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1 posted on 03/06/2008 3:20:55 PM PST by jdm
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2 posted on 03/06/2008 3:21:05 PM PST by jdm (Contrary to popular belief, the search function works just fine.)
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Abusive and ignorant parents, who are poor teachers, give homeschoolers like myself and others a bad reputation.


4 posted on 03/06/2008 3:24:45 PM PST by SatinDoll (Desperately seeking a conservative candidate.)
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I’m not a lawyer, but it appears to me that homeschooling should not be “imperiled” in Cali or any state.

“PIERCE v. SOCIETY OF THE SISTERS...”
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=268&invol=510

“”the liberty of parents and guardians to direct the upbringing and education of children [268 U.S. 510, 535]” (FindLaw)


6 posted on 03/06/2008 3:24:56 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: jdm

This guy is saying that homeschooling is not in danger but when he talks about it, it is in danger. My grandaughter is home schooled through a charter school, is her mother now in danger of being “re-educated” as the judges who made this ruling stated? I think the state needs to get out of the education business and let parents decide who shall educate their children. State education, especially in CA, means indoctrination into liberal beliefs.


7 posted on 03/06/2008 3:32:33 PM PST by calex59
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To: jdm

I have voiced questions about this ruling before, specifically related to why the ruling only seemed to apply to two of the (at least) three children being home schooled in their home.

Thank you very much for this.


10 posted on 03/06/2008 3:40:12 PM PST by mountainbunny
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Actually, if you care about your kids, if you care about your grand-kids, get them out of public school. Do not let the public schools anywhere near them.

You are crazy to put your kids into the care of people who hold you and everything you believe in, in so much contempt.

Building a network of private schools should be priority one for churches here. And, to be fair, a lot of them are doing it. What is the point of evangelizing people far away if you lose your own kids in the process?

This is just the beginning. As the Left gains in confidence, they will make it increasingly painful to oppose them.


11 posted on 03/06/2008 3:42:33 PM PST by marron
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...................mothers' teaching was “lousy,” “meager,” and “bad,”...............

So. he is running a public school?

12 posted on 03/06/2008 3:46:39 PM PST by purpleraine
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To: jdm

Sad that dramatic news about loss of liberty tends to mask news about loss of liberty.


15 posted on 03/06/2008 4:03:02 PM PST by Gene Eric
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“lousy,” “meager,” and “bad,”....

describes the teaching at my public school. How about hauling parents in who let their kids go THERE?

I am not being serious, and I do not condemn any FReeper who sends his child to public school. That is YOUR business, they are your kids, do what you think is best.

My point is, suppose 1/3 of home school kids never graduated high school, suppose home schooled kids had the highest suicide rate vis a vis private and public school kids, had the lowest college acceptance rate, had the lowest standardized test scores, had high drug abuse rates, had chronic problems with teachers having sex with students, had high vandalism rates, had the highest teen pregnancy rate, had the highest illiteracy rates, had the highest gang membership rates, had the highest percentage of kids incarcerated? Home schooling would be made illegal!

Yet all the above statements apply to our California public schools!

And parents are supposed to quit home schooling and put there kids into that cesspool!

“Day of Silence,” anyone?


16 posted on 03/06/2008 4:05:21 PM PST by Marie2 (I used to be disgusted. . .now I try to be amused.)
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"To be a private school in California, all the parent has to do is be "capable of teaching" the required subjects...

It's going to be very interesting again in California and in other states.

The anti-homeschooling efforts are not only supported by teachers' and homosexual activist groups. Think a little more about why some people might want public school curriculums to be as they are. There's more.
17 posted on 03/06/2008 4:10:14 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To be a private school in California, all the parent has to do is be "capable of teaching" the required subjects in the English language and offer instruction in the same "branches of study" required to be taught in the public schools. They also have to keep a register of enrollment at their "school" and a record of attendance. Once a year they have to file an affidavit with the State Superintendent of Public Instruction with things like their names and address, the names of the students and their addresses, a criminal background check (since we don't want unsupervised felons teaching kids), and their attendance register. That's it.

