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Paul and Kucinich Triumph, Clinton Endures, Mike Huckabee Splatters Against the Wall
Reason Hit & Run ^ | 4 Mar 2008 | David Weigel

Posted on 03/04/2008 6:07:38 PM PST by oblomov

UPDATE 8:36: Ron Paul has been re-elected to Congress in the Fourteenth District of Texas.

Campaign manager Mark Elam: "Chris Peden is toast. It's just a question of how big the margin is."

The campaign is looking at a result in line with its final internal polls, with about 70 percent of the vote going to Paul.

With about 8,400 votes in, Paul is leading Peden 72-28.

UPDATE 8:53: These are early votes being reported right now, but around 40 to 50 percent of votes were cast in early voting and the Paul campaign doesn't expect the election day results to diverge. Brazoria County, which casts the plurality of TX-14 votes, is going 72-28 for Paul and 16 percent for him in the presidential race. Fort Bend County is Peden's stronghold, going only 60-40 for Paul.

(Excerpt) Read more at reason.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: chrispeden; kucinich; mikehuckabee; oh2008; peden; ronpaul; tx2008
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Ron Paul is part of the right, even if his views are sometimes minority opinions within the right. I'm glad the voters of TX-14 saw fit to return Paul to Congress.
1 posted on 03/04/2008 6:07:39 PM PST by oblomov
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To: oblomov
So far:

Ron Paul: 10,569

Chris Peden: 4,913

Total votes: 15,482

Most overhyped failed congressional primary challenger ever.

2 posted on 03/04/2008 6:09:40 PM PST by NoWayMcCain
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To: oblomov

Good, we need dissenting voices within the party, even if they can be a bit extreme at times.


3 posted on 03/04/2008 6:11:22 PM PST by eclecticEel (oh well, Hunter 2012 anyone?)
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To: NoWayMcCain

4 posted on 03/04/2008 6:11:57 PM PST by oblomov
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To: oblomov

5 posted on 03/04/2008 6:13:03 PM PST by NoWayMcCain
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; George W. Bush; Revelation 911; NapkinUser; DreamsofPolycarp; The_Eaglet; ...

Let freedom ping.


6 posted on 03/04/2008 6:24:13 PM PST by CJ Wolf (The Ron Paul - Let Freedom Ping list - freepmail me to be on it.)
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To: oblomov

Congratulations to Ron Paul!


7 posted on 03/04/2008 6:31:43 PM PST by Womp Rat
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To: oblomov

Rwned


8 posted on 03/04/2008 6:31:55 PM PST by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: oblomov

9 posted on 03/04/2008 6:32:31 PM PST by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: oblomov

Wouldn’t want Paul as CinC, but I can definitely live with him in congress.


10 posted on 03/04/2008 6:33:39 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: CJ Wolf

SoS Results
http://enr.sos.state.tx.us/enr/mar04_135_state.htm?x=0&y=1500&id=927


11 posted on 03/04/2008 6:34:16 PM PST by FreeInWV
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To: oblomov

12 posted on 03/04/2008 6:41:51 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: oblomov
What a pity Chris Peden wasted his efforts trying to unseat a conservative, instead of going after a RINO (the term 'RINO' is sorta meaningless now...if the bulk of the party drifts left while you stay still, eventually you will be a RINO, though I am not sure we are at that point yet where the connotation should be the inverse of what it used to be) left-winger (either R or D).

Some fresh blood with his (fairly conservative - regardless of his neocon support) alignment would be welcome. Why not aim for the 16th district nomination in the hopes of being the candidate to take that seat from the rats for the second time in 100 years?

13 posted on 03/04/2008 6:45:53 PM PST by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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To: oblomov

I will admit I have grown to like Ron Paul over the course of this campaign, after ridiculing him in the beginning. His views on fiscal conservatism and the failure of the profligate Federal Reserve have been spot on.


14 posted on 03/04/2008 6:50:16 PM PST by montag813
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To: oblomov
UPDATE 8:36: Ron Paul has been re-elected to Congress in the Fourteenth District of Texas...with about 70 percent of the vote going to Paul.

Huzzah!

