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14 Years Later, Mystery Still Remains in the Death of Vince Foster
The New Media Journal ^ | 7/21/2007 | Kathy Miller

Posted on 03/01/2008 12:25:11 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature

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To: Lady GOP

Notes left by Freepers found in Fort Marcy Park after an onsite investigation

101 posted on 03/01/2008 4:15:27 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Never say never (there'll be a VP you'll like))
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

102 posted on 03/01/2008 4:15:53 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Hillary Clinton - It's OBAMAS Party and She'll Cry if She Wants to?)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

Thanks for looking.


103 posted on 03/01/2008 4:23:41 PM PST by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

Nope. Not even close. Read the interview and Lisa mentions the family had a silver gun that was packed for Washington. The interviewers offered Lisa no details other than asking her questions.

There’s no reason to add this to any controversy.


104 posted on 03/01/2008 4:25:42 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: secretagent
First report says no exit wound, and the second report finds an exit wound in the back of the head.

If you don't want a bullet to be recovered, you would say there was an exit wound. That is from Dr. Beyer who said he took x-rays on his report, but after he couldn't produce them, he said his equipment was not working properly.

The x-ray machine company received no complaint on his equipment and in fact did a routine test on it 2 weeks later and found it to be working perfectly. That is from the congressional hearings.

105 posted on 03/01/2008 4:26:46 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: kjo

JFK’s murder is a case closed. Study the shooting by itself and you’ll see all the shots came from the sixth floor.


106 posted on 03/01/2008 4:27:38 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
On the night of Foster’s death, top Clinton aides made a frantic effort to enter and remove documents from his West Wing office.

Wouldn't that be a Federal felony? Don't any of you little people try tampering with evidence before the FBI gets there.

107 posted on 03/01/2008 5:19:39 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
A so-called suicide note was found in an office briefcase that had been searched and found to be empty after Foster’s death. The note was torn into 27 pieces. Yet an FBI examination found no trace of Foster’s fingerprints on the note and three independent handwriting experts determined that Foster's suicide note, was a forgery.

Another Federal felony. Oh, to live the lifestyles of the high and mighty.

108 posted on 03/01/2008 5:26:14 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
Image and video hosting by TinyPic All I can say...compare the "R".....
109 posted on 03/01/2008 5:29:38 PM PST by mo
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To: Shooter 2.5

The History Channel (of all places) did a great documentary analysis of JFKs shooting with modern computer analysis of the famous Zapruder film. It shot down every conspiracy quite effectively. It showed the Warren Commision’s “Magic Bullet” theory to be the ridiculous nonsense it is and it shredded Oliver Stone’s movie “JFK.” Virtually nothing in Stone’s movie was true including numerous characters he invented out of thin air. The conclusion; one shooter (Oswald) with one gun from the sixth floor window of the Texas Book Depository.


110 posted on 03/01/2008 5:35:13 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: TigersEye
"On the night of Foster’s death, top Clinton aides made a frantic effort to enter and remove documents from his West Wing office."

In regards to Post # 1, It wasn't an effort, it was done.

111 posted on 03/01/2008 5:41:43 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: pandoraou812
Some Clinton info needed here...

If you want Clinton info there is no greater source than this...

THE DOWNSIDE LEGACY ARCHIVES

112 posted on 03/01/2008 5:43:20 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: bert

Many inconsistencies in this story. Also people who commit suicide usually close themselves off somewhere not shoot themselves in a public place.


113 posted on 03/01/2008 5:43:55 PM PST by Lady GOP
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To: TigersEye

The Foster controversy - death of Clinton administration attorney Vincent Foster - Brief Article
Reed Irvine

Mr. Irvine is chairman of Accuracy in Media.

PROFESSOR Jacob Cohen’s review of The Strange Death of Vincent Foster by Christopher Ruddy is badly out of focus (”Conspiracy Central” November 24). He confines himself to discussing peripheral oddities and ignores the evidence that has convinced students of the case that Foster did not die in Fort Marcy Park.

Two of the paramedics who viewed Foster’s body reported his death as a homicide. They had more experience with suicides and homicides than the U.S. Park Police officers who were in charge of the investigation. Their suspicions were aroused by the attitude of the body, which was laid out as if ready for a coffin. That is very unusual for a suicide by gunshot. The neatness of the scene was also suspicious. A gunshot to the head usually creates a bloody mess. Paramedic Richard Arthur said the only wound he could see was on the right side of the neck, and he said it was too small to have been made by the large-caliber brown/black semi-automatic he said he saw in Foster’s hand.

The fact that a gun was found in Foster’s hand should not have been regarded as evidence of suicide, because in the case of cadaveric spasm the gun is usually thrown out of the hand by the recoil when a person shoots himself to death.

Mr. Cohen apparently does not know that Kenneth Starr ordered a third intensive search to find the bullet that killed Foster because without it he had no evidence that proved that the fatal shot was fired in the park. The search took seven weeks, and it was a failure. That means there is still no forensic evidence that Foster died where his body was found.

Dr. Henry Lee, a consultant Starr hired, tried to make up for this troublesome deficiency by claiming to find red stains on some of the foliage shown in the Polaroid photos of Foster’s body. His claims are not evidence. There should have been blood spattered all over the vegetation, but no one at the scene saw any. Nor did they find any bone fragments from the exit wound in the skull, or any brain tissue.

