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Petraeus: New Prez Pushing Ill-Advised Withdrawal Could Replace Me
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 03/16/2008 6:20:30 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

David Petraeus was diplomatic in his choice of words, and careful to honor the primacy of civilian authority over the military. But the commanding general of multi-lateral forces in Iraq has left little doubt that if a new president wanted to withdraw from Iraq faster than would reflect Petraeus's considered military opinion, he'd be happy to go home to his family.

ABC's Bill Weir interviewed the Gen. Petraeus as part of a Good Morning America special today marking the fifth anniversary of the war in Iraq. The opening segment focused almost exclusively on the costs of the war. Some producer had apparently calculated that the war has cost 19 times the annual budget of Los Angeles. Who knew? But a subsequent segment did highlight some of the progress that has been made, notably in terms of former insurgents now come over to the multi-lateral side. Then came the Petraeus interview, which ended with this exchange.

BILL WEIR: You serve at the pleasure of the president. If our new president, a year from now, says general, I want out of here in a year. What do you say? Is that even feasible?

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: billweir; campaign2008; davidpetraeus; dhimmicrats; iraq; petraeus; wot
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1 posted on 03/16/2008 6:20:31 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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Petraeus happy to be replaced if new prez ignores his advice. Ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 03/16/2008 6:21:15 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
> Petraeus happy to be replaced if new prez ignores his advice.

I don't think "happy" is quite accurate. "Content" might do it, in the sense of "respectfully disagreeing, and willing to follow orders, or resign if he can't do so in good conscience". General Petraeus is a man of honor and integrity.

3 posted on 03/16/2008 6:30:24 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

what a class act, compare that to Wesley Clark


4 posted on 03/16/2008 6:33:57 AM PDT by Billg64 (LOL ROFL Senator Mccain for what????)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

God bless that man.


5 posted on 03/16/2008 6:34:04 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: dayglored

Fair enough, and I’ve gone back and reworded the original NewsBusters item.


6 posted on 03/16/2008 6:34:13 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“But the commanding general of multi-lateral forces in Iraq has left little doubt that if a new president wanted to withdraw from Iraq faster than would reflect Petraeus’s considered military opinion, he’d be happy to go home to his family.”

Whatever you think of Gen. Petraeus, or the war in Iraq, this is a worrisome development when our general staff feels free to go on TV and start saying things like this.

It’s the third-world generalissimo sort of behavior that coup d’etat’s are made of. The general should be invited to go home sooner rather than later if this is truly his opinion, and he’s so confident that he is willing to trumpet it to the media.


7 posted on 03/16/2008 6:39:30 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer

Not sure what you find objectionable. He’s saying he’d be happy to be replaced and go home if the president preferred another general’s advice. I’d encourage you to go to NewsBusters and view the video and see if that affects your opinion.


8 posted on 03/16/2008 6:40:55 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Keeping track of the MSM so you don't have to!)
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To: Billg64

“what a class act, compare that to Wesley Clark”

It’s not proper for a general to say this to the media. It’s fairly outrageous, really.

He’s acting like a modern-day MacArthur.


9 posted on 03/16/2008 6:43:10 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“Not sure what you find objectionable.”

by saying that in a public forum, he not only is showing disdain for civilian control, but he is demoralizing the troops under his command - should he be replaced.

It’s fairly outrageous officership. You can be sure the president whoever that may be next year knows quite well that the general serves at their pleasure. It’s and obvious that need not be said.


10 posted on 03/16/2008 6:46:16 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Bahbah

At this point in time, he is already my choice for president in 2012 if the country survives that long with Obama or a Hillary presidency. Petraeus, unlike 99% of our politicians, is an intelligent and honorable man. He could be the one to pick up the pieces in 2012.


11 posted on 03/16/2008 6:47:43 AM PDT by brydic1
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
> Fair enough, and I’ve gone back and reworded the original NewsBusters item.

Oh, I wasn't correcting your post, I was opining that General Petraeus was being overly diplomatic in -his- use of "happy". I can't believe that he would be genuinely pleased by such an outcome. But it is his nature to be diplomatic in situations such as that interview.

12 posted on 03/16/2008 6:48:27 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: RFEngineer

He is NOT Douglas MacArthur. Truman, as much as I disagree with his actions on many things, did exactly the right thing in relieving MacArthur of his command.

I think what he said is perfectly reasonable...


13 posted on 03/16/2008 6:54:23 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: RFEngineer

I disagree with that thought RFE, Patreaus is trying to make it clear that “another” (see Democrat)would cut and run from Iraq, he is trying to make it clear that would happen.

What the Gen is doing is putting his own personal integrity on the line for people to consider as well as trying to save the mission, if this is the same General that Moveon screamed “Betrayus” in that NYT ad who later is credited for turning the War around, people should consider where he would stand if Cut and Run were to be implemented.


14 posted on 03/16/2008 6:54:49 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3/Cry havoc and let slip the RINOS)
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To: brydic1

I’d vote for him for sure.


15 posted on 03/16/2008 6:59:21 AM PDT by Bahbah
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To: padre35

“I disagree with that thought RFE, Patreaus is trying to make it clear that “another” (see Democrat)would cut and run from Iraq, he is trying to make it clear that would happen.”

You’ve articulated the problem in a nutshell. The Gen. Petraeus should not be expressing any views of a political nature. It is not proper for a General to do this.

If his personal views are not consistent with what he is asked to do as a General, then he always has the option of resigning, but for him to say “we better do X or I quit” is improper and beyond that worrisome.


16 posted on 03/16/2008 7:21:33 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: rlmorel

“I think what he said is perfectly reasonable...”

It’s not reasonable when you are a General on active duty.


17 posted on 03/16/2008 7:23:27 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer; All

I disagree completely.

I read the entirety of his remarks, and there was nothing offensive at all there.

I do not see where that hurts the morale of the troops, most of whom probably respect him, and all of whom can likely relate to his “deployment cycle” which is far more extensive than many of theirs have been, albeit sans the element of danger present for many of them.

He CLEARLY does not foster the attitude that he is above the civilian control of the military (as Gen. Douglas MacArthur CLEARLY did).

I think you are overreacting on this.


18 posted on 03/16/2008 7:28:26 AM PDT by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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To: rlmorel

Here is a quote from the interview:

“if at any time someone wanted someone else’s best professional military advice, I’d be happy to allow that to happen. “

His use of the word “Allow” bothers me a great deal.

Under civilian control of the military, it is not his choice to allow or disallow anything. For a general to say this is problematic. Maybe he meant something else, but this is not right.


19 posted on 03/16/2008 7:28:50 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

This is what an intelligent and honourable General says when he knows he is right about military strategy, when he knows that choosing the opposite strategy would be a disaster.

And it is no longer a WAR. We won the war on April 9th, 2003. This is just running a country who’s population is too dumb and too Islamic to know what is good for them.


20 posted on 03/16/2008 7:31:09 AM PDT by JustDoItAlways
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