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Video shows Gilbert bus driver, student in physical fight
ABC15 ^ | 2/25/2008 | Nicole Beyer

Posted on 02/26/2008 2:19:42 PM PST by freedomwarrior998

Surveillance footage from a Gilbert school bus shows the driver and a 15-year-old student physically confronting one another on February 15th.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: brat; bus; driver; schoolbus; spoiled
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Here is a youtube link to the video in question.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0NvWukOvZs0&feature=related

The bratty, spoiled rotten little High School teen is the one who should be punished IMO. It's episodes like this that prove why we are failing as a nation.

The upcoming generation has no respect for rules, law, or elders. They think that THEY are the center of the universe.

This absolutely disgusts me.

1 posted on 02/26/2008 2:19:47 PM PST by freedomwarrior998
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To: freedomwarrior998

It’s what to expect from Jerry Springer Generation. Mouth and attitude.


2 posted on 02/26/2008 2:22:29 PM PST by OB1kNOb (Maverick conservative without a political party.)
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To: freedomwarrior998

Everyone involved in that was behaving atrociously. I have no sympathy for any of them...


3 posted on 02/26/2008 2:26:20 PM PST by Hazzardgate
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To: Hazzardgate

Yep, I agree...Of course the Bus driver being in authority should have handled the situation better and should never have laid hands on that girl.


4 posted on 02/26/2008 2:31:50 PM PST by hope (hope with no vision...Yeah, that's a winning ticket.)
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bfl


5 posted on 02/26/2008 2:33:40 PM PST by Titan Magroyne ("Shorn, dumb and bleating is no way to go through life, son." Yeah, close enough.)
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To: hope
"Yep, I agree...Of course the Bus driver being in authority should have handled the situation better and should never have laid hands on that girl."

The little brat refused to respond to the bus driver. Notice how many little self indulgent snots were there trying to drum up more trouble and playing like little martyrs.

at least another student came forward to ask if the bus driver was okay.

One out of a whole busload!

6 posted on 02/26/2008 2:37:29 PM PST by FixitGuy (By their fruits shall ye know them!)
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To: freedomwarrior998

The Bratty, Spoiled kid was brought up by an IDIOT MOTHER!!! Used to be that parents would punish their kids TWICE as bad as the school did,,,not anymore....I smell a LAWSUIT!


7 posted on 02/26/2008 2:39:26 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

You got that right! My father was the school’s attorney and the school principal had free reign when it came to punishing me. I also knew that what ever the principal did to me was nothing compared to when I got home in front of my parents. If anything, my old man would have sued the school for not being harsh enough. No kidding.


8 posted on 02/26/2008 2:46:55 PM PST by cornfedcowboy
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To: hope
Bus driver being in authority

That is one of the problems, authority is a thing of the past. Students now have as much if no more authority than teachers and/or bus drivers.

9 posted on 02/26/2008 2:47:32 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: FixitGuy
Yeah, I know.

IMO the driver should have called this in immediately as a threat to the rest of the kids with her disruption to the safe delivery of the other students. I cannot imagine the stress these drivers have to deal with today. If this were a commercial airline she would have been arrested.

10 posted on 02/26/2008 2:53:41 PM PST by hope (hope with no vision...Yeah, that's a winning ticket.)
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To: cornfedcowboy

Your school had an ATTORNEY??? You must be YOUNG!! I went to a two-Room Catholic school...one nun for each 4 grades.


11 posted on 02/26/2008 2:55:56 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Robert DeLong

I live in this district and generally the schools really hammer into these kids about zero tolerance. Somebody dropped the ball.


12 posted on 02/26/2008 2:57:09 PM PST by hope (hope with no vision...Yeah, that's a winning ticket.)
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To: freedomwarrior998
The upcoming generation has no respect for rules, law, or elders.

You got that right. If I had smarted off to an adult when I was a kid, I would've been in SO much trouble. Now kids talk to adults with utter contempt. We had a generation of kids who grew up with essentially zero discipline. Now they're grown and having kids of their own.

This and myriad other manifestations of the rot in our society are actually a thousand times more disturbing and more important than who sits in the White House. Our politicians more or less reflect those who elect them.

MM (in TX)

13 posted on 02/26/2008 2:57:35 PM PST by MississippiMan
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To: freedomwarrior998
Is this the wonderful socialization that homeschoolers are missing?
14 posted on 02/26/2008 3:04:48 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: freedomwarrior998

I remember some kids acting up on our bus once. Years ago mind you, last century. The driver just pulled to the side and shut off the engine. He said something like “ I have all day boys.” We got home a little late, but quiet.


