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G-rated films power 2007 box office, again Family films fare 438% better than R-rated in new study
World Net Daily ^ | March 14, 2008

Posted on 03/18/2008 10:27:51 AM PDT by Between the Lines

More than 20 years of data is in – and the conventional wisdom is wrong.

The chances a Hollywood movie will win big at the box office are greatly enhanced by a family-friendly rating and strong moral content, defying the notion the entertainment industry is merely serving up what consumers want when they produce so many R-rated movies full of foul language, sex, drugs and immorality, shows a new study by the Christian Film and Television Commission, publishers of Movieguide.

According to the study, G-rated movies averaged nearly $92.2 million, more than 438 percent better than R-rated movies, making only $17.1 million.

"Our annual report to Hollywood shows once again, with relevant financial statistics, that people, including most moviegoers, want good to conquer evil, truth to triumph over falsehood, justice to prevail over injustice and beauty to overcome ugliness," explains Ted Baehr, the president of the group. "They also want to take their whole family to the movies more often (assuming, of course, that ticket prices, concession prices and gasoline prices don't get too high or prohibitive). And they want to see their religious faith respected and celebrated."

Last year, seven films with a G or PG rating earned more than $100 million at the domestic box office, and three PG-rated films ("Shrek the Third," $322 million; "National Treasure: Book of Secrets," $216 million; and "Alvin and the Chipmunks," $213 million) were among the year's top 10 earners.

Only one R-rated film made the top 10, and it was No. 10, "300," with earnings of $210 million.

No. 11 on the list was G-rated "Ratatouille" with $206 million.

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1 posted on 03/18/2008 10:27:52 AM PDT by Between the Lines
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To: Between the Lines
Hollyweird just doesn't get it. The only movies that my family and I watch are of a family-friendly type which means we rarely ante up at the theater.
2 posted on 03/18/2008 10:30:50 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Between the Lines

G-rated Horton Hears a Who just got $45M over the weekend.


3 posted on 03/18/2008 10:30:52 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Between the Lines

“Star Wars” Trilogy, “Passion of the Christ”, etc. etc. etc.

But then, one of my favorite movies is “UHF” so what do I know, LOL


4 posted on 03/18/2008 10:31:53 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 1 John 4:15, John 11:25, John 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

They should clean up at the Oscars/sarc


5 posted on 03/18/2008 10:32:04 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Between the Lines

Bad analogy...R-rated films are only intended for a specific audience thus will make less money, the only exception I know of is Passion of the Christ.


6 posted on 03/18/2008 10:32:49 AM PDT by Santa Fe_Conservative (The RINOs think that they have won but we shall see who has the last laugh in '08...)
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To: Between the Lines

I’ve read this before.

Hollywood makes more money with family friendly movies. So why do they pump out more filthy movies that do poorly at the box office?

Answer: To further their agenda.


7 posted on 03/18/2008 10:34:34 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (John McCain. If I have to... I guess...)
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To: Between the Lines

Well . . . yeah.

It’s nothing new. If you read the original script for what became “Casablanca” it was raw enough to make “Brokeback Mountain” look tame. The Warners loved the concept of the play (refugees in North Africa) but did not think a movie centered on adultery, betrayal, and selfish desire would sell many tickets.

They changed it to the version beloved today — a movie about unselfish love and sacrifice. Does anyone think that if they stuck to a script that had Rick and Ilsa behaving like rutting pigs oblivious to the impact of their actions on others would be a movie that is still valued today?


8 posted on 03/18/2008 10:35:17 AM PDT by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: Between the Lines

This has been the situation for many years and is well known in Hollywood. I have no idea why anyone whould invest in an R rated film rather than in a g rated production. The potential payout for r is very limited.


9 posted on 03/18/2008 10:36:01 AM PDT by TexanToTheCore (If it ain't Rugby or Bullriding, it's for girls.........................................)
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To: Between the Lines

2007 top box office:

1 Spider-Man 3 Sony
2 Shrek the Third P/DW
3 Transformers P/DW
4 Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End BV
5 Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix WB
6 I Am Legend WB
7 The Bourne Ultimatum Uni.
8 National Treasure: Book of Secrets BV
9 Alvin and the Chipmunks Fox
10 300 WB
11 Ratatouille BV
12 The Simpsons Movie Fox


10 posted on 03/18/2008 10:38:54 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: Between the Lines
While I encourage G movies and family films this article or its premise, is not exactly comparing apples to apples.