15 posted on 03/04/2008 7:05:43 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" -- Galatians 4:16)
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To: oblomov
Ohio Secretary of State reports 0...that's zero votes reported for District 10. I'm not sure where Kucinich victory projections are coming from. Of course, he always wins in an area that has been nearly destroyed by crime and economic woes...that's just how people vote around here.
16 posted on 03/04/2008 7:07:34 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: Petronski

Ahh..nothing like winning.


17 posted on 03/04/2008 7:13:55 PM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3/Cry havoc and let slip the RINOS)
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To: padre35

Yeah, but the sore losers still have their panties in a wad about Dr. Paul and his actual Conservative, CONSTITUTIONAL positions. They need to get over it and get a life.


18 posted on 03/04/2008 8:01:55 PM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: Petronski
Still trying to send non-conforming conservatives off to the psikhushka, I see...
19 posted on 03/04/2008 8:07:45 PM PST by oblomov
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To: oblomov

As a big tent Republican, I see this as good news.


20 posted on 03/04/2008 8:13:23 PM PST by Zhang Fei
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To: oblomov

Still making wild-assed false personal attacks on fellow-Freepers, I see....


21 posted on 03/04/2008 8:27:05 PM PST by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: padre35
Ahh..nothing like winning.

The White House?



ROFLMAO

22 posted on 03/04/2008 8:28:34 PM PST by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: Petronski

what was personal about my so-called attack?


23 posted on 03/04/2008 8:30:03 PM PST by oblomov
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To: oblomov

Don’t be obtuse...no one else will notice.


24 posted on 03/04/2008 8:32:49 PM PST by Petronski (Nice job, Hillary. Now go home and get your shine box.)
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To: NoWayMcCain; anymouse

“Most overhyped failed congressional primary challenger ever.”

I’ll wait until the gravitically challenged estrogen enhanced person vocalizes, if it’s all the same to you.

But that said, I’m crossing my fingers I’ll get to see anymouse STFU about this little turd who wasted a ton of money attacking a good conservative instead of using that cash against a lefty. What a complete jackass Peden is.

I’d like to imagine his GOP resume is now toast, but we can be sure the TxRNC will now figure out some payoff to Peden for being their anti-Paul hitman. Maybe they’ll run him for Keeton Strayhorn Jingleheimer Schmidt’s job...would be an even trade, jackass for jackass.


25 posted on 03/04/2008 8:40:50 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (McCain is W with a DD-214 and a flash temper. Another 4 years of this mess--or worse? Hell, no!)
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To: Petronski

again, what was personal about my so-called attack?


26 posted on 03/04/2008 8:42:33 PM PST by oblomov
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To: LibertarianInExile

Just FYI, most of the GOP establishment as well as former Bush campaign staff were behind Chris Peden.

http://blog.case.edu/james.chang/2008/02/24/puppet_chris_peden_influenced_by_kathy_haigler
http://www.patrickruffini.com/2008/02/15/yes-we-can-give-ron-paul-the-boot

It seems to me like some GOPers are trying to purge the party of the anti-war conservatives, no matter what sort of crap candidate they intend as the replacement.

The RNC won’t get another dime from me. Only individual conservatives will.


27 posted on 03/04/2008 8:51:48 PM PST by oblomov
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To: oblomov

“It seems to me like some GOPers are trying to purge the party of the anti-war conservatives, no matter what sort of crap candidate they intend as the replacement. The RNC won’t get another dime from me. Only individual conservatives will.”

Easy enough to vote third party in the Presidential slot when the RINONC anoints a Dole-McCain-Ford type, easy enough to work for conservatives in the local races when you don’t have to worry about promoting the GOP’s standard bearer. With you 100%.


28 posted on 03/04/2008 9:16:15 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (McCain is W with a DD-214 and a flash temper. Another 4 years of this mess--or worse? Hell, no!)
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To: montag813

Agreed, I didn’t like him at all at first, but once I saw past his stance on Iraq I realized he was a real conservative, and that McCain/Romney/Huckabee/Giuliani were nothing but flip-flopping RINOs. Unfortunately Paul along with two other conservatives Thompson and Hunter all ended up as flat pancakes after the RINO bus drove through.