15 posted on 02/26/2008 3:08:41 PM PST by doodad
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To: freedomwarrior998

What was the bus driver going to do? If she let her off and something happened.... I was amazed how well she kept the other kids sitting down and calm all thru this.


16 posted on 02/26/2008 3:08:55 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: cornfedcowboy
.......I also knew that what ever the principal did to me was nothing compared to when I got home in front of my parents. If anything, my old man would have sued the school for not being harsh enough......

Ditto

17 posted on 02/26/2008 3:10:36 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: doodad

The mom is a jerk.


18 posted on 02/26/2008 3:11:58 PM PST by doodad
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To: FixitGuy

The one student who flew out of her seat to support the driver was the driver’s own daughter.

As I understand the story, the initiating brat demanded to be let off the bus where she wanted to be let off, not at her appointed stop. In our school district that is strictly forbidden.

It’s easy for us to say what we’d have done in the driver’s circumstances, but she was driving a full school bus, trying to keep them safe on the road. She shouldn’t have to deal with any given passenger’s whims and bad temper as well.

I don’t wonder why our school district is short of drivers, and they make very good money and have the benefits of other school employees. In fact, our starting drivers can earn more than a starting teacher.


19 posted on 02/26/2008 3:12:10 PM PST by EDINVA (Proud American for 23,062 days.... and counting!)
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To: FixitGuy

The fight seemed to start when she got phsical with the driver and her daughter jumped in to defend her. It says a lot that the girl was able to sit there that long, listening to her.


20 posted on 02/26/2008 3:12:41 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: freedomwarrior998

The inevitable effect of socialist education. What is amazing is that it actually worked as well as it did for as long as it did, not that it is failing now. State sponsored education was always a bad idea. We are only now realizing how bad.


21 posted on 02/26/2008 3:14:21 PM PST by monday
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To: EDINVA

Did you hear her mumble something like why couldn’t I get any help. It wasn’t that long but I guess it seemed like a long time to her. She’ll probably quit. Can you imagine how this girl would have acted if she hadn’t known she was on camera?


22 posted on 02/26/2008 3:15:07 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Hazzardgate

I disagree. No one is responsible for this girl’s bad behavior but her. No excuses.


23 posted on 02/26/2008 3:17:17 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

The buses are equipped with 2-way radio, she probably wondered why she wasn’t getting help from the transportation office ... tho that would rarely get there fast enough.

I did see an interview with the initiating girl’s mother .. she should be brought in as well for having raised a kid like that. But she was HORRIFIED at how poorly her little darling was treated. Probably looking to sue the school.


25 posted on 02/26/2008 3:19:29 PM PST by EDINVA (Proud American for 23,062 days.... and counting!)
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To: hope

Sometimes you just cannot protect or defend yourself without physical contact. It would be like a police officer trying to handcuff someone without touching them.


26 posted on 02/26/2008 3:22:47 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Morgana

Well I think the girl shoved it in her face and demanded she talk to her momma.


27 posted on 02/26/2008 3:24:25 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: freedomwarrior998
Awww.... Poor little drama queen decided she wanted to start trouble and by doing so endangered every one of the lives on that bus.

Simple answer, put cages on the buses and put these little animals in them as long as the bus is in motion. You want to behave like a rabid little beast, you should be treated like one.

A bus driver should be there to drive, not pacify a whiny little drama queen who is dead set on getting her way.

28 posted on 02/26/2008 3:26:12 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: EDINVA

She knew the lingo didn’t she? You punched me. You touched my boobs. I’m going to sue you.....


29 posted on 02/26/2008 3:27:37 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

You think this is real? I wonder how the video got out


30 posted on 02/26/2008 3:28:52 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: EDINVA

I think the expression on the girls face, when the daughter jumped in, tells us that the bus driver wasn’t hurting her or a threat. She was not expecting that and her face showed it. She knew she was suddenly about to get her butt kicked.


31 posted on 02/26/2008 3:35:24 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Morgana

“The bus driver’s daughter should not have got involved either way. It only got her in trouble with the law now, and it shows that the bus driver and daughter are tag team trouble makers.”

What did your mom ever do to you to think that a daughter jumping in to protect her mother is a “troublemaker”?


