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Meet your new banker: Uncle Sam
CNN Money via Yahoo ^ | Last Updated: March 13, 2008: 4:16 PM EDT | Colin Barr,

Posted on 03/13/2008 1:32:20 PM PDT by BenLurkin

NEW YORK (Fortune) -- With a vicious storm pelting the markets, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson is urging bankers to batten down the hatches - possibly foreshadowing an expanded government role as a financial-sector investor.

Paulson spoke Thursday morning in Washington as the President's Working Group on Financial Markets unveiled its suggested policy responses to the past year's credit market unrest. Paulson said the group's recommendations - including stronger oversight of players in the mortgage industry - aim to make markets more transparent and less prone to breakdowns such as the one that began last summer, when investors began fleeing mortgage-related securities.

But the process of devising new regulations will inevitably take months and years to play out, as legislators and securities watchdogs debate which measures to adopt. In the meantime, financial institutions are under considerable stress. Bank and brokerge stocks have suffered steep declines over the past year, as asset prices have fallen and some leveraged players have been forced to sell at fire-sale prices.

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Feds may step in A federal purchase of Fannie or Freddie debt could make sense for all involved if the securities convert into common stock or carry equity warrants. Merkel says a government purchase of, say, convertible subordinated debt would help the companies reliquefy their balance sheets while allowing taxpayers to participate in the gains of an eventual market recovery.

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The sight of the government taking a stake in a private company will raise hackles among those who believe the feds should minimize their involvement in the economy. But the feds have done so before: several airlines that filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks issued warrants to the government as part of their plans to re-emerge as public companies.

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Good grief -- as if there isn't enough panic aleady!
1 posted on 03/13/2008 1:32:21 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

I’m quite the optimist in regards to the economy but this is really starting to creep me out. Maybe I should start buying yen or the swiss franc.


2 posted on 03/13/2008 1:36:27 PM PDT by utherdoul
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To: BenLurkin
Feds may step in A federal purchase of Fannie or Freddie debt

Is this their way of saving the Carlyle Group?

3 posted on 03/13/2008 1:41:19 PM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: BenLurkin
But the feds have [bailed out companies] before...

That sure as hell doesn't make it right. The gov't should stay out of this one. These are private parties who privately negotiated bad deals. Both parties should pay the consequences. I fail to see why two private risk-takers who made a bad business judgment should now expect me to step in a bail them out. Your problem, not mine. The fact that your risky behavior is sending chills through ALL financial markets is because private people like me know it's going to end up costing us money even though we were party to it. Enough's enough.

4 posted on 03/13/2008 1:42:49 PM PDT by econjack
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To: BenLurkin

Boy, are we screwed.


5 posted on 03/13/2008 1:46:04 PM PDT by jpl (Samantha Power was right.)
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To: jpl

Yep, and we didn’t even get a kiss first.


6 posted on 03/13/2008 1:48:43 PM PDT by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: utherdoul
Gold hits record $1,000 an ounce

You and I should have bought gold at $400. ;-)

7 posted on 03/13/2008 1:52:37 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: NormsRevenge

My grandpa is still mad he didn’t buy it at around $200 when my Mom was in middle school.


8 posted on 03/13/2008 2:01:54 PM PDT by GOP_Raider ("Hope is the worst of evils, for it prolongs the torments of man" -Nietzsche)
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To: BenLurkin

Stronger oversight?

Past congressional hearings that pressured the expansion of minority and low-income lending are exactly what caused this debacle. It’s the very existence of government oversight that’s the real problem.


9 posted on 03/13/2008 2:03:04 PM PDT by mdefranc
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To: GOP_Raider

It’s one of those things ya can kick yourself all over.. good thing my wife is into jewelry (did I say that?), but we actually have a pretty good hoard of it here.. ;-)


10 posted on 03/13/2008 2:07:14 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: econjack

That sounds good, but we’re not talking about a single bad deal or even a thousand bad deals, but a couple million bad deals up and down the financial pipeline. If they go south a good many people far beyond the original participants are going to suffer.

The gubmint is only bailing out the participants because the consequences of not doing so are very, very bad for everyone else.


11 posted on 03/13/2008 2:10:28 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: BenLurkin

Seems to me that these articles consistently give the impression that the Federal Reserve is somehow a department of the U.S. government. Whether it’s deliberate, I can’t say but it’s very annoying.

The Federal Reserve is a privately-owned bank that has the unconstitutional right to issue ‘money’.

Maybe that’s why they named it ‘The Federal Reserve’, huh?


12 posted on 03/13/2008 2:14:31 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: GOP_Raider
My grandpa is still mad he didn’t buy it at around $200 when my Mom was in middle school.

It was $35/oz when I purchased my senior ring for high school. That was 1973. My ring cost $42. By the time I graduated from UCSD in 1976, my ring cost $120. I just checked the Josten's site to see what a similar ring costs today. They won't reveal the price.

13 posted on 03/13/2008 2:18:18 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: utherdoul
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14 posted on 03/13/2008 2:59:37 PM PDT by Publius (A = A)
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To: durasell
I don't know. Exactly how far does the Trickle Down Effect go? While we haven't felt the end of it, how much is left?

I still don't think the Federal gov’t has any business bailing out private transactions. If it does, the hard lesson to be learned isn't learned and the same sector will do it again because they know they can “fall back on the gov’t”. Well, people, that's you and me and I'm tired of supporting people who consistently make bad choices, both in their business and personal lives.

15 posted on 03/13/2008 5:29:48 PM PDT by econjack
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To: econjack

I don’t know. Exactly how far does the Trickle Down Effect go? While we haven’t felt the end of it, how much is left?


It goes all the ways down to guys who hangs drywall in office buildings or drives a forklift in distribution centers for plumbing fixtures. That far down.

Smart people I’ve talked to say that we’re not even 25% into the whole subprime thing yet.


16 posted on 03/13/2008 5:59:00 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: GOP_Raider

Just think what the same amount of money would be worth in the S&P 500 today (probably 20x that of gold).


17 posted on 03/13/2008 7:36:27 PM PDT by rb22982
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