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Florida Lawmakers Want Women Having Abortions To View Ultrasounds
Local 6 News ^ | 2-29-2008

Posted on 03/01/2008 6:52:44 AM PST by Cagey

Opponents Call Proposal Micromanaging Medical Care

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Two state lawmakers said they have a plan to reduce the number of abortions in Florida.

The proposal would require women to have an ultrasound before they could have an abortion in Florida.

Sen. Dan Webster and Rep. Trey Traviesa are sponsoring the bill.

Under Webster's plan, doctors would be required to give a woman the option of seeing the ultrasound pictures unless she's the victim of rape, incest or human trafficking.

If the woman does not want to see the ultrasound, she would be required to sign a waiver.

Figures show more than 95,000 abortions were performed in Florida in 2006.

Supporters of the idea said an ultrasound would be a powerful image that would make women think twice before going ahead with an abortion.

But Planned Parenthood activist said the plan to require ultrasounds is micromanaging medical care.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: abortion; informedconsent; ultrasound

1 posted on 03/01/2008 6:52:46 AM PST by Cagey
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To: Cagey

I think they should also be subject to a 10 day “cooling off” period. After all, we gun owners have to put up with that. Why shouldn’t they?


2 posted on 03/01/2008 6:54:49 AM PST by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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To: Cagey

A totally agree. If abortion cannot be banned (according to the wonderful judicial branch of government writing “rites” that do not exist in the US Constitution), then anything else we can to do help women see that what is growing in them is not just some lump of flesh like a tumor... but is a real person, can only help reduce the number of pre-birth murders.


3 posted on 03/01/2008 6:58:42 AM PST by TheBattman (LORD God, please give us a Christian Patriot with a backbone for President in 08, Amen.)
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To: Cagey
give a woman the option of seeing the ultrasound pictures unless she's the victim of rape, incest or human trafficking

Because we certainly don't want victims to have the option of ultrasound. They might even decide their situation is not the baby's fault, and we can't have that!

4 posted on 03/01/2008 7:02:56 AM PST by Tax-chick (If there's a bustle in your hedgerow, don't shoot! It might be Wednesday!)
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To: Joe Brower; wagglebee; ExTexasRedhead; Coleus; Salvation; JulieRNR21

This sounds reasonable to me.


5 posted on 03/01/2008 7:08:29 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (You can't be serious about national security unless you're serious about border security)
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To: Cagey

If the Ultrasound was performed by an adopted person it would have even more impact.


6 posted on 03/01/2008 7:10:09 AM PST by Haddit (A Hunter Conservative)
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To: Cagey

Not a bad idea, but who is going to pay for it? More taxes for ultrasounds? Not my money!


7 posted on 03/01/2008 7:16:39 AM PST by mngran2
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To: TheBattman

Back in the early 70’s, some medical texts showed fetal development in a very strange way. The pictures showed a 4week embryo as looking like a tadpole. Then, an 8 week fetus as looking like a snail shell. And then, by 16 weeks it looked like a real baby.

The ignorance of fetal development continues today, believe it or not! I remember talking to one lady who was demanding an abortion for her 15 year old, 8 week pregnant daughter. She wanted to do it while the baby “was still a worm”.

A friend came to me with a zip lock bag with an unidentifiable tissue (large blood clot) to ask if she’d had a miscarriage. She thought she was about 3 months along.

One day while sitting with a group of women in an abortion clinic, one of the women hesitantly asked what it whas she was getting ready to abort. The paid ‘counselor’ told her that all she ever saw coming down the tube was bloody mucus.

Another girl I knew thought that her big, full term pregnant belly was fat, and that it turned into a baby on the way out! She actually believed that!!

The idea of ultra sounds on women prior to abortions isn’t a bad idea. Due to the outright lies told to women about what it is they are actually pregnant with, will definately be exposed. Some women are actually shocked and surprised to realize it’s not just a tonsil, but a person. Some hearts are softened toward their ‘young one’ while others are in such a state of panic and survival mode, that it won’t matter to them. And those who are being pused by someone other than themselves to have an abortion may or may not be strengthened to make their own decisions.

