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Police: Man in critical condition after exposure to ricin
CNN ^ | 2-29-08 | CNN

Posted on 02/29/2008 12:39:14 PM PST by SeafoodGumbo

A man who stayed in a Las Vegas hotel room where ricin was found is in critical condition at a hospital, where he has been since mid-February, said a Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department official.

A man is in critical condition after exposure to ricin at a Las Vegas, Nevada, hotel.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: lasvegas; movealong; nothingtoseehere; notterrorism; poison; ricin; vegas
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To: penelopesire

another one

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2008/03/01/ap4717809.html


141 posted on 02/29/2008 10:04:04 PM PST by stlnative
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To: stlnative

There are some new threads on FR I was just reading. Been out all night and now trying to catch up. Thanks for the link.


142 posted on 02/29/2008 10:09:18 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: stlnative

From your link:

“There is no information to lead us to believe that this is the result of any terrorist activity or related to any possible terrorist activity,” Suey said. “We don’t have any reason to believe any of it left the property.”

For cryin out loud..We are suppose to trust this woman when apparently they still don’t know if the guy who turned in the vials was a friend or relative?

This is laughable! They must be having some language issues..as in translation problems with the suspects involved. That’s the only thing that makes any sense.


143 posted on 02/29/2008 10:31:24 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire
“I want to assure everybody that the Las Vegas Valley is safe,” Lombardo said. “We currently don’t have a terrorist threat.”

WHY??? Because the TERRORIST is in the HOSPITAL?????

144 posted on 03/01/2008 6:45:19 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: penelopesire
I for one don’t believe the reports about an ‘Anarchist Cookbook’ opened to the very page on ricin! That’s ridiculous. The stuff was already made and put into vials for crying out loud!

Very good point. Could the book be an after-the-fact prop introduced to the scene to point investigators in the wrong direction?

Or--maybe, with the head chef in the hospital, someone else was then charged with completing the batches needed--someone who wasn't as skilled, and needed a cookbook?

145 posted on 03/01/2008 6:52:22 AM PST by Eroteme
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To: Eroteme

It’s either a prop or more obfuscation from the officials. If you listen to the PM presser, they say ‘anarchist TYPE textbook’ and then the media translates that statement to ‘Anarchist textbook’ for print.

For all we know, it was a AQ training manual opened to the Ricin/chemical weapons chapter!

Remember..in a liberal’s mind,it is not about a murderous Islamic Fascist agenda...it is a ‘law enforcement’ issue.

They are just ‘Anarchists’.

They also like to use code-words like ‘Anarchists’ to descibe ‘domestic terrorists’, but just because something is domestic does not mean it is not INSPIRED by AQ or Islamist propaganda.

Thanks for your thoughts on this very strange story.


146 posted on 03/01/2008 7:31:34 AM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire
"BUT HEY...IT DOESN’T MAKE YOU A TERRORIST JUST BECAUSE YOU LIKE TO READ ‘ANARCHIST TEXTBOOKS’ ON HOW TO MAKE RICIN FOLKS....."

...AND have castor beans (the raw source of ricin) and vials of completed ricin -- and "weapons"...

Doesn't sound to me like this guy was cooking himself up a pot of chili -- or something else good to eat...

This sounds like the Fumbling Bums of Idiocy at work...

147 posted on 03/01/2008 7:37:44 AM PST by TXnMA (Don't vote for McCain. Vote AGAINST the Democrats!!!)
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To: djf
>Well, if it was terrorist related, and they said as much, that could shut down Las Vegas for some time... The cost would be enormous, incalculable

"It's NEWS, Vincenzo,
NEWS! Remember when papers
told people the NEWS?!"

148 posted on 03/01/2008 7:42:32 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: penelopesire

Good distinction. The term “anarchist-type cookbook” seems specifically chosen to invoke the image of white, domestic radical. It cannot be coincidence that this term so very closely tracks the name of an actual book from the 60’s. It would appear that the intent is to deliberately conflate the two.


149 posted on 03/01/2008 7:48:17 AM PST by Eroteme
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To: TXnMA

LOL at your term for the FBI. Although, the FBI is not as infiltrated (yet) by the ‘Shadow Warriors’ as the CIA, they still have the Jamie Gorelick/Clintoon holdovers that carry a certain mindset into every investigation.

A mindset that will get us all killed if the dems remain in charge.

Wonder if part of the problem in this investigation concerns FISA? They may be having a hard time tracking down information because the dem congress did not pass the bill!!


150 posted on 03/01/2008 7:57:09 AM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire

And even THAT doesn’t make sense.

The entire story sounds so contrived.


151 posted on 03/01/2008 10:21:41 AM PST by bonfire
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To: Habibi
Interesting analysis offered by police:

Roger Von Bergendorff, who had been admitted to the hospital on Feb. 14 with breathing problems. Von Bergendorff is now in critical condition and police sources say he has slipped into a coma. Police say they don't think foul play is involved, however they are still investigating why the man had ricin in his room.

. . .Not related to terror if only by the fact that the perp is not in a coma and never got a chance. Oh well. . .maybe he just hated his dog.

152 posted on 03/02/2008 6:18:04 AM PST by cricket (Damn Political Correctness; before it irretrievably, damns us all. . .)
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To: xroadie

A Craig Ferguson fan perhaps? His opening line “Its a great day in America ...” Just curious/bump! ;-)


153 posted on 03/02/2008 8:49:56 AM PST by Troubling Times (If I used my usual it'd be a dead giveaway ;-)
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To: Sunnyflorida
The number one WEED on my farm is castor beans. I bet I grow a couple of hundred lbs a year.