G movies will always have the higher probability of drawing larger audiences because they can pull from a larger population of people. That and of course if you want to clam your kids down for 90-minutes you don't take them to the new blood and guts horror movie, the drama which puts them to sleep, or the techno triller that they couldn't follow unless you updated them every 5 minutes.

11 posted on 03/18/2008 10:40:25 AM PDT by A Texan (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: No Truce With Kings

I agree, but “The Postman Always Rings Twice” (the Garfield/Turner original, not that Nicholson/Lange abomination) still holds its value.

A lot of people forget that we really need both types of morality plays. Without one, the other wears easily and fades fast.


12 posted on 03/18/2008 10:40:28 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Responsibility2nd

That is really the only rational answer that one is left with.


13 posted on 03/18/2008 10:42:28 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative

I got the impression that “300” was bad, too violent, explicit, etc. I liked it very much when I finally watched it. It is violent, explicit and cruel but the message was outstanding and to me that is the strength of this movie. The objectionable things didn’t at all distract. The men’s muscular development was also something to behold and I learned that they had a special workout to get that way.


14 posted on 03/18/2008 10:42:52 AM PDT by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: crusty old prospector

They get it. They just refuse to accept it. It’s actually interesting and a little surprising because it demonstrates that their ideology is more important to them than money. Makes the industry more dangerous too, imo - I’d like them better if money was their number one god rather than liberalism.


15 posted on 03/18/2008 10:43:34 AM PDT by agrace
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To: crusty old prospector
Hollyweird just doesn't get it. The only movies that my family and I watch are of a family-friendly type which means we rarely ante up at the theater.

Oh, they get it. Media is the only industry that views propagandizing their customers as more important than actually making money.
16 posted on 03/18/2008 10:44:17 AM PDT by Antoninus (Tell us how you came to Barack?)
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To: crusty old prospector

They get it just fine, that’s why they’re making G-rated movies. They also get that there are 300 million other people in the country, and some of them don’t want to see G-rated movies.


17 posted on 03/18/2008 10:44:21 AM PDT by discostu (aliens ate my Buick)
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To: Between the Lines
I seldom go to the movies....not much there I want to pay that much to see.

Last movie I went to the theater for....Cars.
Wife's last movie was Shrek the Third.

We wait for the DVD. Last two DVD’s? Hang Em High (replacing my VHS’s) and 101 Dalmatians.

18 posted on 03/18/2008 10:46:10 AM PDT by fredhead (4-cylinder, air cooled, horizontally opposed......THE REAL VW!!!)
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To: No Truce With Kings

Of course there’s still plenty of adultery, betrayal and selfish desire in the movie. Rick’s basically a rotten SOB (with a seriously wicked sense of humor) until the last 5 minutes of the movie, and even then in 4:30 of that last 5 minutes he’s still ACTING like a rotten SOB, it’s only the final reveal is his real plan that redeems his character.


19 posted on 03/18/2008 10:48:12 AM PDT by discostu (aliens ate my Buick)
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To: A Texan

They are not comparing apples and oranges - they’re comparing dollars and dollars - and, since family friendly movies get more dollars, so why don’t they make more?
The answer is “Because they don’t want to.”

So the real question is “Why doesn’t Hollyweirdstan want to make more profitable family movies?”


20 posted on 03/18/2008 10:50:25 AM PDT by Little Ray (It is time to drink the KoolAid: McCain for President!)
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To: discostu
They also get that there are 300 million other people in the country, and some of them don’t want to see G-rated movies.

Such people are idiots. Anyone with intelligence and a love for film enjoys seeing anything excellent, regardless of its rating.

21 posted on 03/18/2008 10:51:10 AM PDT by Chunga (Vote Republican)
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To: Between the Lines

Silliness (on WND’s part). There are probably far more “R” movies than “G” with many being small arthouse indie releases that pull down the average revenue. Compare the top five “G”’s with the top 5 “R”’s and see what you get.


22 posted on 03/18/2008 10:51:10 AM PDT by jjm2111 (Are we going to have a Daily Dose of McCain?)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I think a lot of Hollywood producers were wieners in school and couldn't get a girlfriend. To make up for this lack of sex appeal, they produce movies where they can watch women undress and have sex to fulfill their fantasies.

I only think this because I graduated with a kid who is now a “producer”. He is how I described above. It's easier to create a fantasy than to deal with reality.

23 posted on 03/18/2008 10:51:31 AM PDT by Skenderbej
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To: discostu

That’s why boycotts never work.


24 posted on 03/18/2008 10:51:34 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Men fight well when they know that no prisoners will be taken.)
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To: Between the Lines

Just saw “National Treasure: Book of Secrets”

Fun movie.


