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World's Largest Solar Power Plant Planned in Arizona
CoStar News ^ | Feb. 29, 2008 | Phillip Majarucon

Posted on 03/01/2008 3:28:56 AM PST by PeaceBeWithYou

Abengoa Solar Purchases 3,000 Acres for $1 Billion Solana Generating Plant

Abengoa Solar, a Spanish-based solar energy company, has purchased roughly 3,000 acres near Gila Bend, AZ, where it intends to develop the world's largest solar power plant.

An investment entity associated with Brandon Wolfswinkel of Tempe, AZ, sold the land for $45.12 million, or about $14,700 per acre.

Abengoa Solar, which has solar plants in Spain and northern Africa, will construct and operate the 280-megawatt, $1 billion facility known as the Solana Generating Plant. The plant will use thousands of giant mirrors covering 1,900 acres to harness the sun's heat (rather than its light) to turn steam turbines, generating electricity.

The plant is scheduled to go into production in 2011. It will be able to power 70,000 households while avoiding more than 400,000 tons of greenhouse gas emissions, according to Abengoa.

Arizona Public Service, the state's largest utility, has agreed to purchase the energy from Abengoa over the next 30 years. "This is a major milestone for Arizona in our efforts to increase the amount of renewable energy available in the United States," stated Arizona Governor Janet Napolitano. "Arizona is leading the way in protecting our world for future generations through increasing the amount of renewable energy, combating climate change, fighting for air quality and much more. This plant will offer Arizonans a clean and efficient source of energy."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events; Technical; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 280mw; gila; solar
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To: null and void
Here you go. I took these with my cell phone so they are not the best quality. The rotor is 65 ft long and 5 ft in diameter and weighs almost 200 tons. The crane you see carrying it has a capacity of 275 tons. It was sent here by rail.


181 posted on 03/01/2008 3:27:52 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: rb22982
653 KWH over 60 days
$25.29 for electricity supply @ 0.03873
$25.55 for distribution service
1.70 level purch power rate @ 0.0026010
0.11 sales and use charge
0.97 consumption tax
6.00 local tax
$59.62 for 60 days (Dec 10 to Feb 8)

Elsewhere on the bill it says "price to compare" is 3.873 cents per KWH

182 posted on 03/01/2008 3:59:56 PM PST by palmer
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To: driftdiver

We have a good source of energy, oil and fission. Its proven and our infrastructure already supports it.
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Agreed ,, coal (with scrubbers) is clean , cheap and abundant.. and nuclear is just flat wonderful... I see no need to do a project like this when a modern nuclear plant can generate many times the power for decades without interruption at a lower per kw cost. I’d like to reserve oil for things other than power generation... and drill like crazy to get more of it.


183 posted on 03/01/2008 4:00:30 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: Neidermeyer

Because of the wonders of government regulation no new nuclear power plants will be built. Ironically they could be built for less than this solar project without all the regulations whose only purpose is to make it impossible to build a new plant.

http://www.phyast.pitt.edu/~blc/book/chapter9.html

“Several large nuclear power plants were completed in the early 1970s at a typical cost of $170 million, whereas plants of the same size completed in 1983 cost an average of $1.7 billion, a 10-fold increase. Some plants completed in the late 1980s have cost as much as $5 billion, 30 times what they cost 15 years earlier.”


184 posted on 03/01/2008 4:09:39 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: rb22982

Maybe it’s your stove and washer/dryer. I know people who run their oven and washer every day. I wash 3 or 4 loads every 2 weeks and I run the dryer on low heat followed by no heat (since the dry air from the house dries the clothes). Stove is propane or I cook on the wood stove. Fridge is about 6 years old. I have CFL’s and I leave 3 of them on all the time outside. Any bulbs that I turn on and off are 60w incandescent. I have one 60w incandescent in the LR paired with a CFL that I leave on all evening.


185 posted on 03/01/2008 4:10:15 PM PST by palmer
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To: palmer
3.873 cents per KWH is amazing. The average rate is 10.69. It's 12.3 where I live. Your county must have locked in at really low rate for a long period of time.

Link to DOE stats

186 posted on 03/01/2008 4:17:47 PM PST by rb22982
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To: palmer

The three of us have about 6 loads of dishes, and maybe 10-12 loads of laundry. I don’t handle that really so don’t know how she does it. Even when I was single sharing a 1000sq ft apartment with another guy though with NO laundry here it was close to $70/month for electricity. I have a 500w power supply computer I have on for 6-7 hours a day though which I’m sure doesn’t help either but most other folks here in my area have about the same power bill.


187 posted on 03/01/2008 4:21:42 PM PST by rb22982
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To: driftdiver

Those are some eye-opening #s.


188 posted on 03/01/2008 4:22:26 PM PST by rb22982
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To: rb22982

“Those are some eye-opening #s.”

I’m always surprised at how much I can learn with a little research. We could be essentially free from foreign oil if we built more nuclear plants. Without the BS regulations we could build a known source for the same price as this glass factory.

A nuclear plant built for the same price would provide more energy than this place will.