Have you checked into the possibility of growing them commercially? The "weed" then becomes a "cash crop"...............

154 posted on 03/03/2008 5:15:06 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Sunnyflorida

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castor_oil

From WIKI:

Compared to other seed oils which lack the hydroxyl group, castor oil demands a higher price. As an example, in July 2007 Indian castor oil sold for about US$0.90 per kilogram (US$0.41 per pound)[3] while US soybean, sunflower and canola oil sold for about US$0.30 per kilogram (US$0.14 per pound)[4]

...
Uses

Castor oil in food

In the food industry, castor oil (food grade) is used in food additives [5], flavorings, candy (i.e., chocolate) [13], as a mold inhibitor, and in packaging. Polyoxyethylated castor oil (eg. Cremophor EL)[14] is also used in the foodstuff industries.[15]

Medicinal use of castor oil

The United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has categorized castor oil as “generally recognized as safe and effective” (GRASE) for over-the-counter use as a laxative.[16] However, it is not a preferred treatment for constipation.[17] Castor oil can also be used to induce childbirth, but doing so is sometimes cautioned against because it can lead to complications for the childbirth process, including dehydration of the mother and other risks associated with any inducement of pregnancy, such as fetal distress from too strong contractions, increased risk of uterine rupture, unintentional prematurity of the baby, and increased pain for the mother.[18]

Undecylenic acid, a castor oil derivative, is also FDA-approved for over-the-counter use on skin disorders or skin problems.[19]

Ricinoleic acid is the main component of castor oil and it exerts anti-inflammatory effects.[20]

One study has found that castor oil decreased pain more than ultrasound gel or Vaseline during extracorporeal shock wave application.[21] Therapeutically, modern drugs are rarely given in a pure chemical state, so most active ingredients are combined with excipients or additives. Castor oil, or a castor oil derivative such as Cremophor EL (polyethoxylated castor oil, a nonionic surfactant), is added to many modern drugs, including:

* Miconazole, an anti-fungal agent;[22][23]
* Paclitaxel, a mitotic inhibitor used in cancer chemotherapy;[24]
* Sandimmune (cyclosporine injection, USP), an immunosuppressant drug widely used in connection with organ transplant to reduce the activity of the patient’s immune system;[25]
* Nelfinavir mesylate, an HIV protease inhibitor;[26]
* Saperconazole, a triazole antifungal agent (contains Emulphor EL -719P, a castor oil derivative);[27]
* Prograf, an immunosuppressive drug (contains HCO-60, polyoxyl 60 hydrogenated Castor oil);[citation needed]
* Xenaderm ointment, a topical treatment for skin ulcers is a combination of Balsam Peru, Castor oil, and trypsin;[28][29]
* Aci-Jel, a gel used to create or maintain the acidity of the vagina (comprises acetic acid/oxyquinoline/ricinoleic acid - vaginal)[30]
Industrial castor oil

Castor oil has numerous applications in transportation, cosmetics and pharmaceutical, and manufacturing industries, for example: adhesives[32], brake fluids [33], caulks, dyes[32], electrical liquid dielectrics, humectants,[32] hydraulic fluids, inks[32], lacquers, leather treatments,[32] lubricating greases, machining oils, paints[32], pigments, polyurethane adhesives [34] , refrigeration lubricants, rubbers[32], sealants, textiles[32], washing powders, and waxes.

Vegetable oils, due to their good lubricity and biodegradability are attractive alternatives to petroleum-derived lubricants, but oxidative stability and low temperature performance limit their widespread use.[35] Castor oil has better low temperature viscosity properties and high temperature lubrication than most vegetable oils, making it useful as a lubricant in jet, diesel, and race-car engines.[36] However, castor oil tends to form gums in a short time, and its use is therefore restricted to engines that are regularly rebuilt, such as motorcycle race engines. Biodegradability results in decreased persistence in the environment (relative to petroleum-based lubricants[37]) in case of an accidental release. The lubricants company Castrol took its name from castor oil.

Since it is has a relatively high dielectric constant (4.7), highly refined and dried castor oil is sometimes used as a dielectric fluid within high performance high voltage capacitors.

Castor oil is the raw material for the production of a number of chemicals, notably sebacic acid, undecylenic acid, nylon-11. A review listing numerous chemicals derived from castor oil is available.[38]

Castor oil is the preferred lubricant for bicycle pumps, most likely because it doesn’t dissolve natural-rubber seals.[39]


155 posted on 03/03/2008 5:27:18 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Sunnyflorida

The noted price differential of $0.41 per pound versus $0.14 per pound for other “common” oil seed crops is huge. If they grow as “weeds” on your place you may be sitting on a “gold mine”...................


156 posted on 03/03/2008 5:30:47 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger

Thanks. I need to do some research on this. I just hope if I do it some crazy FReeper doesn’t call Charlotte County SWAT on me! They hear Ricin and panic.


157 posted on 03/03/2008 10:48:02 AM PST by Sunnyflorida (Drill in the Gulf of Mexico/Anwar & we can join OPEC!!! || Write in Thomas Sowell for President.)
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To: Sunnyflorida

Jes tell ‘em it’s for BIODIESEL!...................


158 posted on 03/03/2008 10:49:48 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Or
3. This man was targeted for assasination.


159 posted on 03/25/2008 2:49:45 PM PDT by DannyTN
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