“Abortions” performed on women who are NOT pregnant will also be exposed. No more falsified pregnancy tests can be used to glean the almighty dollar. Yes, fake abortions do happen.

However, the person performing the sonogram will be the actual weak spot. There already exists problems with the skill level of those who work the machines.

“Micromanaging healthcare” is about the flimsiest comment I’ve ever heard in my life in this day and age of having to produce an ID to get your throat swabbed for strep in a regular doctor’s office!


8 posted on 03/01/2008 7:21:23 AM PST by PrairieLady2
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To: PrairieLady2

Good post. There is an “enforced ignorance” about all of this. Advances in medical technology have shown that the entire premise of Roe was uninformed regarding the “personhood” of the unborn child and, thus, completely wrong. Not only morally but also constitutionally. All of that is deliberately disregarded so as to preserve the “barbaric sacrament”. Yhe pro-abortion blood merchants know that the only thing they have on their side is a deeply flawed Supreme Court decision and so they have to cover all new information with their very dark blanket. The very essence of paganism.


9 posted on 03/01/2008 7:33:28 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Emmett McCarthy
I think this is an excellent idea. I teach anatomy and have seen many pictures of a 20 week (four and a half months) fetus, and, believe me, they will dispel the notion that it is an "unviable tissue mass".

IMO, it is much better that the woman be told the truth so that she can make an informed decision rather than for her to be overcome with guilt later when she does realize that she has destroyed a BABY, not a amorphous mass of tissue.
10 posted on 03/01/2008 10:13:30 AM PST by srmorton (Choose life!)
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To: JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; windchime; ...
Florida Freeper


11 posted on 03/01/2008 11:08:21 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: srmorton

I would like to think you’re right, but those who support - and profit mightily from - this agenda do not want “informed choice”. I’m also afraid too many people do not want the information. They only want their “rights”. You might appreciate “A Dream A Lot Like Mine”. Just click http://www.myspace.com/emmettgrayson. It’s free, of course.


12 posted on 03/01/2008 12:42:18 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: mngran2

Not a bad idea, but who is going to pay for it? More taxes for ultrasounds? Not my money!
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Most abortion clinics already have ultrasound equipment so that they can charge more if the baby is older than XX weeks.. What I see happening is that the operator will focus on something other than the baby ,, the placenta or something similar and offer that view... The cost of operating the machine is near zero ,, the operator is the only real cost.


13 posted on 03/01/2008 3:55:31 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: Cagey
But Planned Parenthood activist said the plan to require ultrasounds is micromanaging medical care.

I bet he/she/it supports Universal Healthcare. If so he/she/it just aborted his/her/its own argument.

14 posted on 03/01/2008 3:59:42 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Cagey

One point - An ultrasound prior to the third month is generally useless.


15 posted on 03/01/2008 4:00:40 PM PST by reg45
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To: PrairieLady2
Great post. But how about requiring a full education in reproduction in our gooberment schools. As long as we are going to allow the Federal government to confiscate our money and dictate terms on education we ought to demand that they provide a real sex education curriculum. Every kid could see a sonogram of a fetus in utero and a whole lot more before they ever graduate high school.
16 posted on 03/01/2008 4:13:34 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: Cagey

**Florida Lawmakers Want Women Having Abortions To View Ultrasounds**

Sounds like a good idea to me. Just might shut down the killing house!


17 posted on 03/01/2008 8:08:04 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Clintonfatigued; Joe Brower
I am volunteer counselor at a ‘crisis pregnancy’ center. We provide free pregnancy tests and free ultrasounds.

We have seen a great number of women decide to either parent or place their babies for adoption after seeing that they are carrying a real little person NOT a ‘blob of tissue’.

18 posted on 03/01/2008 9:06:14 PM PST by JulieRNR21 (Trust the Lord with all your heart.......)
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