:35:08 AM PST by Tax-chick (If there's a bustle in your hedgerow, don't shoot! It might be a lemur!)
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To: AZLiberty

My best friend from Jr high through college was from a family of 15, 2 girls and 13 boys. They lived in a big old brick 4 square house with 4 bedrooms on the second floor and a huge arttic with dormer windows. The older boys shared one huge room in the attic. The younger boys all wanted to be up there with the big guys!
The birth order was 2 boys, 2 girls then all the rest boys. No multi births, all singles.
People used to ask them are you Catholic? The parents always replied no, we just like children.


159 posted on 02/26/2008 7:39:11 AM PST by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: Tax-chick
Dear Tax-chick,

It’s a good thing you won’t be trying this in Scrabble playing me. I don’t think any of my dictionaries have an entry for “agreeance.”

LOL.


sitetest

160 posted on 02/26/2008 7:40:08 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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