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Russian bomber again intercepted near U.S. Navy ship
Reuters ^ | Mar 5, 2008

Posted on 03/05/2008 5:30:17 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A Russian bomber aircraft approached a U.S. aircraft carrier off the Korean coast on Wednesday and was intercepted by American fighter jets -- the second such incident in less than a month, U.S. defense officials said.

According to the U.S. officials, a Russian bomber came within three to five nautical miles and flew 2,000 feet (610 meters) above the USS Nimitz aircraft carrier and its accompanying ships.

Two U.S. F/A-18 fighters were launched to intercept the Russian aircraft and escort it out of the area, according to one defense official.

Russian bombers over the past year have increased their flights near U.S. territory and U.S. naval assets, demonstrating their long-range strike capability.

In February, two Russian bombers approached the Nimitz near Japan and one flew over the carrier, escorted by a U.S. fighter jet. That was the first Russian overflight of a U.S. carrier since 2004.

Those operations come as Russian officials say they will revive some of the military power and reach allowed to collapse with the Soviet Union.

U.S. defense officials on Wednesday said they did not consider the Russian bomber flight a threat or concern.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: coldwar2; navair; russia; russianmilitary; sovietunion; usnavy; ussnimitz
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1 posted on 03/05/2008 5:30:19 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
U.S. defense officials on Wednesday said they did not consider the Russian bomber flight a threat or concern.

But could they please ask for permission next time? /sarc

2 posted on 03/05/2008 5:33:44 PM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald ("We're going to drag that ship over the mountain.")
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To: Tailgunner Joe

WTF? Bush better teach them how unacceptable this is before McCain or Hillary gets in.


3 posted on 03/05/2008 5:37:44 PM PST by Slump Tester (Only CINOs and democRATs knowingly and willingly vote for RINOs!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

We were doing this stuff 50 years ago over the Arctic. No big deal. Its just gamesmanship. Russia trying to reassert itself while we are bogged down in the ME and with elections.


4 posted on 03/05/2008 5:38:23 PM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: Don Corleone

Bogged down????


5 posted on 03/05/2008 5:39:56 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy

It’s a quagmire, man. Totally Bush’s fault!


6 posted on 03/05/2008 5:42:35 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Lock weapons on them!

Give ‘em a bit of a scare!


7 posted on 03/05/2008 5:43:34 PM PST by airborne (For ENGLISH, press '1' . For SPANISH, hang up and learn ENGLISH!)
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To: Slump Tester

You may not be aware of this, but these types of flybys have been going on for decades, and really are standard operating procedure, like it or not. Additionally, if you have a ship in International Waters you do not have exclusive rights to the airspace above or around your ships.


8 posted on 03/05/2008 5:54:10 PM PST by SlapHappyPappy
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“U.S. defense officials on Wednesday said they did not consider the Russian bomber flight a threat or concern.”

..... as they slap up a map to point and advise “we could have shot them down here, and here, and here, and here, and here.......”


9 posted on 03/05/2008 5:56:22 PM PST by Lovebloggers
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To: Slump Tester

A Vought F-8J Crusader of fighter squadron VF-194 Red Lightnings intercepts a Soviet Tupolev Tu-95 Bear-A/B reconnaissance aircraft near the aircraft carrier USS Oriskany (CVA-34) (steaming below) on 25 May 1974. VF-194 was assigned to Attack Carrier Air Wing Nineteen (CVW-19).

10 posted on 03/05/2008 6:03:30 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: magslinger

Ping.


11 posted on 03/05/2008 6:12:24 PM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Checkmate Cruiser")
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To: A.A. Cunningham

F-8 Crusader was about the best looking jet fighter the US Navy ever had—or any that the Air Force had. Great looking airplane. Damn thing just LOOKED like a fighter, unlike the F-4, which looked like a Goose.


12 posted on 03/05/2008 6:13:15 PM PST by LSUfan
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To: LSUfan

To me, an A-7 never looked like it would fly sitting on the ground. Much less carry the huge bomb load it did!


13 posted on 03/05/2008 6:17:02 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: LSUfan

I have to dissagree.My favorite navy Jet would have been the A-4 Skyhawk.A little bird that packed a lot of power.

My Air Force Jet would be the F-16.That jet can dog fight like no other aircraft.

Im Partial since I served In the Air Force but I loved that SkyHawk


14 posted on 03/05/2008 6:18:12 PM PST by puppypusher (The world is going to the dogs.)
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To: SlapHappyPappy

I know we do this to them too, but 2000 feet from the Nimitz? I didn’t know we left them get that close. Or are they saying 3-4 miles away at 2000 feet?


15 posted on 03/05/2008 6:18:30 PM PST by Slump Tester (Only CINOs and democRATs knowingly and willingly vote for RINOs!)
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To: Slump Tester
WTF? Bush better teach them how unacceptable this is before McCain or Hillary gets in.

