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Wow - This guy’s a REAL tiger! I’ll bet he plays hardball with Iran and enemy heads of state.

Yes, he is and he will.

Robert E. Lee was a fierce warrior on the battlefield but he was still a gentleman off of the battlefield.

There is a difference between being a warrior and being an insulting jerk.

It takes courage to be a warrior. All it takes is a microphone and your own talk show to be an isulting jerk.

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"I understand the polls show only 18 percent of the American people support my position. But I have to do what's right, what I believe is right and what my experience and knowledge and background tells me is the right thing to do in order to save this situation in Iraq ... In war, my dear friends, there's no such thing as compromise. You either win or you lose." - Sen. John McCain's reaction to the Iraq Study Group Report, 2006

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In March 1968, McCain was put into solitary confinement, where he would remain for two years.[52] In July 1968, McCain's father was named Commander-in-Chief, Pacific Command (CINCPAC), stationed in Honolulu and commander of all U.S. forces in the Vietnam theater.[5] McCain was immediately offered a chance to return home early:[47] the North Vietnamese wanted a worldwide propaganda coup by appearing merciful, and also wanted to show other POWs that elites like McCain were willing to be treated preferentially.[52] McCain turned down the offer of repatriation, due to the Code of Conduct principle of "first in, first out": he would only accept the offer if every man taken in before him was released as well.[60] McCain's refusal to be released was even remarked upon by North Vietnamese senior negotiator Le Duc Tho to U.S. envoy Averell Harriman during the ongoing Paris Peace Talks.[61] In August of 1968, a program of vigorous torture methods began on McCain,

On Christmas Eve 1968, a church service for the POWs was staged for photographers and film cameras; McCain defied North Vietnamese instructions to be quiet, speaking out details of his treatment then shouting "Fu-u-u-u-ck you, you son of a bitch!" and giving the finger whenever a camera was pointed at him.[69] McCain refused to meet with various anti-war peace groups coming to Hanoi, such as those led by David Dellinger, Tom Hayden, and Rennie Davis, not wanting to give either them or the North Vietnamese a propaganda victory based on his connection to his father.[52]

McCain was finally released from captivity on March 15, 1973,[74] having been a POW for almost an extra five years due to his refusal to accept the out-of-sequence repatriation offer.[75]

There is a difference between being a warrior and being an insulting jerk.

Sorry, but McCain IS an insulting jerk to just about anyone who doesn’t agree with him, including fellow Senators who have to put up with his obscenity laced screaming retorts on the Senate floor itself.

And do McCain a favor and stop with the endless re-parading of his service in Vietnam.
I got pretty tired of hearing how Kerry served in Vietnam - and got 3 medals, don’t you know - and this is little different...

Of course McCain's service was infinitely more real than John Kerry's, but it is also telling how close the two are when Kerry himself explores the possibility of the two running together.

McCain was immediately offered a chance to return home early: the North Vietnamese wanted a worldwide propaganda coup by appearing merciful, and also wanted to show other POWs that elites like McCain were willing to be treated preferentially.McCain turned down the offer of repatriation, due to the Code of Conduct principle of "first in, first out": he would only accept the offer if every man taken in before him was released as well.

I have to call bull$hit on this one. During my Navy career I was a Brig Warden at one point. Stop for a second and imagine what would have happened if one of my prisoners declined to be released after three days of bread and water! Prisoners do NOT have the option of saying "No" to a release order. They could have easily put him on an airplane to a country which was not a party to the conflict.

What amazes me is that there are so many of the general public who don't think this kind of statement through....talk about naive. Maybe I shouldn't be surprised. After all, the liberals don't think there's anything wrong with homosexuality, but stop and think about the mechanics of what they're talking about.