McCain Retools Immigration Stance

Associated Press ^ | February 27, 2008 | JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS

[calcowgirl]

WASHINGTON (AP) — John McCain faces a dilemma on immigration as he works to persuade conservatives he's tough enough on the issue without erasing his historic appeal to Hispanic voters.

Once a crusader for offering the nation's roughly 12 million undocumented immigrants a way to get legal status, McCain now says his first priority is fortifying U.S. borders.

The metamorphosis reflects McCain's intensifying effort to consolidate his support among conservatives, who deride the Arizona senator's past proposals on immigration as offering amnesty to lawbreakers, and bitterly resent his work with Democrats, including Sen. Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts, on the issue.

(snip)

Listen to McCain's speeches or look on his campaign web site now, and there's little mention of the fight to give illegal immigrants a way to stay in the U.S. lawfully. He instead emphasizes border security — the catch phrase of conservatives who scorned his earlier proposals.

It's a difference of emphasis, not a change in stance, Republican strategists say.

"He's in an excellent place with conservatives who are concerned about immigration, because his position — that he'll secure the border first and have that security certified by the border-state governors, and then we'll go back and deal with the 12 million — seems to have satisfied most people," said Charlie Black, a McCain adviser.

"He says, 'Look, we got the message — the American people do not trust us when we say we'll secure the border,'" Black added.

[TexasNative2000]

"He says, 'Look, we got the message — the American people do not trust us when we say we'll secure the border,'" Black added.

We also do not trust that this 'emphasis' is more than election season window dressing.

[domenad]

You’d better more than retool it, McCain. You’d better gut it, overbore it, put some new rods and pistons in it, change the oil, tires, differential, do a full set of body work on it, paint it until it looks brand new, then decide it still isn’t good enough and push it over a cliff before buying a new one of a totally different model.

[The Toll]

I know who the re-TOOL is and it’s not conservatives. He can’t really think we’re that stupid?

[LachlanMinnesota]

I don’t trust certification by border state governors, either. Let’s have some criteria, other than having buddies say its been done.

We already heard the President promise to do this, but it has yet to be done.

[cripplecreek]

Comedy?

[org.whodat]

"He's in an excellent place with conservatives who are concerned about immigration, because his position — that he'll secure the border first and have that security certified by the border-state governors, and then we'll go back and deal with the 12 million — seems to have satisfied most people," said Charlie Black, a McCain adviser.

McCain when you get your rear kicked in November you need to read that statement of Charlie Black. The man has the mind of a four year old.

[Grunthor]

“McCain Retools Immigration Stance”

Could have just as easily read “McCain Lies”

[Just another Joe]

"He says, 'Look, we got the message — the American people do not trust us when we say we'll secure the border,'" Black added.

You're darn tootin I don't trust McCain when it comes to immigration.

[TexasCajun]

I apologize to all the offended Illegal Aliens for what the mean, uncaring Republican John MeCain said today.

[Hoffer Rand]

He’s a tool, alright, and we know who’s using him.

[Grunthor]

I will never trust a man that hired Dr. Juan Hernandez, period.

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

Retool, the new lying.

Retool all you want, you retread retard, you’re still out to destroy the nation.

[Travis McGee]

Don't listen to McCain's politically motivated promises of the moment: observe his actions. This is the man John McCain chose to be his "Hispanic Outreach Director." Hernandez is a certified traitor. Born in Dallas, he decided as an adult to become a dual-national Mexican citizen. His last "real" job was serving on Mexican President Vicente Fox's cabinet as his "American Reconquista Director." After that gig ran out, he worked (sic) for George Soros funded internationalist foundations, like the one that published his new book.

The "New American Pioneers" proclaimed in his book are the illegal alien invaders he urges to become settlers in the USA. Hernandez believes all Mexicans and Mexican-Americans in the USA should become dual citizens and consider themselves Mexicans first, "to the 8th generation." He believes there should be no border at all between Mexico and the USA, ever.

And this is the man McCain chose for his "Hispanic Outreach Director." In the past week McCain was asked about this choice, and he said he chose Hernandez because he agrees with his positions. If so, McCain is supporting invasion and reconquista.

Then I read our Constitution, Article 4 Section 4, where it says the federal government MUST protect the states from invasion, and I can only conclude one thing: John McCain is our new Benedict Arnold.

"In his own words: McCain’s radical Hispanic outreach director Juan Hernandez on youtube"

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/27/in-his-own-words-mccains-hispanic-outreach-director-preaches-open-borders/

[calcowgirl]

He can’t really think we’re that stupid?