Are you nuts? This is perfectly acceptable. It is a ship in international waters. If there is a problem then it will be a problem when we overfly THEIR ships in international waters. And believe you me, we fly over their ships far more than they fly over ours.

16 posted on 03/05/2008 6:18:44 PM PST by FreedomCalls (Texas: "We close at five.")
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To: LSUfan

What about the P-51, or P-38?


17 posted on 03/05/2008 6:20:28 PM PST by wastedyears (Iron Maiden in two weeks' time.)
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To: Slump Tester

I think the altitude was 2000ft.


18 posted on 03/05/2008 6:21:33 PM PST by wastedyears (Iron Maiden in two weeks' time.)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
A Russian bomber aircraft approached a U.S. aircraft carrier [USS Nimitz] off the Korean coast on Wednesday and was intercepted by American fighter jets -- the second such incident in less than a month, U.S. defense officials said.

ping!

19 posted on 03/05/2008 6:21:52 PM PST by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I think one of our anti-aircraft missiles ought to do a final flyby on one of those bombers. That’ll get their attention...


20 posted on 03/05/2008 6:30:18 PM PST by Secret Agent Man
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To: LSUfan

NO... NO... NO!!!!

F-14 TOMCAT... best damn navy fighter ever to see service!

TOMCAT, TOMCAT, TOMCAT!!! WE BE TOMCATTIN’, BABY! YEAH!


21 posted on 03/05/2008 6:30:19 PM PST by RTO (Salve Regina, ora pro nobis!)
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To: wastedyears

Lockheed P-38 Lightning and North American P-51D Mustang... Ooooooh... better than sex... almost.


22 posted on 03/05/2008 6:33:12 PM PST by RTO (Salve Regina, ora pro nobis!)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
Does this work?

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23 posted on 03/05/2008 6:33:36 PM PST by gorush (Exterminate the Moops!)
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To: Vroomfondel; SC Swamp Fox; Fred Hayek; NY Attitude; P3_Acoustic; Bean Counter; investigateworld; ...
SONOBUOY PING!

Click on pic for past Navair pings.

Post or FReepmail me if you wish to be enlisted in or discharged from the Navair Pinglist.
This is a medium to low volume pinglist.

24 posted on 03/05/2008 6:35:25 PM PST by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
This type of thing is the essence of Russian roullete.
25 posted on 03/05/2008 6:36:18 PM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald ("We're going to drag that ship over the mountain.")
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To: gorush
I still get the shivvers when I hear a P 51 even if is 10 miles away. That thing looked and flew like a plane is supposed to. In other words it had charisma
26 posted on 03/05/2008 6:40:16 PM PST by BooBoo1000 (Some times I wake up grumpy, other times I let her sleep/)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Our so-called friends.

Bush looks like an ever bigger fool as the days pass.

Russians are hopeless.


27 posted on 03/05/2008 6:55:37 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (Dems will impeach Bush in 2008, they have nothing else. Mark my words.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Maverick in TOP GUN needs to give them the finger at a distance of 3 meters.


28 posted on 03/05/2008 6:56:58 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (Dems will impeach Bush in 2008, they have nothing else. Mark my words.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

If we put the mullahs in Iran down, Russia will back off.


29 posted on 03/05/2008 6:57:56 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

I remember seeing one escorted by F-4’s flying over the ship I was on at the time (USS Chicago, CG-11), about 1976.


30 posted on 03/05/2008 6:58:10 PM PST by shorty_harris
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To: LSUfan
"F-8 Crusader was about the best looking jet fighter the US Navy ever had—or any that the Air Force had. Great looking airplane. Damn thing just LOOKED like a fighter, unlike the F-4, which looked like a Goose.

Sorry friend, but I beg to differ. The F-102 was not exactly shabby and quite beautiful, if deadly looking.

Of course having served in the USAF for 8 years, I'm kind of prejudice.

BTW, this is the plane that W flew in the guards.

pr-f102c

31 posted on 03/05/2008 7:04:58 PM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet (One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All)
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To: airborne
Going into radar lock on another airplane is considered the same as shooting at them and is justification to shoot back. However having your wingman hang back in their six with a Sidewinder under the pickle while you escort the intruder is perfectly acceptable practice
32 posted on 03/05/2008 7:12:10 PM PST by Starwolf (I rode to work today, did you?)
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To: Starwolf

When playing cat and mouse, it’s standard for the cat to swat the mouse from time to time. ;^)


33 posted on 03/05/2008 7:13:48 PM PST by airborne (For ENGLISH, press '1' . For SPANISH, hang up and learn ENGLISH!)
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To: Slump Tester

this is perfectly legal (international airspace).. Ask anyone who was in the navy during the cold war - hoopefully someof them will join this thread to offer some sanity. These threads get very reactionary, but in fact this was a normal part of daily life in for both Navies for decades.


