Posted on 03/18/2008 10:27:51 AM PDT by Between the Lines
Wow, you were spot on, as if you were there!
I have read about all those points you mentioned in memoirs from soldiers.
The Iraqi army(hussein) also used human shields,
Marines risked death to rescue a woman being used as a human shield, she was waving at soldiers fell and then slowly got up to run, Iraqi soldiers were shooting her for running away.
The United States military is byfar, the classiest organization on the planet.
I would love to see a movie that shows their heroic efforts
from the march to Baghdad, to the battle of Felujah.
Action, drama, determination, and bravery in the face of cruelty and hate.
I ended up buying 101 Dalmatians the other day at Barnes & Noble. I went there to buy other DVDs, but it was on display at the check-out and I remembered it from my childhood and couldn't resist!
“They’re going to ruin GI Joe.”
I heard, GI = Global International, LAME.
Dennis Quaid as Duke???
LOL! You’re right, there are a lot of immortal classics that would be ruined if made today.
Ratatouille got best animated feature film.
No my pint about there being a great quantity of bad G-rated movies is the whole story. Anybody in their late 30s to early 40s grew up in a time when almost all G-rated movies were atrocious, and subsequently grew up pre-disposed to assume G-rated equals unwatchable. Now thanks largely to Pixar that stated getting fixed in the 90s, but G still has that reputation for low production quality and insipid plots.
Hollywood makes more money with family friendly movies. So why do they pump out more filthy movies that do poorly at the box office?
Answer: To further their agenda.
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Of course, another, less tinfoily answer might be that the folks going to family movies are DIFFERENT from those attending R rated movies, so they make different products in order to penetrate multiple markets.
Gosh, that sounds like capitalism in action.
It shows a lot of things, but it really doesn’t show anything definitively. The reality is that almost all indie and semi-indie movies (movies that aren’t going to have a large box office splash regardless of rating) wind up R. They’re going to bring down the average box office. Lots of highly profitable movies, are R rated, so you really can’t say they’re not as good an investment just based on that. Another part of the problem is that it’s just looking at total domestic gross and not paying attention to the cost. Cost matters, that’s how you determine profitability. The Weinstein brothers (founders of Mirimax and now the Weinstein Group, also the guys responsible for Quentin Tarentino, Kevin Smith, and Robert Rodriguez) built their empire on movies that cost $6 million and made $30 million domestically, now those $30 million dollar grosses aren’t going to look too sexy in this “study”, but I guarantee you their investors were happier than the people who invested in Peter Jackson’s remake of King Kong. Sure Kong pulled in 7 times as much domestically as your average Weinstein movie (218 million), but it also cost 35 times as much to make (207 million).
Gosh, welcome to this thread. If you like, take some time to read the previous replies. As you would see.... It's pretty clear that Hollywood is not interested in turning a buck as they are in spewing out R-rated films which bring in less $$$ at the box office, but which does advance their goals.
Gosh, that sounds like capitalism socialism in action.
If 300 was the only R-rated movie to make the list, then is “I Am Legend” PG-13 then? I’m thinking of seeing a free screening of it this weekend, but I thought a vampire/zombie movie would be rated R and have copious amounts of blood and gore.
On another note, I think part of this is that the vast majority of R-rated movies are either horror or raunchy comedies, most of which are poorly done and almost indistinguishable from one another. Usually, ‘serious’ R-rated films such as war movies or historical movies tend to do better. In addition, it seems like as the quality of G-rated movies goes up, the number of them goes down, so instead of families picking between lots of really lame movies, they’re all going to a few good ones.
It would be interesting to see the dvd sales as well. On the Clerks 2 dvd, Kevin Smith says that dvd sales are the only reason he’s still able to make movies, that his movies don’t do great at the box office, but sell and rent really well.
Kevin was probably overstating (he’s really into insisting that he’s no good). His movies are profitable, sure they aren’t box office smashes but because he keeps them pretty cheap to make they’re generally profitable just on domestic grosses. He really is the posterboy for the Weinstein method, making movies cheaply enough so they don’t have to have huge splashes to be profitable. But the DVDs do help, probably helped him out after Mallrats tanked.
Roger Corman pioneered this approach LONG before the brothers Weinstein.
Roger’s at a whole different level of cheap, he’s the king of the B (C, often D) movie no doubt about that. Weinstein movies aren’t anywhere near that cheap, they’re actually A movies, just not block busters or anything that even wants to be a block buster. Actually the majority of the movie industry is in that 6 to 10 million dollar budget range that’s perfectly happy to make 30 to 50 million domestically.
The Production Code was an inconsistent joke. Some committee insisting that films have uplifting endings and bad people are always punished is complete balderdash.
Rowan (Mr. Bean) is very good at physical comedy. I was LOL when I rented that movie.
if they stuck to a script that had Rick and Ilsa behaving like rutting pigs oblivious to the impact of their actions on others would be a movie that is still valued today?
Well, it would be valued by leftist liberals.
This 50 year old is going to go see it tomorrow. I will buy the DVD when it comes out too.
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