189 posted on 03/01/2008 4:35:20 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: rb22982
I didn't lock. My number seems about 1/2 of what is in the table. Does the table include the distribution charge (which in my case is about the same as the electric charge)? If not, then I am paying less than the WV rate where I believe a lot of my power comes from (coal plant on Mt Storm). However, a new gas generator was just approved in my county (CPV Warren) so I am probably going to pay for the plant and expensive natural gas.

related news story: http://www.nvdaily.com/news/291101751208895.bsp

190 posted on 03/01/2008 4:48:23 PM PST by palmer
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To: supremedoctrine

If you lived in Gila Bend you should have seen farming there; there is farming along the rivers in the desert- not sure how you missed it. Farming is what caused Phoenix and many other desert towns in Arizona to be settled- at least the ones on the Gila and Salt Rivers. There is still a lot of farming in the Valley- but much of it has had houses built on it. When real estate gets high enough that the farmer cannot possibly make that much in a life time- they sell. I don’t blame them- it is their land after all; but still I wonder if we should be converting farm land to other uses. Future generations will need to eat. It is mostly desert that is true and that is why it annoys me that they diverted farm ground for this project. Miles and miles of desert and they just have to put this in an alfalfa field? Why?


191 posted on 03/01/2008 5:02:07 PM PST by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: rb22982

That sounds about right. I think mine is somewhere near the break even point, it might even be turning a profit (sort of, I’m not allowed to sell ‘excess’ power back to PG&E) by now.


192 posted on 03/01/2008 5:03:26 PM PST by null and void (I slept better when I thought our betters actually were better...)
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To: driftdiver
Not sure if PV arrays would make it through a hurricane though.

You amaze me. You managed to find yet another problem to go with a solution. Impressive, young Skywalker!

FWIW, the thought that my array might not make it through an earthquake didn't stop me from installing it...

193 posted on 03/01/2008 5:08:05 PM PST by null and void (I slept better when I thought our betters actually were better...)
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To: Mamzelle
I don't understand the FR kneejerk hostility to solar energy development. I concede the inefficiency with present technology--but who believes that we can never overcome the problems?

I don't get it either. Given that the 'fuel' is free, and at any given moment roughtly a kW/m2 is available on a goodly portion of the planet, just how efficient does a system to harvest it need to be???

It has the same charm as discussing how much money we need for the schools or welfare with a liberal.

No amount is enough, ever.

194 posted on 03/01/2008 5:16:03 PM PST by null and void (I slept better when I thought our betters actually were better...)
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To: palmer

Damn! I’m moving to Warren County.


195 posted on 03/01/2008 5:16:56 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: P8riot

Ooooooooooo!

Thanks!


196 posted on 03/01/2008 5:18:56 PM PST by null and void (I slept better when I thought our betters actually were better...)
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To: Neidermeyer
I’d like to reserve oil for things other than power generation... and drill like crazy to get more of it.

Agreed, it's just too darn useful as a chemical feedstock!

197 posted on 03/01/2008 5:20:41 PM PST by null and void (I slept better when I thought our betters actually were better...)
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
Abengoa Solar, a Spanish-based solar energy company, has purchased roughly 3,000 acres near Gila Bend, AZ, where it intends to develop the world's largest solar power plant. Iberdrola's previous acquisition of Scottish Power gave it ownership of Oregon-based PPM Energy, which operates several wind farms in the U.S.

Maine's Public Advocate, Richard Davies, said the sale will benefit Maine ratepayers and citizens in a number of ways.

"The companies are committed to state energy efficiency and energy conservation programs that have the potential of reducing the amounts of electricity customers need to purchase," Davies said.

He also said that "because Iberdrola is one of the largest and best financed utilities in the world, and is interested in investing in renewable energy projects such as wind energy, we believe they will make investments that will create jobs and economic activity in Maine."

Davies said Maine customers will not be charged for the "acquisition premium" or the transaction costs Iberdrola paid to purchase Energy East and Central Maine Power. Central Maine customers also will be held harmless for any increase in CMP's cost of debt caused by Iberdrola's financial status.Iberdrola's previous acquisition of Scottish Power gave it ownership of Oregon-based PPM Energy, which operates several wind farms in the U.S.

Maine's Public Advocate, Richard Davies, said the sale will benefit Maine ratepayers and citizens in a number of ways.

"The companies are committed to state energy efficiency and energy conservation programs that have the potential of reducing the amounts of electricity customers need to purchase," Davies said.

He also said that "because Iberdrola is one of the largest and best financed utilities in the world, and is interested in investing in renewable energy projects such as wind energy, we believe they will make investments that will create jobs and economic activity in Maine."

Davies said Maine customers will not be charged for the "acquisition premium" or the transaction costs Iberdrola paid to purchase Energy East and Central Maine Power. Central Maine customers also will be held harmless for any increase in CMP's cost of debt caused by Iberdrola's financial status.

198 posted on 03/01/2008 5:23:59 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: driftdiver
NoLibZone ~ Remind us of the foolishnesses from Hollywood that man could land on the moon.

driftdiver ~ I believe you are referring to Jules Vern’s BOOK. I’d like to see you go to the moon using his technology.

I believe Jules Verne never set foot in Hollywood, nor made a single film in france, for that matter...

199 posted on 03/01/2008 5:24:44 PM PST by null and void (I slept better when I thought our betters actually were better...)
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http://morningsentinel.mainetoday.com/news/local/4689519.html

Sorry for the mess above..stange.
I was trying to show that Iberdrola, another Spanish energy related company has purchased CMP in Maine, buiding a wind farm in N.H. purchased Scottish power as well.
Spanish owned energy companies seem to be in the forefront, where is the U.S. in their R&D?

http://www.iberdrola.es/wcorp/corporativa/iberdrola?IDPAG=ENINICIO


200 posted on 03/01/2008 5:29:05 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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