That's all!!!

YGBSM! And please note, you have to be able to convince the State that you are running a private school, and that you are 'qualified' to teach there...

Glad I left California!

20 posted on 03/06/2008 4:25:40 PM PST by Mr Rogers (Let's win Congress - the Presidency is lost!)
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To be a private school in California, all the parent has to do is be "capable of teaching" the required subjects in the English language and offer instruction in the same "branches of study" required to be taught in the public schools. They also have to keep a register of enrollment at their "school" and a record of attendance. Once a year they have to file an affidavit with the State Superintendent of Public Instruction with things like their names and address, the names of the students and their addresses, a criminal background check (since we don't want unsupervised felons teaching kids), and their attendance register. That's it.

At least part of the California code concerning the qualification of a homeschool teacher is as follows.

48224. Children not attending a private, full-time, day school and who are being instructed in study and recitation for at least three hours a day for 175 days each calendar year by a private tutor or other person in the several branches of study required to be taught in the public schools of this state and in the English language shall be exempted. The tutor or other person shall hold a valid state credential for the grade taught. (emphasis mine) The instruction shall be offered between the hours of 8 o'clock a.m. and 4 o'clock p.m.
Friendly question, are you saying that your comment about what a parent is required to do to homeschool children in California satisfies § 48224? Your statement sounds oversimplified concerning § 48224, particularly with respect to the part about a valid credential for the grade taught.
21 posted on 03/06/2008 4:26:12 PM PST by Amendment10
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Yes, we need more splendid products of government schools, such as these.
23 posted on 03/06/2008 4:34:45 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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There should be no public education. Private enterprises should be allowed to competitively bid for education contracts to do the same thing - and continue to compete. Imagine how lucrative it could be for private companies to be given a shot at even a fraction of state and federal budgets for education and how much BETTER a job would be done. Entrepreneurial genius and resourcefulness would chase those billions and turn out unprecedented results in classrooms in order to obtain and keep contracts.

And to be rid of the teachers’ lobby!


25 posted on 03/06/2008 4:51:25 PM PST by fire and forget
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Perhaps you need to check this thread instead of continuing to claim California is outlawing homeschooling.


28 posted on 03/06/2008 5:00:34 PM PST by gracesdad
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In the interest of full disclosure, are you posting your own blog? Are you an attorney or do you play one on TV?


29 posted on 03/06/2008 5:06:15 PM PST by don-o (My son, Ben, reports to Parris Island on June 30.)
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The author contends that outrage is not warranted because the L.A. Times misinterpreted the Judge’s decision. The author notes that the parents in question could have registered their homeschool arrangement as a private school and filled out a few forms in order to be in compliance with State law.

But what the judge said regarded the “ruse of enrolling [children] in a private school and then letting them stay home and be taught by a non-credentialed parent.”

This phrasing is hardly comforting to those, like the author, who believe that filling out a few forms would placate the judge. Filling out those forms to create a “private school” out of thin air would be just the sort of thing a judge like this would declare a ruse.

A measure of outrage is entirely warranted, IMHO.


30 posted on 03/06/2008 5:08:27 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([Fred Thompson/Clarence Thomas 2008!])
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44 posted on 03/06/2008 5:48:17 PM PST by Cailleach
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The parents in this case lost because they claimed that the students were enrolled in a charter school and that with minimal supervision from the school, the children were free to skip classes so the mother could teach them at home.

OK. Hold up a minute.

Let's say a kid gets sick and will be out of school for a month or two. (as happened to my daughter) The school sends the work home and the kid does the work *under the supervision of the parent* who turns it in for the kid.

This is not a terribly unusual situation. What would be wrong with the parents supervising the course-work if the school's OK with it?

The big question is this: What business does a judge have in this situation anyway? If the school is cool with it, the parents are doing alright and the kids are receiving an education, who cares??

47 posted on 03/06/2008 8:27:02 PM PST by Marie (Why is it that some people believe everything that happens is the will of G-d - except Israel?)
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51 posted on 03/06/2008 9:04:04 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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