25 posted on 03/18/2008 10:52:54 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Chunga

They aren’t idiots, they have their taste in movies. A lot of G-rated movies stink, recently the quality has gone up but I grew up in the time when G-rated meant Apple Dumpling Gang and other simply atrocious Disney (and others, but usually Disney) movies. It took a few really great movies like Toy Story to retrain my instinct, and even then there’s still some pretty serious crud that comes out in G, stuff with talking animals.


26 posted on 03/18/2008 10:55:31 AM PDT by discostu (aliens ate my Buick)
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To: outinyellowdogcountry

I went with a bunch of friends to see 300. Of the group, two (including me) were vets. Myself and the other vet hated the movie and everyone else loved it.


27 posted on 03/18/2008 10:56:29 AM PDT by jjm2111 (Are we going to have a Daily Dose of McCain?)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Boycotts of the movie industry have problems because it’s a huge industry. Nearly $10 billion domestically at the box office last year, hard to put a serious dent in that.


28 posted on 03/18/2008 10:56:47 AM PDT by discostu (aliens ate my Buick)
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To: Between the Lines

However, if the “family” films are about hip hop culture or are filled with poopy-farty jokes, we don’t want to take our kids to those, either.


29 posted on 03/18/2008 10:57:28 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: jjm2111
I went with a bunch of friends to see 300. Of the group, two (including me) were vets. Myself and the other vet hated the movie and everyone else loved it.

I don't go see movies myself, but I've heard that 300 got rave reviews. Why did you vets not like it? Too radically different of a style of warfare?

30 posted on 03/18/2008 11:03:00 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Men fight well when they know that no prisoners will be taken.)
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To: No Fool

ping


31 posted on 03/18/2008 11:03:58 AM PDT by I'm ALL Right! (Dear RNC: Not one Conservative Candidate? Not one "RED" penny)
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To: crusty old prospector

Rather be dipped in acid then watch brain-dead films.... I like my Die Hard, Lethal Weapon, Sin City, etc. movies....


32 posted on 03/18/2008 11:04:52 AM PDT by thebaron512
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To: Obadiah

I am not buying any of this.
1- huge accounting problems
a- foreign distribution is not included
b-dvd sells are not included.
c-costs are not included.
2-Markets are efficient- why hasn’t some buy bought a film studio fore the purpose of producing high rated g films?
there is no entry problem. Anyone can make and distrubte films.
3- theaters just want more customers and will put anything in the theaters.


33 posted on 03/18/2008 11:08:33 AM PDT by genghis
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To: Between the Lines

Mr. Bean’s Holiday: Rated G in DVD. It is a riot for all ages. Very clean. Very silly. Family entertainment.


34 posted on 03/18/2008 11:08:44 AM PDT by Notwithstanding ("You are either with America in our time of need or you are not" - W? No, 'twas Sen. Hillary 9/12/01)
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To: iowamark

Transformers and Spiderman 3 were not G-rated, they were PG-13.
I hated Spiderman 3 because the characters were slef absorbed crybabies,
I loved Transformers for its positove message and attitude towards our military.
“No sacrifice, no victory.”
They didn’t humanize the villian, it was classic good guy vs bad guy.


35 posted on 03/18/2008 11:08:47 AM PDT by Larebil (My name is liberal backwards, since they backwards thinking)
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To: discostu
They aren’t idiots, they have their taste in movies.

Only an idiot would despise excellence in film, regardless of rating.

36 posted on 03/18/2008 11:10:19 AM PDT by Chunga (Vote Republican)
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To: Chunga

Maybe you should read past the first sentence.


37 posted on 03/18/2008 11:11:24 AM PDT by discostu (aliens ate my Buick)
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To: Larebil

They’re going to ruin GI Joe.


38 posted on 03/18/2008 11:12:46 AM PDT by Clemenza (I Live in New Jersey for the Same Reason People Slow Down to Look at Car Crashes)
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To: jjm2111
There are probably far more “R” movies than “G” with many being small arthouse indie releases that pull down the average revenue. Compare the top five “G”’s with the top 5 “R”’s and see what you get.

The article is comparing dollars to dollars. The fact that more R movies were made yet they grossed less shows that the R rated movies are not as good as an investment.

39 posted on 03/18/2008 11:19:39 AM PDT by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: Santa Fe_Conservative
Bad analogy...R-rated films are only intended for a specific audience thus will make less money,

Shrek, Alvin and the Chipmunks and Ratatouille were intended for a specific audience also.

