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To: calex59
How about we just get pissed off enough to tell the greenies enough is enough and drill for our own oil and take advantage of nuke power and also do what we can with oil shale. Seems like a better alternative than fighting some other country for what we already have right here if we would just hunt for it and utilize it, instead of letting enviros call the every turn.

That's not a bad concept although there are definite strategic advantages to using up Middle Eastern oil reserves before turning to our own. In addition, seizing those reserves means that the Islamofascists are denied the benefits of all that petro-revenue.

Contrary to what one poster suggested, this isn't really about 'stealing' anything, it is about positive, preemptive action in taking control of a strategic asset that needs to be in U.S. hands, as opposed to potential enemy hands. Nobody is suggesting that appropriate compensation would not be made to the *people* of those regions who would rightly expect a fair (not a wildly inflated) price for their oil. If (hypothetically) we were talking about vast underground reserves of weapons grade plutonium, we would have already seized that material decades ago rather than allow potential enemies to acquire it.

Vastly inflated prices for oil provide enhanced funding for terrorism. There is no difference, the principle is the same.
48 posted on 03/08/2008 3:55:09 AM PST by mkjessup (Famous 'Rat Initials: FDR, HST, JFK, LBJ .... to be followed by *B.O.* ?!? - I don't think so!! LOL)
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To: mkjessup
Contrary to what one poster suggested, this isn't really about 'stealing' anything, it is about positive, preemptive action in taking control of a strategic asset that needs to be in U.S. hands, as opposed to potential enemy hands.

It is always easy to justify taking something that doesn't belong to you and calling it a moral act. Hitler did this in Germany, Japan did it in china and the pacific, and other dictators in the past have used this same strategy. The truth is, the oil is in muslim ground, it doesn't matter who found it in the first place, it is theirs by right of ownership, if you believe in property, and you should if you are a conservative, then you must know it is their oil to do with as they will.

We have no moral or absolute right to their oil, except if we pay for it, IF they wish to sell it to us. Forcing them to sell and saying that they will be compensated is stealing, just as imminent domain is stealing. Solving our energy crisis is easy, if we have to guts to vote conservative and force the government to change the idiotic enviro laws we have been saddled with in regards to nukes, drilling for oil and other energy wasting laws. Stealing from the muslims is not a solution, and such an act would make us just what the liberals have been calling us for years.

56 posted on 03/08/2008 7:04:12 AM PST by calex59
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