34 posted on 03/05/2008 7:20:07 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: wastedyears
Now you are talking real airplanes.
35 posted on 03/05/2008 7:22:32 PM PST by ANGGAPO (LayteGulf BeachClub)
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To: sam_paine

The A7 is without a doubt the frigg’n LOUDEST fighter jet ever invented.

my sub was directly in the flight path of those damn things in Norfolk NAS.

hate those planes.


36 posted on 03/05/2008 7:24:14 PM PST by Hammerhead
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Those interceptors were a mere courtesy. The Pickets were trained on the Bears just for practice.


37 posted on 03/05/2008 7:25:09 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul politicians. The Ship of State needs a good scrubbing!)
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To: sam_paine

nevermind,...Im thinking A6


38 posted on 03/05/2008 7:25:53 PM PST by Hammerhead
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To: Slump Tester

We allow them, and are required to allow them, as close as they want, as long as we are in territorial waters.


39 posted on 03/05/2008 7:39:15 PM PST by SlapHappyPappy
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To: nicmarlo

~~~Navy.mil. ,,,;0)
Ships and Submarines
Deployable Battle Force Ships: 280

Ships Underway (away from homeport): 138 ships (49% of total)

On deployment: 97 ships (35% of total)

Attack submarines underway (away from homeport): 29 submarines (53%)

On deployment: 18 submarines (33%)
Ships Underway

Carriers:
USS Kitty Hawk (CV 63) - Pacific Ocean
USS Nimitz (CVN 68) - Sea of Japan
USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN 71) - Atlantic Ocean
USS George Washington (CVN 73) - Atlantic Ocean
USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75) - 5th Fleet

Amphibious Warfare Ships:
USS Nassau (LHA 4) - 6th Fleet
USS Essex (LHD 2) - Philippine Sea
USS Kearsarge (LHD 3) - Atlantic Ocean
USS Bonhomme Richard (LHD 6) - Pacific Ocean
USS Iwo Jima (LHD 7) - Atlantic Ocean

Tarawa Expeditionary Strike Group:
USS Tarawa (LHA 1) - 5th Fleet

Aircraft (operational): 3700+


40 posted on 03/05/2008 7:43:05 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: shorty_harris

Used to work with a guy who worked on the TALOS aboard the Chicago around the same time.


41 posted on 03/05/2008 7:53:44 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: SlapHappyPappy
Additionally, if you have a ship in International Waters you do not have exclusive rights to the airspace above or around your ships.

If you can defend it, you do.

42 posted on 03/05/2008 7:57:57 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: AFreeBird

I meant to say international.


43 posted on 03/05/2008 8:05:44 PM PST by SlapHappyPappy
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To: A.A. Cunningham
I think the Chicago shot down a MiG with a TALOS during Vietnam. I remember the loading tracks ran right through the mess decks.

I was part of the Helicopter detachment (not ships company).

44 posted on 03/05/2008 8:15:30 PM PST by shorty_harris
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To: wastedyears; ANGGAPO; RTO

The P38 was my Dad’s favorite aircraft of all times for one very practical reason: “When you saw one of those twin boomed beauties, you knew every other airplane in the air was American”.


45 posted on 03/06/2008 2:57:07 AM PST by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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To: Hammerhead
nevermind,...Im thinking A6

Rummlin Grummans!

46 posted on 03/06/2008 7:02:32 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The next thing Putin will do is to send 2 TU-95 Bears flying down the East coast and have them land in Cuba, as they did during the Cold War, then continue their flight to visit their new friend in Venezuela, Loco Chavez.

If you want to have a view of how life was in a Soviet Bear airbase, read “BEAR, Flight to Liberty,” a novel about how the crew of one of those giants planned and effected their escape from the USSR to Canada in August 1976. You can get it from amazon.com or barnesandnoble.com


47 posted on 03/06/2008 7:23:30 AM PST by Kurchatov324 (THE COLD WAR IS FREEZING AGAIN?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

We found them all the time but couldn’t catch them in our P-3B (the Bear is 100 knots faster and can fly 10,000 feet higher. On the downside, the Bear makes most crew go deaf, so there!).


48 posted on 03/06/2008 8:18:14 AM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice

As long as the Bear has been in use and all the noise (and vibration) I’ve always heard about, a suspicious mind would wonder about metal fatigue in those birds. Not that the Russians would tell anybody if it did begin to crop up.


49 posted on 03/06/2008 8:41:26 AM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet (Down with the Kakistocracy)
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To: Kurchatov324

The book is a work of fiction. No Bear and its crew actually defected to Canada.


50 posted on 03/06/2008 12:04:29 PM PST by Tommyjo
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