Uhh... yeah. He can. And does. (imo)

[Grunthor]

“He can’t really think we’re that stupid?”

Seen the FR poll?

[kittymyrib]

How’s that double razor wire fence coming, John? Oh, by “securing the border” you mean putting up a “virtual fence” to guard the “virtual border.” Nice try, Loser.

[TADSLOS]

Actions, not bull#%&*.

A day earlier, in Milwaukee, in front of an audience of more sympathetic businessmen, McCain had been asked how debate over the immigration bill was playing politically. “In the short term, it probably galvanizes our base,” he said. “In the long term, if you alienate the Hispanics, you’ll pay a heavy price.” Then he added, unable to help himself, “By the way, I think the fence is least effective. But I’ll build the goddamned fence if they want it.”

Quit pandering to a demographic that owes no allegiance to this nation and sucks American taxpayers dry, kick Juan Hernandez to the curb and then you might be taken seriously.

[Shermy]

John McCain faces a dilemma on immigration as he works to persuade conservatives he's tough enough on the issue without erasing his historic appeal to Hispanic voters.

White liberal racist myth that "Hispanic voters" support McCain's immigration plans.

Once a crusader for offering the nation's roughly 12 million undocumented immigrants a way to get legal status, McCain now says his first priority is fortifying U.S. borders.

False dilemma. One does not preclude the other. George Bush says the same thing for the borders--then instant lifetime legalization with Z Visas.

He instead emphasizes border security — the catch phrase of conservatives who scorned his earlier proposals.

Just a "catch phrase" eh? More liberal projection.

"He's in an excellent place with conservatives who are concerned about immigration, because his position — that he'll secure the border first and have that security certified by the border-state governors, and then we'll go back and deal with the 12 million — seems to have satisfied most people,"

No it doesn't. It says McCain is absolutely insincere. He plans a massive amnesty+. No different than Bush, he is using a ruse where he will announce the "borders are secure" and then give us amnesty, as if that's what it was all about. McCain is his usual devious self again.

[Zathras]

The only way to fix a dull tool is put it on a grinding wheel or buy a new one.
Simply painting it a new color doesn't make it work any better.

[wolfcreek]

FLIP-FLOP (for those of you in Rio Linda)

HISPANDERING for the rest.

[Grunthor]

“The man has the mind of a four year old.”

How dare you. My nephew is 4 years old and is FAR more intelligent.

[Sybeck1]

We need a “Million Minuteman March” in Washington this summer. McCain and the RNC need to stand and look across a large crowd that have gathered in protest one of McCain’s pet issues.

[wolfcreek]

Who thinks Geraldo needs his ass kicked?

[truthkeeper]

If he wants any credibility on the issue, the first thing he needs to do is stop using the “12 million” figure. PLEASE!

[The Toll]

I don’t want a show. I want the law enforced, ALL OF IT! As if that actually means anything to anyone anymore.

[HANG THE EXPENSE]

I am going to send mcnutts some ball bearings to play with cause he must be crazy to think we buy his nonsense.

[Anonymous Rex]

If Charlie Black thinks McCain is in a “excellent place with conservatives” then I can only conclude that Charlie Black is mentally handicapped.

[Salvation]

Seal the border, Senator McCain!

[truthkeeper]

Have you ever watched the guy interviewed? He talks like he was dropped on his head.

[The Citizen Soldier]

OMG, saw that headline and I was half expecting to see a picture of McCain in an airport restroom.

[HANG THE EXPENSE]

Boy does he ever.

[Freedom2specul8]

marked to read later

[apocalypto]

Yeah, J. McCain has lied too often. And he did vote against barring gang members and terrorists from entry into US. Was he maybe afraid his and Cindy’s drug supply would be cut off, was he blackmailed to vote this way, or is there more to him than we are aware of?

[WilliamofCarmichael]

Metamorphosis?

there's little mention of the fight to give illegal immigrants a way to stay in the U.S. lawfully. He instead emphasizes border security

He's just saying he'll distract us with his border defense diddling while jetting after amnesty assisted by afterburners.

The Senator should understand that we all have sixteen years experience with the preeminent flimflam man in our history, the Grand Wallah of Isflam Bill Clinton, intern be upon him.

We're experts. Nice try, though.

[Anonymous Rex]

No I haven’t seen him, anytime anyone from McCain’s camp is on the radio or t.v. I switch over to cartoons. That way at least I learn something and don’t completely waste my time.