Neither blood nor fingerprints were found on the gun. The absence of blood is especially suspicious because the muzzle had to have been pressed against the soft palate to account for the absence of severe powder burns inside the mouth. There should have been blowback of blood and tissue inside the barrel. The DNA on the gun to which Cohen attaches so much weight does not prove that the barrel was ever inside Foster’s mouth. It is a type shared by 6 per cent of Caucasians and 8 per cent of blacks and Hispanics, according to the FBI Crime Lab.

No one has explained how Foster’s glasses could have flown through the air and landed 13 feet in front of his body. Starr’s report makes the astonishing claim that “the location where the glasses were found is consistent with the conclusion that Mr. Foster was wearing the glasses when the shot was fired.” He doesn’t try to explain what propelled them through the air.

Starr and his predecessor Robert Fiske both recognized that it was important to show that Foster owned the gun that was found in his hand. Since he owned two modern handguns, a silver revolver and a semi-automatic .45, the question of why he would shoot himself with an eighty-year-old gun that he didn’t own had to be answered. Starr and Fiske tried to make it appear that Foster’s widow, Lisa, had identified the eighty-year-old black Colt Army Special as the “silver six-gun” that she herself had packed and brought to Washington. They accomplished this by not reporting that the gun found in Foster’s hand was black. Starr acknowledged that the gun Mrs. Foster brought from Arkansas was silver. That was the nice, “store-bought” silver revolver that Foster’s nephew, Foster Bowman, says Foster inherited from his father. There is no evidence that the black gun belonged to Foster. It was not a family heirloom, as Cohen describes it. It was a typical untraceable drop gun, made up from parts of two different weapons.

Cohen cannot dismiss the eyewitness testimony and photographic evidence of a possible wound in the neck simply by saying that the medical examiner who performed the autopsy did not notice it. This would not be the first time Dr. James Beyer had failed to notice a wound that proved that the victim had not committed suicide. The body should be exhumed and a second autopsy made.

All these bits of evidence that undermine the suicide-in-the-park theory are rendered superfluous by the unrefuted evidence that Foster’s car did not arrive at the Fort Marcy parking lot until at least two hours after the estimated time of his death. Patrick Knowlton reported seeing a 1983 or 1984 brown Honda with Arkansas plates in the parking lot at 4:30 P.M. After viewing photos of Foster’s grey 1989 Honda, he told the FBI that the car he saw in that spot was definitely not Foster’s. It was the wrong color, the wrong age, the wrong size, and lacked several features that distinguished Foster’s car, including a decal in the rear window and a dent on the back.

Two other eyewitnesses who pulled into the parking lot not long after Knowlton left also saw a brown, mid-1980s Honda parked in the same spot in the lot. They were still in the park when the police arrived and were questioned about what cars they had seen. This was done in the parking lot where Foster’s light grey Honda was now parked in the spot where they had seen the brown Honda an hour or so before. The car they described to the police and the FBI was the brown Honda, not Foster’s light grey Honda. Both the Fiske and Starr reports are completely silent on the description these witnesses gave of the brown car. They do not claim that these witnesses saw Foster’s car, but Starr’s report uses a footnote to imply that they did.

The three judges who appointed Starr ordered him to append to his report twenty pages of comments and exhibits submitted by Knowlton’s attorney which show that Vince Foster did not drive to Fort Marcy Park and kill himself, as Starr’s report contends. The judges were not compelled by law to do this. They obviously saw that Starr had suppressed important evidence that disproved his finding. They decided that the public had a right to know it. Cohen tries to discredit Knowlton, portraying him as paranoid. The FBI went to a lot of trouble to create that impression, but the judges didn’t buy it. It is too bad NATIONAL REVIEW did.


114 posted on 03/01/2008 5:47:26 PM PST by Lady GOP
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To: Lady GOP
On the night of Foster’s death, top Clinton aides made a frantic effort to enter and remove documents from his West Wing office. In the days that followed, federal investigators were stymied in their investigation of Foster’s office and strange death.

Obstruction of justice...

Hopefully we'll be rid of Hillary...

115 posted on 03/01/2008 5:57:02 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: xkaydet65
Chancellor Joel Klein. As Deputy White House Counsel he was first into Foster's office and supposedly discovered the "suicide note"

He was preceded by the one who put the note there. (And also, at least, by Nussbaum, Thomason and Williams.)

ML/NJ

116 posted on 03/01/2008 6:00:22 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: Shooter 2.5

Doesn’t it look like LBJ had plenty of protection?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY02Qkuc_f8


117 posted on 03/01/2008 6:00:30 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Hopefully we’ll be rid of Hillary...

And possibly replaced her with something even worse. I fear our country may be lost.


118 posted on 03/01/2008 6:02:52 PM PST by Lady GOP
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To: TigersEye

Yep. More and more people are digging through the evidence and finding out for themselves that Oswald killed Kennedy. I did notice that the front page of the Dallas Morning News has a story on the files in which they are going somewhere. The article actually had an incomplete sentence as to where they are going. “Gotta keep that controversy going for the out of town hicks.


119 posted on 03/01/2008 6:07:21 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: bjs1779

Debunked. It was the end of the travel route and the agents were not going to hang onto a limo at highway speed up Stemmons[I-35].


120 posted on 03/01/2008 6:10:29 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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