34 posted on 02/26/2008 3:41:57 PM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (Global warming is the new Marxism.)
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To: Morgana
That all you saw? Does everything have to be a conspiracy? It doesn’t matter why the driver took the phone. She is the adult. She is the authority. If she sees need to take something then kids should hand it over. I used to get stuff taken away all the time. Most of the time I got it back at the end of the day. I never once cursed , threatened or hit the teacher though. I knew better. My parents would have whipped my butt and made me apologize.
35 posted on 02/26/2008 3:43:09 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Morgana

How old are you?


36 posted on 02/26/2008 3:44:10 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

And you don’t?


37 posted on 02/26/2008 3:46:59 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: freedomwarrior998

That’s one disturbing video.

What I see is a bunch of spoiled little girls, pretending that they’re adults. In my view, the bus driver should be given a medal, and every student who refused to accept her authority be banned from riding the bus.

I admit, I don’t know the rules, but I presume that the driver CAN’T just let a student off at their demand, since they’re responsible for that student’s safety. It also doesn’t seem to have gotten physical until the student tried to get into the driver’s area - probably just to get her phone... but who knows? She could have hit something to open the doors, or take off the brake... I can see the driver justifiably using force to keep her out of that area.

Perhaps the driver could have offered to give the girl her phone back, if she would simply sit down, shut up, and wait for someone else to arrive, but with the attitude the teenager was projecting, I somehow doubt this would have been acceptable.

Just sad. Sad that everyone just sat there while things spiraled out of control. Sad that none of her other students told the disrupting student to sit down and shut up. Sad that the driver should be suspended and facing legal action.


38 posted on 02/26/2008 3:47:39 PM PST by Pravious
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To: Hazzardgate
"Everyone involved ... behaving atrociously"

That's not accurate, and nor helpful.

The student was in the aisle and non-compliant with the direct command of the bus driver. The student was defiant, loud and disrespectful. Since the bus driver is responsible for the safety of all the students on the bus, plus for the safe operation of a motor vehicle -- the student's behavior endangered ALL on the bus and also on the highway. One could argue that the bus driver had the *duty* to have the student restrained by whatever force necessary from that point that the student's defiance and over-the-top disrespect was established -- which is in the first few minutes of that incident.

The student then raises her had quickly as if to hit the bus driver. That is assault.

The driver should never have been charged. It is actually almost heroic that she was able to keep all students safe until police arrive. The defiant girl should be charged with multiple counts and expelled.

39 posted on 02/26/2008 3:51:48 PM PST by bvw
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

It looks very real. How does this stuff get on the net though?


40 posted on 02/26/2008 3:52:50 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Morgana

The daughter’s defense of the driver was quick and effective. She is a hero. She should be commended by the police and school.


41 posted on 02/26/2008 3:54:02 PM PST by bvw
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To: freedomwarrior998
And, of course, the beginning of the altercation is carefully not shown, so we don't know why the driver pulled over "for safety," nor do we know what the student did to earn the driver's bad opinion of her. All we have is an inflammatory video of the physical altercation itself ... which is guaranteed to inflame without informing.

F***ing reporters....

43 posted on 02/26/2008 3:55:56 PM PST by r9etb
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How old are you?

Let me know if you get an answer. Would be very interesting.

44 posted on 02/26/2008 3:56:49 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: wintertime
Is this the wonderful socialization that homeschoolers are missing?

That's all right -- some homeschoolers are clearly getting a graduate course in smug self-righteousness, which more than makes up for it.

46 posted on 02/26/2008 3:58:47 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Pravious

No I think it was good that the driver told the kids to stay sitting and stay calm. They all did so, except these two. They only got up when the fight started and it was really between the two girls. Remembering back to jr high though, when a fight broke out, telling kids to get back was like hearding cats. We used to hear “fight” and would run across the play ground to watch.


47 posted on 02/26/2008 3:58:48 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: r9etb
I homeschooled. You can still see the poor plaster repair where one of my sons shoved the other during a fight.
49 posted on 02/26/2008 4:03:23 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Morgana
The police aren't helping anyone with that charge. Idiocy.

Hopefully the DA will be a sensible adult and see the consequences of charging the heroes as if they are the thuggish brats. The brats really endangered the safety of all on that bus, and to charge the driver and the driver's daughter will allow or encourage such misbehavior.

The police seem to have endangered nit just the students in that district but in ALL districts with these atrocious charges.

Once again, the daughter did the RIGHT thing! Hooray for her!

50 posted on 02/26/2008 4:08:09 PM PST by bvw
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