40 posted on 03/18/2008 11:20:05 AM PDT by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: genghis
As long as you're not buying this.

Dont read this either.

Movie fans flock to patriotic, moral films
Surprise! Moral movies draw 7 times the fans
Soap opera star tells of life transformed by God
'Gilligan's' star teams up with 'Pastor Greg'
Family movies best, Hollywood realizes
Disney lay-offs mean R-rated films out
Disney boycott suspended
Judge's decision kills family-friendly flicks
Study: Moviegoers prefer patriotic films
Movieguide awards honor best family films
Study: Movies with explicit sex don't sell
Box office tells Hollywood to 'come clean'

41 posted on 03/18/2008 11:20:12 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (John McCain. If I have to... I guess...)
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To: Between the Lines
More than 20 years of data is in – and the conventional wisdom is wrong.

The chances a Hollywood movie will win big at the box office are greatly enhanced by a family-friendly rating and strong moral content, defying the notion the entertainment industry is merely serving up what consumers want when they produce so many R-rated movies full of ...crap.

I could have told them that. And it goes back further than 20 years. And that 'notion' is bull hockey. It's the 'notion' of Hollyweird degenerates, perverts and the Gay Mafia that's taken over the studios - like Disney. Old Walt has been spinning in his grave for years.

Ever since the Production Code (Hayes Code) went bye-bye utter filth has filled the big screen. Last night I threw in the tape of the Maltese Falcon. Thank God the Code was in effect and the Producer couldn't say,

'You know, that scene would be much better if we showed Bogie's butt Re-shoot that with his pants off. And we just have to push the Gay angle of Joel Cairo's character. Make him kiss someone, like Wilmer.'
When an actor gets paid $1 Million extra to show his butt in a movie (like Mel Gibson used to), you should know there's a problem.
42 posted on 03/18/2008 11:21:45 AM PDT by Condor51 (If my nose was runnin' money, honey I'd blow it all on you.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
G-rated Horton Hears a Who just got $45M over the weekend.

Indeed. I took my whole family this weekend to see the film that reminds moviegoers that "A person's a person, no matter how small."

43 posted on 03/18/2008 11:25:57 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Here are a couple of more for your list:

Abstinence Counts with Moviegoers!

Jesus Almighty! Five-Year Study Shows Moviegoers Prefer Movies with Very Strong Christian Worldviews

44 posted on 03/18/2008 11:26:26 AM PDT by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: thebaron512
Rather be dipped in acid then watch brain-dead films.... I like my Die Hard, Lethal Weapon, Sin City, etc. movies....

The three movies you cite are basically case studies in "brain-dead films."

Entertaining, violent, action-packed, etc. - but not very intellectually challenging or thought-provoking.

45 posted on 03/18/2008 11:29:01 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: discostu
Maybe you should read past the first sentence.

I responded to your only pertinent comment. Your point about there being great quantities of bad G-rated movies is useless, since there are also many bad PG and R-rated movies...and your opinion of The Apple Dumpling Gang and other Disney fare doesn't interest me at all.

46 posted on 03/18/2008 11:32:01 AM PDT by Chunga (Vote Republican)
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To: Between the Lines

Horton hears a Who is the funniest movie I have seen in FOREVER. Clean humor is great. People actually applauded after the movie. Don’t see that often. What was great to see all the young couples there to see without kids even. There is slapstick humor that only adults can find funny, while mixed with silly for the kids to enjoy. But the ‘adult’ humor wasn’t sexual in any way. Like the “Is this Burt from accounting?”


47 posted on 03/18/2008 11:32:22 AM PDT by Southerngl
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To: Between the Lines

well, this is a no brainer. I would guess kids go to more movies a year than adults. And I think kids are more likely to go to second viewings. Look what teen girls did for Titanic. Therefore, a good G rated would out draw a good R rated. I just don’t see the issue here.


48 posted on 03/18/2008 11:34:17 AM PDT by purpleraine
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To: Little Ray
So the real question is “Why doesn’t Hollyweirdstan want to make more profitable family movies?”

Probably for the same reasons that superchic fashion houses limit their runs of exclusive items to 1,000 handbags or 500 pairs of shoes, even though they could probably make more money by mass-producing.

Because designers and filmmakers think of themselves as artists first and businesspeople second.

49 posted on 03/18/2008 11:34:36 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: Yaelle

Not much potty humor in Horton hears a who.

Example of ‘adult only’ humor is when Horton is spraying himself with his trunk and adjusts the stream to the changing streams in special shower heads.


50 posted on 03/18/2008 11:35:41 AM PDT by Southerngl
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