Posted on 03/11/2008 6:35:16 AM PDT by Delacon
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I'm glad he's gone, then.
It’s just lost till November, we can get it back if we can muster a true conservative. If there is such a thing anymore.
Oops. I meant contact your congressmen. I was fixated on Senator McCain. I wonder why.
And note the weasel word following the pre-condition of (border) security: “enhanced”.
That could mean color photos suitable for framing from
the “virtual fence” as they wave goodbye heading north,
like cameras at the end of a water ride at Six Flags.
McCain still doesn’t “GET IT” The @$$ still thinks in terms of granting amnesty to law breakers. THIS is the candidate of REPUBLICANS!?!?!?! Until he does get it and commits to a valid plan of border security and law enforcement he wont get my vote.
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"no one who came here illegally would have any precedence over someone who either came legally, or waited legally..."
If we elect RINO McCain for any reason, this is what we'll get.
Ann Coulter is right - he makes Hillary look conservative.
Flip, flop.
Ordinarily, I think it'd be a great idea to force the Dem's hands on immigration, since we're not only on the right side but on the winning side.
Unfortunately, we'll also be highlighting that our candidate is on the wrong side as well.
The problem is the reverse...nobody who came here legally will have any precedence in getting his application processed over those that came illegally. There are not enough workers in the system to process the current workload in a timely manner...nevermind adding millions more applications to the backlog.
“McCain still doesn’t “GET IT” The @$$ still thinks in terms of granting amnesty to law breakers. THIS is the candidate of REPUBLICANS!?!?!?! Until he does get it and commits to a valid plan of border security and law enforcement he wont get my vote.”
Is why I posted this article. The petition to have a floor vote is being done, among other things, to force McCain to move to the right on immigration. The article doesn’t make clear that this is a petition to have a floor vote on the SAVE Act that is primarily an enforcement bill. It was authored by a dem, has many blue dog democrats as co sponsors, and even more republican co sponsors. If is goes to the floor and McCain says he opposes it, he is opposing moderate democrats who are in favor of it. If he does that he is going to look bad to middle of the road democrat and republican voters which he will need in the general election.
Ok on the enhanced security, but the amnesty thingy is not getting through. Juan? Juan? You in dere? No amnesty, either!
“So you want to wish Hillary, or even worse, Obama, on our us and our Troops?”
Get over yourself with the “our troops” rhetoric.
Mccain (like the other two) could care less about the safety and security of the United States - he is willing to give our country away to millions of foriegn invaders.
But at least we’re propping up the governemnt in Iraq.
So we lose the battle here at home, only to win the distant war?
Smashing idea!
Yeah I always wonder how the soldier in the field feels when he gets the call that his wife and daughter were raped and murdered by an illegal alien.
See, if you are pro amnesty you can still be pro border security. Amnesty for all the illegals here but just don’t let anymore in. This is the position McCain has staked out. Talk up border security but make no committments to enforcement which has the goal of making illegals not want to be here by making everything they try to do here illegal and actually really enforce it. Why waste time enforcing laws that will become null and void once you legalize all the illegals? This position wont work though. Motivate immigrants to come here illegally who can easily find jobs and a government infrastucture willing to help them and think they will eventually get amnesty yet again and no fence will be good enough keep them out. At least not a fence that Americans are willing to pay for year in year out, decade after decade.
if he didn’t get it then why did he bring up the issue at the CPAC conference? why did he go there in the first place? I have a feeling he will vote for this. We’ll see. if he doesn’t, you KNOW that means he won’t win conservative support in November.
BTTT!
McCain said he “gets it”.....
Really?....we’ll see if he “gets it”.
I'd say the dumbass is someone who thinks we should overlook his continuing amnesty plans. We should overlook his plans to close Gitmo. We should overlook his desires to give the enemy combatants there lawyers in our civil courts. We should overlook his anti-waterboarding stupidity. We should overlook his previous dismantling of our free speech rights. We should overlook that he buys into the global warming fraud, We should overlook his RINO history of obstructionism.
We should overlook everything else that's wrong about him, because "HE'S GOOD FOR THE TROOPS".
How is all this stuff that's bad for the country any good for our troops?
How many of them (and us) will die because RINO McCain won't allow waterboarding? That's not how you win wars.
He needs to do some serious recanting if he expects to be elected. Too many folks have a problem voting for a liberal democRAT on our own ticket!
Well, that explains why he has been in tight with the moonbats who “support the troops” and villify the war...same logic pattern.
Or when he gets out of the service and comes home to no job because Pedro the no-longer-illegal has taken it.
I agree with everything you say. But he is better on all the things you mention than either Obama or Hillary. My only hope is the good people like those here on FR will be loud enough, active enough, and vigilant enough to keep dumb ass McCain in line once he is elected but elect him we should.
We crushed the first attempt at amnesty against the odds and the odds won’t be changed either way no matter who is elected.
He sure does.
We're stuck with him, though. Thank you, primary voters.
I’m not stuck with him. My vote will be a write in because McQueeg will lose anyway and I refuse to offer encouragement to the Grand Old Plantation.
I certainly don't want Obama in there, but I don't see much difference between RINO McCain or Hillary policy wise. She's even responsible enough to say that she "won't rule out" waterboarding. She has him beat on that issue.
I think I’m there, too.
