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To: lentulusgracchus
There was no rebellion. But, you knew that.

Yes there was. Southern states. April 1861 to mid-1865. How could you miss it? It was in all the papers.

123 posted on 03/11/2008 3:57:40 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Yes there was. Southern states.

Free States don't rebel. Or if they do, tell me who was their Master. You?

127 posted on 03/11/2008 3:21:49 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Non-Sequitur

“Yes there was. Southern states. April 1861 to mid-1865. How could you miss it? It was in all the papers.”

Actually, in the classic sense it was NOT a rebellion, as they did not try to resist or overthrow the existing government or authority. They never tried to overthrow Lincoln’s Administration (in fact, when some Confederate officers wanted to march on Washington after the first Bull Run, and even later, they were rebuffed by their leaders, who admonished them that the goal of secession was not to conquer the North or overthrow and replace its government, but for the Confederacy to be its own independent and sovereign nation, even capable of being on good terms with the North, which the Confederacy expected would retain the name of the United States of America). What the South wanted, and what it accomplished, was a clean and simple divorce. The divorce did not get messy until April, 1861 in Charleston harbor. There never would have been a Civil War if Lincoln had ordered Anderson at Sumpter to evacuate the fort (which was also the main tariff collecting center for Charleston Harbor before the War). Other Union forces in the South either gave up their posts and returned north, or headed out west or joined the Confederates. The Confederacy, understandably, did not want foreign troops on its soil. When foreign (Union) troops refused to leave, they were fired upon. Licoln made hostilities inevitable by trying to poke the South in the eye at Sumpter. Lincoln wanted a fight, because he wanted to punish the Confederacy and wanted to force the seceding states back into the Union. Remember, there were still four states that had not seceded and joined the Confederacy by the time of Sumpter, but Lincoln’s provocation at Sumpter, and his call up of troops, made up their minds for them, and they seceded. Those states were Virginia, Tennessee, North Carolina, and Arkansas. I don’t mention either Kentucky or Missouri, because, although they voted to secede after Sumpter and the call-up, they never actually did secede.


135 posted on 03/11/2008 6:33:10 PM PDT by ought-six
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