29 posted on 03/04/2008 10:53:11 PM PST by Santa Fe_Conservative (The RINOs think that they have won but we shall see who has the last laugh in '08...)
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To: oblomov

He hasn’t been re-elected, he has only won the primary.


30 posted on 03/04/2008 11:51:41 PM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: fortheDeclaration

It’s a “safe” Republican seat. Last time around, the Dems didn’t put up a sacrificial lamb to be beaten by Paul, and there’s no reason to expect they will run someone this time. If they do, that person will lose. Paul will be back in Congress.


31 posted on 03/05/2008 2:35:01 AM PST by publiusF27
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To: montag813

Me too. I think he is right about more stuff than he is wrong about.


32 posted on 03/05/2008 2:41:30 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: fortheDeclaration
He hasn’t been re-elected, he has only won the primary.

Paul is in.
If Peden would've won, then he would have run against Dem. Shane Sklar in the general election.

Sklar got beaten like a drum (61%-39%) last time in 2006 by Ron Paul, -- the same year the Republicans got hammered and lost the House and the Senate.
Ain't gonna happen.
Hate him or not, Paul has got it.

33 posted on 03/05/2008 3:06:47 AM PST by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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To: publiusF27
t’s a “safe” Republican seat. Last time around, the Dems didn’t put up a sacrificial lamb to be beaten by Paul,

Actually, it's not.
Democrat Greg Laughlin had it in 1994, and then flipped to the Republican side. Newt Gingrich & Gov. George W. Bush campaigned hard for Laughlin in 1996. ... but Paul won.

Ron Paul ran unopposed in 2004. But went against Dem. Shane Sklar in 2006. (61%-39% -- winner again, Paul)

34 posted on 03/05/2008 3:22:47 AM PST by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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To: dread78645
Paul is in. If Peden would've won, then he would have run against Dem. Shane Sklar in the general election. Sklar got beaten like a drum (61%-39%) last time in 2006 by Ron Paul, -- the same year the Republicans got hammered and lost the House and the Senate. Ain't gonna happen. Hate him or not, Paul has got it.

I am a Ron Paul supporter and do not doubt that he will win the General election, but he only won a primary last night, he wasn't re-elected.

35 posted on 03/05/2008 3:35:23 AM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: publiusF27
It’s a “safe” Republican seat. Last time around, the Dems didn’t put up a sacrificial lamb to be beaten by Paul, and there’s no reason to expect they will run someone this time. If they do, that person will lose. Paul will be back in Congress.

I am sure that is true, but he hadn't been elected, he had won a primary.

You can say that because he won the primary, his re-election is assured.

36 posted on 03/05/2008 3:37:26 AM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Blue on blue.
Sorry.
37 posted on 03/05/2008 4:02:17 AM PST by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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To: dread78645

That’s right, I had forgotten about that Sklar guy. Didn’t Laughlin switch parties in response to redrawing the district and cutting out D sections?


38 posted on 03/05/2008 5:22:39 AM PST by publiusF27
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To: montag813
"I will admit I have grown to like Ron Paul over the course of this campaign, after ridiculing him in the beginning. His views on fiscal conservatism and the failure of the profligate Federal Reserve have been spot on."

I'm glad you have come around.

If only he had posited a slightly modified stance on invading other countries, he might have won the nomination.

Ron Paul OWNED all the other issues, some of which FReepers claimed were "non-negotiable" in the beginning.

How many times at the start did we read about abortion was absolutely #1?

Or what ever happened to thf issue of illegal invasion and our wide-open borders? Tom Tancredo and Duncan Hunter, even though they were only one-issue candidates, had a very good one.

Then many times here we read about various other issues, such as; gun (NOT) control, jobs moving offshore, inflation, the up-coming North American Union, and more.

I find it extremely informative regarding the makeup of the Republican Party that none of those seem to matter anymore.

Instead, we have somehow morphed into being terrified of some turd-world rag-heads with a death wish of their own.

Since when does the world's "only remaing super-power" run scared $hi#L@@$ from some crazed lunatics who can't master 20th century technology, and can't even run their own countries?