[calcowgirl]

I don’t trust certification by border state governors, either.

Aww... come on. Schwarzenegger, Richardson, Perry, and Napolitano?

I've often wondered if he isn't referring to the "border state governors" as those from Mexico.

Check out the new website for our "legislators" : http://www.borderlegislators.org

[spectre]

He's from Arizona and helped draft the defeated comprehensive immigration reform. He now hires Juan Hernandez? What are we supposed to think?

McCain will blame anyone but himself if the Border is not secured. Then, he will reintroduce his Comprehensive Immigration Reform package, and we'll fight him like we had to fight George Bush.

We're being asked to vote for a Republican President who we are going to do battle with...AGAIN?

I'm so weary..

sw

[org.whodat]

How dare you. My nephew is 4 years old and is FAR more intelligent.

You do have a point! I would say my neighbors dog, but I don't want to insult the dog.

[AmericaUnited]

Are you not concerned that both of the illegal immigrants in Minnesota might come gunning for you after posting that?

[TomGuy]

And if he gets elected, like his predecessor, he will try to push amnesty through.

Wanna bet that at the end of his first 4 years the borders are just as porous as they are now? Wanna bet that at the end of his 8 years (if he lives that long) the borders are just as porous as they are now? Wanna bet that at the end of his presidency just as many, if not more, illegals will have been allowed to flood over the borders and his predecessor allowed?

But hey, he has an R after his name so he must be okay. [Yeh, right. So did his predecessor.]

[truthkeeper]

Well, he talks a lot like Mr. Rogers. Get the picture?

[calcowgirl]

ROFLMHO!!!

[RJL]

I don’t trust certification by border state governors, either. Let’s have some criteria, other than having buddies say its been done.

We already heard the President promise to do this, but it has yet to be done.

Bush & Co. have no intention of securing the borders. Bush is leaving it for someone else to fix.

Several months ago Michael Chertoff stated that they would not have operational control of the borders until 2012.

[Cicero]

If you give McCain a choice between betraying his friend Teddy or the conservative base, he’ll betray the conservative base any day of the week.

This means nothing. He was already running while he was co-sponsoring McCain Kennedy. That’s why he didn’t have time to attend any of the later meetings or read the documents.

[King of Florida]

then we'll go back and deal with give amnesty to the 12 million

Fixed it.

[snowrip]

"He's in an excellent place with conservatives who are concerned about immigration, because his position — that he'll secure the border first and have that security certified by the border-state governors, and then we'll go back and deal with the 12 million — seems to have satisfied most people,"

Read as: If we lie long enough, we think that conservatives will buy the whoppers we're shoveling. We'll tell them that we'll "secure" the border without specifying what "secure" means. Then, we'll grant the 20 million or so who are already here amnesty. That will satisfy most people... as long as they are illegal aliens or democrats.

[oldbill]

"He's in an excellent place with conservatives who are concerned about immigration, because his position — that he'll secure the border first and have that security certified by the border-state governors, and then we'll go back and deal with the 12 million — seems to have satisfied most people," said Charlie Black, a McCain adviser.

This comment by Black illustrates the contempt these political insider elitists have for the American voter, and especially conservatives.

Morons like Black (who was principal public spokesman for President Bush in the 1992 presidential campaign, and you know where that went) think we are stupid brainless vassals whom they can manipulate at will. "That seems to have satisfied most people" he said. How would he even know - he doesn't even talk to normal people!

The truth is that McCain has not changed a single position on amnesty and open borders. He does not bother to define or quantify "securing the border", other than a vague statement by 4 pro-illegal alien border governors that "everything looks good here, man!" He won't define a threshold or measurable indicator.

And once that border has been magically "secured" he will press for amnesty for - let's get real on this number - upwards of 40,000,000 illegals, which current laws will allow to bring in another 60-80,000,000 siblings, spouses, parents, and children.

Of course, Charlie Black and his ilk will continue to live in his gated community of million dollar homes.

McCain will win the war? So what. All that will be doing is expending a huge treasure of American lives to protect a nation of foreigners.

If we won't even fight the war at home, why the hell fight the one over there? Al Qaida won't be interested in attacking an America that looks like Argentina or Nicaragua.

[T-Bird45]

“McCain Retools Immigration Stance”

Could have just as easily read “McCain Lies”

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GMTA — only 8 posts to get to my immediate thought.

T-Bird45 at the announcement press conference: “Senator McCain, were you lying in your first statement of position or are you lying now?”

[Grunthor]

LOL!