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Will Fed Try Something New to Aid Markets?
Wall Street Journal ^ | 10 March 2008 | DAVID WESSEL

Posted on 03/10/2008 6:15:48 PM PDT by shrinkermd

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To: Toddsterpatriot
Ah. More than I know, then...
41 posted on 03/10/2008 7:27:25 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: JasonC

All excellent suggestions!


42 posted on 03/10/2008 7:27:27 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: milwguy
Simultaneously he should declare Venezuela a sate sponsor or terrorism and stop importing their oil.

You would pay $5.00 a gallon the next morning, minimum.

43 posted on 03/10/2008 7:28:08 PM PDT by montag813
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Correct, that is because companies like Carlyle Group took their 645 million in assets and leveraged it into 21.7 BILLION in mortgage backed securities. NOw the crap they bought is worthless because the mortgages backing it are no doc, subprime, alt A or just plain fraudulent. They are getting margin calls and want to be bailed out. When they were aming money hand over fist with the same leverage, I don’t recall them complaining. The gov’t had a roll to play in preventing this kind of expansion in credit which Von Mises warned about 75 years ago. Apparently Greenspan and Co never read Von Mises, or didn’t believe him. We are paying the price of their folly.

One more point. Technology is making this happen at a speed which would have been unimaginable even a generation ago. We are facing a car wreck at 100 mph here and no one knows what to do.


44 posted on 03/10/2008 7:28:29 PM PDT by milwguy (........)
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To: milwguy
Worry about "down the road" when you know there will be one, please.
45 posted on 03/10/2008 7:28:59 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: montag813

You are right about Goldman, they were about the only one who did not drink CDO Kool Aid


46 posted on 03/10/2008 7:29:56 PM PDT by milwguy (........)
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To: milwguy
Then he should open the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to replace the 2 mil bbls a day from Venezuela

We have only 11 months worth at that rate.

47 posted on 03/10/2008 7:30:40 PM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813

Not if you tell the world you will use the strategic petroleum reserve to replace the oil from Venezuela. In six months Hugo will be gone and we will buy their oil again.


48 posted on 03/10/2008 7:31:01 PM PDT by milwguy (........)
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To: milwguy
Fed cuts rates but mortgage rates are rising, why do yo uthink that is? Manipulated spread actions to benefit the investment banks. 10-year note at 4 year high while 30-year is stagnant.
49 posted on 03/10/2008 7:32:07 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Travis McGee
"If the credit expansion is not stopped in time, the boom turns into the crack-up boom; the flight into real values begins, and the whole monetary system founders."~~Ludwig von Mises

That is well underway.

50 posted on 03/10/2008 7:33:14 PM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813

sorry we only import 15 mil bbls and I think we have 698 million bbls so roughly two years supply. Hugo will be gone long before then.


51 posted on 03/10/2008 7:35:08 PM PDT by milwguy (........)
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To: milwguy

oops 1.5 mil for Venezuela


52 posted on 03/10/2008 7:35:46 PM PDT by milwguy (........)
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To: JasonC
(20) to hell with the cost.

Please run for public office. If you can speak as well as you think, you will go very far.

53 posted on 03/10/2008 7:35:49 PM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813

Anyone who thinks our markets are hurting look at the Nikkei 225. It is down by 1/3 in the last year. makes our less than 20% trim seem tame by comaprison.


54 posted on 03/10/2008 7:38:21 PM PDT by milwguy (........)
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To: milwguy
sorry we only import 15 mil bbls and I think we have 698 million bbls so roughly two years supply. Hugo will be gone long before then.

No one has the balls to do what any of you fine people have proscribed. So alas we are forced to watch as if from a lifeboat of the H.M.S. Titanic, powerless to save our country from this needless calamity.

55 posted on 03/10/2008 7:38:49 PM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813

and the band played on as the mighty ocean liner slipped beneath the waves. That is the feeling i get lately, about the economy, about Global Warming, about our energy policy, about our country.


56 posted on 03/10/2008 7:41:33 PM PDT by milwguy (........)
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To: peeps36
[Government is destroying our economy.  America is in debt up to its eyeballs but it thinks it can borrow and spend its way to prosperity.]
 
 
 
 

Fortunately, Congressman Ron Paul has introduced legislation to restore financial stability to America's economy by abolishing the Federal Reserve.

Click here to contact your congressional representative and ask him/her to co-sponsor H.R. 2755.

 

57 posted on 03/10/2008 7:44:16 PM PDT by Etoo (I regret that I have but one screen name to sacrifice for my country.)
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To: Moonman62

“Do you think raising interest rates to slow the economy and then getting a slow economy is a free market?”

Do you think lowering interest rates to cause the subprime debacle, then raising them, then lowering them to cure the subprime debacle, sounds like anything but lunacy? A sound money requires fixed rules, not monkey boy games by the Fed.


58 posted on 03/10/2008 7:49:03 PM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: montag813
[ Where does this come from exactly? The Chinese bond buyers?]
 
 

The Weimar Money MachineTM.**

**Batteries and Wheelbarrow not included
 
 
 

Fortunately, Congressman Ron Paul has introduced legislation to restore financial stability to America's economy by abolishing the Federal Reserve.

Click here to contact your congressional representative and ask him/her to co-sponsor H.R. 2755.

 

59 posted on 03/10/2008 7:49:22 PM PDT by Etoo (I regret that I have but one screen name to sacrifice for my country.)
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To: JasonC
He did encourage investment and innovation, he cut tax rates and especially sharply on capital gains and corporate dividends.

The only part of that tax cut W did was the dividend cuts. An good idea which had been floating around Republican circles for decades. The rest was authored by former congressman Bill Thomas. W at that time sent Ari Fleischer out twice to say he was adamantly opposed to capital gains tax cuts. W's previous two demand side tax cuts designed to "put money in the hands of consumers" were total failures. Perhaps that's because we were in the middle of a historic decline in business spending while consumer spending was holding up well. W did his tax cuts for political reasons not economic ones. As far as economics goes, W is a willful moron.

We got a bull market

Yet the Nasdaq is still several hundred points below where it was when W took office, in spite of a severe correction before he got there. And now the eight year returns for the DOW and S&P aren't looking so good either.

and record revenue as a direct result.

Those revenues came from oil and commodity companies, government contractors, and the tax returns of government employees. All of which is unsustainable.

He doesn't deserve your carping, or everyone else's.

He deserves worse. He's one of the worst economic presidents ever. If it weren't for the wealth built during the Reagan era (which ended when W took office), we would be in really horrible shape, and if it weren't for Bill Thomas, W never would have won a second term.

60 posted on 03/10/2008 7:50:27 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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