Oh, well, we can at least say we tried.

39 posted on 03/05/2008 6:05:05 AM PST by Designer
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To: M203M4

That was my question exactly. What a waste of time and money going after the most consistent small-government advocate in DC.

What was Peden thinking? moron.


40 posted on 03/05/2008 6:08:29 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Member of the irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.)
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative

Please see my #39. Thanks.


41 posted on 03/05/2008 6:10:00 AM PST by Designer
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To: ovrtaxt
"What was Peden thinking?"

I can't speak for Peden, but IMO, he had some supporters who simply wanted Ron Paul out.

42 posted on 03/05/2008 6:11:47 AM PST by Designer
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To: Designer
Instead, we have somehow morphed into being terrified of some turd-world rag-heads with a death wish of their own.

That morphing is all part of the globalist plan. The otherwise good conservatives who go along with it are just useful idiots of the near-left.

Yeah, that's right. You Paul bashers heard me right.

43 posted on 03/05/2008 6:13:23 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Member of the irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.)
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"That morphing is all part of the globalist plan. The otherwise good conservatives who go along with it are just useful idiots of the near-left."

Bump for that!

44 posted on 03/05/2008 6:31:59 AM PST by Designer
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To: ovrtaxt; Designer

I have been sickened by the willingness of the GOP to jetisson almost every other issue just to maintain an appearance of party unity on the issue of the war. I’m not anti-war, but I think it’s a reasonable and honorable position for a conservative to take.

The garrison state is a necessary part of the welfare state. As a conservative, I’m against solving problems by central planning and brute force. A military action to depose some tinpot dictator may be necessary, but wars for democracy or other abstract ideals are exactly what the Founders counseled against. We don’t need wars on radical Islam anymore than we need wars on drugs or poverty.

One of the greatest crises facing us is the steady erosion of our liberties. If we make this country into one not worth defending, then what’s the point of any war?


45 posted on 03/05/2008 8:12:17 AM PST by oblomov
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To: oblomov; mnehrling; CJ Wolf; Extremely Extreme Extremist

Hmm, I wonder why mnehrling didn’t post this sooner. I mean he was so quick with Peden boosting threads when he thought Peden would blow Paul out of the water . . .


46 posted on 03/05/2008 9:42:07 AM PST by ksen (Don't steal. The government hates the competition. - sign on Ron Paul's desk)
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To: oblomov

It’s Orwellian.

Like you, I understand the nature of radical Islam- but to use it as a wedge issue which divides us from our Constitution, no way.


47 posted on 03/05/2008 9:43:01 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Member of the irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.)
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To: oblomov

Bump for being against war for the sake of war.


48 posted on 03/05/2008 9:47:44 AM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative
Ron Paul's campaign for President was seriously inept for all his success in raising funds. (Where did all that money go anyway?) The fact is that the WOT is mostly supported by the Republican electorate, who are the ones who vote in Republican primaries. With Obama holding antiwar views and being a charismatic figure, Paul's hope of crossover voters were dashed. It was therefore foolish for him to emphasize his opposition to the Iraq and Afghan wars. Additionally, many, if not most, conservative voters are far more dependent on conservative talkers and web sites for news than they are on the MSM. His antiwar emphasis did not play well, from moderate conservatives like Michael Medved or The Weekly Standard to old line Goldwater-Reagan conservatives like Joseph Farah or Phyllis Schlafly. His lack of public religiosity was a negative in the eyes of the Christian Right and their media outlets like Focus on the Family and The 700 Club. It was from these sources, rather than the MSM, that the smears about his alleged racism and anti-Semitism were largely generated.

In the end, it was not the MSM that did Paul in, but the hostility of the conservative secular and religious media combined with his campaign's failure to emphasize those areas, such as limiting the powers of the Feds and restoring economic freedom, where he was far better than most of the rest of the field.

49 posted on 03/05/2008 9:58:48 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: ksen

lol, Penden who?


50 posted on 03/05/2008 10:22:11 AM PST by CJ Wolf (The Ron Paul - Let Freedom Ping list - freepmail me to be on it.)
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