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Prostitution & Federal Criminal Law (Governor Spitzer )
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MTMyN2NiZTBmY2QxMTk4ZmViYzFhNzljMTRkNzZlZWQ= ^ | Andy McCarthy

Posted on 03/11/2008 11:45:02 AM PDT by ventanax5

I have been bugged out with the flu, and as a result I've seen a lot of the commentary — including, of course, "expert" commentary, which has been something less than expert.

The general approach of the federal law to prostitution mimics its approach to gambling. They are activities that tend to generate big profits for organized crime syndicates, which profits not only enrich the racketeers but underwrite their various other rackets, including loan-sharking, narcotics trafficking, murder-for-hire, etc.

In Governor Spitzer's case, moreover, it's worth remembering the Nevada senator character in Godfather II who is blackmailed into doing the Corleones' bidding on Capitol Hill. That vignette involved a murder frame-up in a brothel, but the extortion scheme was realistic because the senator had patronized a prostitution business run by the mafia. (A similar issue arose with President Clinton's phone-sex on non-secure phones with Monica Lewisky — which was not a "private matter" because it raised the specter of a U.S. president's leaving himself vulnerable to blackmail by any foreign intelligence service that managed to tap the phone.)

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: client9; crook; dumbass; hookah; hooker; hypocrite; prostitution; spitzer; spitzerhooker; spitzmas
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1 posted on 03/11/2008 11:45:02 AM PDT by ventanax5
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Maybe Spitz can be roommates with Michael Vick...
2 posted on 03/11/2008 11:46:01 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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3 posted on 03/11/2008 11:48:01 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Everytime McCain reaches out to conservatives, conservatives get poked in the eye.)
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To: ventanax5

I’m not defending Spitzer but can someone explain to me how transferring $15K between your personal, private bank accounts consitutes activity that rises to the level of the bank reporting it to the IRS and a judge ordering a wiretap? I mean, shouldn’t there be millions of reports submitted to the IRS daily based on this criteria? And then millions of wiretaps? Pretty soon half the population will be employed by the FBI listening into wiretaps of the other half.

http://www.wnbc.com/politics/15562646/detail.html

Spitzer allegedly used the escort service for at least six months and paid more than $15,000 for numerous meetings, a source familiar with the case told WNBC.com.

The case started when banks noticed the frequent cash transfers from several accounts and filed suspicious activity reports with the Internal Revenue Service, a law enforcement official told The Associated Press Tuesday. The accounts were traced back to Spitzer, prompting public corruption investigators to open an inquiry.


4 posted on 03/11/2008 11:49:10 AM PDT by TrebleRebel
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To: ventanax5
No one is ever prosecuted for being a john. But sending a large of cash to aid and abet a crime - or to conceal one - will definitely bring you into the notice of prosecutors.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

5 posted on 03/11/2008 11:50:13 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: TrebleRebel

If he had kept it under 10K, probably wouldn’t have raised any red flags.


6 posted on 03/11/2008 11:52:07 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: TrebleRebel

Frequent cash transfers from several accounts.

Money laundering suspicions, that’s what. Even securities brokers and insurance agents are trained to watch for such activity and obligated to report suspicions immediately.

It’s a sign of the times.


7 posted on 03/11/2008 11:53:11 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: tsmith130
No. That would be "structuring" - itself a crime, if you have knowledge any funds you sent are going to be used to commit or further a crime.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

8 posted on 03/11/2008 11:55:55 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Your assertion about not being prosecuted for being a prostitute’s client is not correct. Law enforcement conducts stings to catch clients. Often the stings are at the street level but sometimes at the level of escort services and massage parlors. If LE has credible evidence of paying for sex, you will be prosecuted.


9 posted on 03/11/2008 11:57:58 AM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: tsmith130

Try depositing $5000.00 into your bank account nowadays, let me know what you experience.


10 posted on 03/11/2008 11:58:22 AM PDT by pennboricua
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To: TrebleRebel
"... I’m not defending Spitzer but can someone explain to me how transferring $15K between your personal, private bank accounts consitutes activity that rises to the level of the bank reporting it to the IRS and a judge ordering a wiretap? I mean, shouldn’t there be millions of reports submitted to the IRS daily based on this criteria?"

Banks have established criteria for reporting these transactions to the Feds.

The Feds get interested when they see payments being made to organized crime rings they've got their eye on.

Does that make sense?

11 posted on 03/11/2008 11:58:29 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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Gee I’m sure that if the coin were flipped, Spitzer would have been very tolerant of someone else doing this in NY when he was AG? NOT


12 posted on 03/11/2008 11:59:06 AM PDT by Sleeping Freeper
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To: ventanax5
My understanding is these laws are generally enforced against pimps and traffickers or against johns if a minor is involved, but generally not against other johns.

IMHO, these statutes should not be used to convert a $500 state misdemeanor into a $5000 and five years federal felony.

OTOH, Elliott is such a hypocritical, holier-than-thou jerk, having prosecuted prostitution crimes himself, that I really don't care what the feds throw at him.

13 posted on 03/11/2008 11:59:32 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: The KG9 Kid
Yes and to terrorist groups. That's where a large sum of money would go.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

14 posted on 03/11/2008 12:00:20 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: colorado tanker
Its one thing if he consorted with a prostitute. I meant to say johns are never prosecuted for that. But if you offer a large amount of money for sex, that definitely gets prosecuted. Spitzer knew what the law was but he didn't care. He broke his oath to see the laws were faithfully executed. That is grounds for impeachment - not sex with any prostitutes he may have frequented.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

15 posted on 03/11/2008 12:03:14 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Mr. Spitzer himself has prosecuted people for being johns, hasn’t he?


16 posted on 03/11/2008 12:06:19 PM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: pennboricua

I deposited $12,000 into my savings account 1 1/2 months ago. Sale of stocks. I have not been contacted by anyone. Yet.


17 posted on 03/11/2008 12:06:35 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: businessprofessor

My understanding is that in CA it is big deal to be caught as a “John”. They will impound and probably sell your vehicle, if it is involved, and the fines and charges are quite serious.


18 posted on 03/11/2008 12:08:06 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: WayneS
Yep. Can you spell H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E?

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

19 posted on 03/11/2008 12:08:13 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Wiseghy
It happens to the little guy chasing street walkers. Rich and powerful men know where to go for sex. And they don't do it where there might be vice cops around. If its hard on Average John in California, it should be much harder on Governor Spitzer in New York. If our society believes prostitution is wrong, than it stands to reason all should be equal before the law - another American value. Throw the book at Spitzer.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

20 posted on 03/11/2008 12:11:24 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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