At the moment, I’m not voting for him. I’ll write in. My vote must be earned.
It’s possible that he could earn it before November, although I fail to see how.
I’m pretty jaded at this point. I haven’t forgotten our border fence “victory” and the result.
I simply don’t intend to back down from either party at this point.
Sure that means he still plans to give amnesty to those her illegally, and allow them to stay here and work ahead of those who didn't break the law, while those waiting are still outside the country not working. He used the words for a chance to become a CITIZEN of this country, not immigrant or guest worker. The illegals still get to cut in line in front of those outside the country. Its political doublespeak and he needs to be called on it.
The rules are already clear on employer hiring of illegal immigrants, dont know what these congressman want. The issues are with enforcement and the judicial obstruction, it is a complex issue for the zealots to understand.
I wonder how long he had to stand in front of the mirror until he got that right.
Woo hoo I’m a Zealot. LOL
We're stuck with him, though. Thank you, primary Democrat and Liberal Independent voters.
Oh, they're no small part of it, but Republicans voted for him as well.
McCain won the primaries in New York, Florida, Connecticut, Delaware, and Oklahoma, all of which are (I believe) closed primaries.
Republican primary voters can't just wash their hands of him and pretend they don't have any responsibility.
There is a reason that former POWs will not sit down at the same table with him. Step back and take into consideration what he has done to conservatives and the Constitution and you people may realize why the reluctance of conservatives to support him. Because of what he has done in the Senate, I will definitely not vote for him which would constitute my sitting down at the same table with him.
Have at it .... I'm off to some shopping while I can still afford the diesel fuel.
Do what’s right Republicans and America will come back to you. This election is very important but the financial pain of America is coming like a tsunami from all directions. Illegal aliens have been draining the system for decades.
First, enforce the law, the jobs will dry up and most Mexicans will go home. Fine businesses that hire them thousands of dollars per incident and make plenty of examples.
Then, register illegals over a span of a year to become citizens. It is THEIR responsibility to show up for processing, not the States or local communities. Make several federal announcements and when the cuttoff comes, it comes and is done.
Over a three year span they must learn English (on their own dime so they can take the nationalization test without a spanish intepretor) and not commit a Felony of any sort or Class A Misdameanors (or you get deported immediately). After this phase, issue SS cards and offer job training, but no welfare freebies. These will become tax-paying, responsible voters that understand our rule of law and must rely on the benevolence of our population like so many immigrants had to in the past.
The last leg of the journey is to declare war on the gangs, the dregs that refused to register. They will be very easy to spot.
Forget the fence, it’s a waste of money. Use the National Guard along the border and Hueys, radar and sonar to detect violators. When violators are captured, transport them to the very bottom of Mexico like Ike did in the 1950’s. This is FAR cheaper then incarcerating them or just dumping them back on the border where they will simply try again. Attempts to cross the border cost money. After the first failed attempt they will be broke and have to spend whatever remaining dollars getting from Southern Mexico back to their families. As a side benefit, the Guard will also get some very valuable training in the process.
You had best serve the nation properly to get through these problems and start showing some balls, this move is a good start.
The majority does not want illegal invasion, stop listening to the left wing media ilk. The financial pain will begin to put an end to the PC crap going on in America as the Middle Class has awakened to the fact that we are now Lower Class citizens. Responsible American Patriots that love this country are now openly discussing if we need to overrun Washington if this kind of corrupt, oligarchy-AmeriKa style government continues to behave in such fashion for too much longer.
However, We the People will support the party and attempt the democratic process as plan A. A revolution is a nasty, distasteful affair but to any true American it is always plan B.
Patriotic, educated American’s have begun feeling we have no real leadership left, only crooks on both sides putting our entire American way of life in mortal peril. Reconnect with the people, do lots of public broadcasting that you’re the American party first and not disconnected from the masses, having tea parties and vacations. This may not be true but many people THINK it is and you had best use you’re leverage to demonstrate otherwise or we will have Dem’s in power driving the nation into the ground until plan B occurs or our enemies do the job.
McCain and his fellow RINOs just plain do not get it and do not want to get it. They are determined to force it down our throats! And McCain still has Dr. Juan Hernandez, the notorious radical open borders advocate on his advisory staff. If any of the three leading candidates get into the White House, they will push amnesty on us and illegals won’t have to go to the end of the line and wait their turn to immigrate LEGALLY like everyone else.
thanks, bfl
BTTT
“no one who came here illegally would have any precedence over someone who either came legally, or waited legally...”
Did he actually say that with a straight face?
Just ASSUMING, lock/stock/barrel without any discussion, that we all want the fence BEFORE WE LEGALIZE ALL THE ILLEGALS.
What sense does THAT make?
It means:
OUTRIGHT AMNESTY
and
It means, once they are legalized, they will petition another 20 million or more of their RELATIVES to come into the United States.
JOHN MCCAIN, YOU BIG DUMBASS, here are your orders from your bosses, the American People. They are simple. They are only two.
1. FENCE/WALL/IMPENETRABLE BORDER FIRST AND FOREMOST, LIKE YESTERDAY
and
2. NO AMNESTY AT ALL. FENCE OR NO FENCE. DEPORTATIONS THROUGH GOVERNMENT ACTION AND ATTRITION/SELF-DEPORTATION OF THE 20 MILLION OR SO HERE
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