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"All of these settings could allow students to go home on weekends, or stay at the facility 24 hours a day, seven days a week."

Think of that? They will ALLOW children to go home....

1 posted on 03/14/2008 7:12:51 AM PDT by raybbr
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To: P8ri0

I put that article you linked to in a thread.


2 posted on 03/14/2008 7:13:40 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: raybbr
Think of that? They will ALLOW children to go home....

Well, public schools are becoming nothing but junior penitentiaries anyway - this just makes it official.

3 posted on 03/14/2008 7:18:45 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: raybbr

Orphanages make a comeback as well they should. Parents are on drugs sleeping with multiple partners abdicating on thier obligations to their kids left and left, what other choice is there?


4 posted on 03/14/2008 7:20:58 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: raybbr
"There's a certain point where dad is in jail or has disappeared and mom is on crack ... where there isn't a stable grandmother, that child is being raised by the streets."

And creating a Public boarding school system where the taxpayers will pay for the full-time educating, feeding, clothing, housing and medical care of these children will a) solve the problem or b) expand the problem?

5 posted on 03/14/2008 7:21:22 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: raybbr

We need to avoid a ‘knee-jerk’ reaction here. There are other things to consider.

First, it is probably true that the kids will be better educated by eliminating some of the dysfunctional aspects of their home lives.

Second, this is represents a profound and fundametal shift in thinking that the kids will do better if left at home. This argument is used to justify all sorts of welfare for the parents since cutting off welfare benefits would harm the children. That argument goes away.

Third, it takes away one of the principle defenses of the education community that they cannot be blamed for the lack of scholastic progress resulting from the dysfunctional families.

But, OTOH, I’m sure some will see this as a threat to the education of all children and not just those mentioned in the article.


7 posted on 03/14/2008 7:23:57 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (A true patriot will do anything to keep a Democrat out of the White House.)
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To: raybbr; eyespysomething

The state owns you and yours. Get used to it.

Nothing, including and especially your children, can be removed from the influence of the state.

The state owns your paycheck. The state owns your property. The state owns the food you buy at the grocery store. The state owns your car. The state owns your job. The state owns your health.

You’re just paying rent.


8 posted on 03/14/2008 7:25:55 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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To: raybbr

Pedophiles and pervert teachers having access to children in school sleepovers. Fabulous.


9 posted on 03/14/2008 7:27:23 AM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: raybbr

What’s next..Libensborn??


10 posted on 03/14/2008 7:29:09 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: raybbr

It may seem drastic and I suppose it could be abused, but this is the only way to break the cycle of poverty and ignorance in inner cities.


15 posted on 03/14/2008 7:52:33 AM PDT by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: metmom

The slippery slope moves on. Ping!


25 posted on 03/14/2008 1:46:33 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publici scholae)
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To: Gabz; SoftballMominVA; abclily; aberaussie; albertp; AliVeritas; AnAmericanMother; andie74; ...

Public Education Ping

This list is for intellectual discussion of articles and issues related to public education (including charter schools) from the preschool to university level. Items more appropriately placed on the “Naughty Teacher” list, “Another reason to Homeschool” list, or of a general public-school-bashing nature will not be pinged.

If you would like to be on or off this list, please ping Amelia, Gabz, or SoftballMominVa

26 posted on 03/14/2008 6:36:22 PM PDT by Amelia (Cynicism ON)
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To: raybbr

Remind me again of who’s going to oversee this and protect all those kids from the sexual predators who are going to be applying for those jobs.


27 posted on 03/14/2008 7:00:39 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: raybbr

This will be just like JD. The meanest, toughest among them will rise to the top and terrorize the rest. It’ll be no different than being in jail.

Animal Farm.


28 posted on 03/14/2008 7:01:44 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger; 2Jedismom; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; Antoninus; arbooz; bboop; bill1952; ...

FYI. This isn’t exactly a reason to homeschool so I’m not pinging the list in the typical way, but this is an interesting development concerning public schools that could have far reaching consequences. I thought it is something you all should be aware of.


31 posted on 03/14/2008 7:09:52 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Gabz

Do you think this might be of interest to the Nanny State ping list?

Right now this concept is for kids with virtually no parents, and it sounds all benign and good, but the potential exists for all kinds of abuse of the system as the definition of inadequate parents expands.

What next? You don’t like how they discipline? Your religion isn’t approved of? Any other thing they can can get your kids on?


33 posted on 03/14/2008 7:13:20 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: raybbr

Can anyone here spell *t*e*a*c*h*e*r***s*e*x***a*b*u*s*e*?

Government boarding schools? Sounds to me like a pedophile and homosexual “Magnet” School!


38 posted on 03/14/2008 8:28:40 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: raybbr

“boarding schools are virtually unheard of for the disadvantaged.”
Incorrect the DAR has provided schools, both day and boarding, for underprivaledged since the early days of the 20th century. Good citizenship and love of country are foundations of a DAR school. Maybe the Chicago school board should look at the DAR model.

From the DAR website...
Since 1903, the Society has been helping children in remote mountain areas receive an education. The DAR supports two schools in the Appalachian region- Kate Duncan Smith DAR School, Alabama, and Tamassee DAR School, South Carolina.

Kate Duncan Smith (KDS), founded on Gunter Mountain by the Alabama DAR in 1924, is a day school, kindergarten through 12th grade, serving an area of 100 square miles. Enrollment averages 1,300 students yearly. Special emphasis is placed on responsible citizen-ship, academic achievement, and horticultural and computer skills. Preparation for college and vocational training are important parts of the curriculum.

Tamassee, founded by South Carolina DAR in 1919, gives deserving boys and girls a home, a school, and a chance in life. A faith in God and the principles of citizenship and patriotism remain the foundation of the school. Grades kindergarten through 5th are on campus.Studies are continued at Tamassee-Salem High School for grades 6-12. There are approximately 45 boarding students and 450 day students. A pre-school center for children fills a community need. Both schools are accredited by the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools.

The following schools are on the Approved Schools list:

Berry College, Georgia was founded in 1902 to provide high school education to rural youth and became the first approved DAR school in 1904. It was developed into a college in 1926, and today, it is one of the outstanding comprehensive colleges in the South, with fully accredited art, science and professional programs as well as specialized graduate programs in education and business administration.

Crossnore School, Inc., North Carolina was founded in the early 1900s to give the children from the mountains and foothills of North Carolina a home while attending public schools in Avery County. The school also provides day care services for local children.

Hillside School, Inc., Massachusetts was founded in 1901 as a rural home for boys who were orphaned or otherwise without a home or family. It now provides a structural and supportive environment for students with learning problems. Its program stresses reading, writing, math, science, literature, social studies, fine arts, and industrial arts.

Hindman Settlement School, Kentucky was founded in 1902 to provide an educational opportunity for the youth of the mountains. Its major educational emphasis today is its work with students with dyslexic characteristics. This is the only program of its type within 200 miles.It also offers an Adult Basic Education/GED Program.

Each of these schools is given financial assistance by DAR members, including scholarships, material donations, and genuine personal interest. Over $1 million is given annually by the DAR to support these schools.

The DAR, through its American Indians Committee, assists in the education of Indian youth through scholarships and support of Bacone College, Muskogee, Oklahoma, the oldest continuing institution of higher learning in Oklahoma, and Chemawa Indian School in Salem, Oregon.

Good citizenship and love of country are taught at all of these schools.


43 posted on 03/15/2008 8:21:16 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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