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Obama's Problem with White Voters
American Thinker ^ | 3-21-08 | James Pennington

Posted on 03/21/2008 4:32:04 AM PDT by Renfield

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To: Pit1
Are you serious????
61 posted on 03/21/2008 6:57:17 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: Moose4
I know black people who work hard, and have achieved, and are great to be around. I don’t care about their race. I’d take them over a trashy white Eminem-style “homeboy” any day of the week.

Amen to that!

62 posted on 03/21/2008 6:59:15 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim
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To: HD1200
"She became upset and immediatley threw the “we came here as slaves” argument at me."

The last black person with whom I discussed race relations did the same thing, and I very calmly looked at him and said "can we agree that you have never been a slave and that I have never owned a slave?" That made him stop and think for several seconds.

63 posted on 03/21/2008 6:59:51 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: Renfield

Interesting read.


64 posted on 03/21/2008 7:01:36 AM PDT by Squeako (I'm voting for the unassailable black, lesbian, disabled veteran. Take that Obama, Clinton, McCain!)
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To: Obadiah

Unfortunately, the conversation is one-way


65 posted on 03/21/2008 7:05:32 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus (( commander of the simian host))
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To: MrB
“make the rulers live by their own rulebook” +++++++++++++++++++ That says it all. Unfortunately many are blind and see no connection.
66 posted on 03/21/2008 7:07:05 AM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: Joan Kerrey

You know what’s unfortunate about that tactic?

It’s in Hillary’s mentor’s Book, Rules for Radicals by Saul Alinsky, an avowed Marxist.


67 posted on 03/21/2008 7:13:17 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: SomeCallMeTim
For those blacks who actually WORK, who take pride in what they do (whatever it is), who give a crap about their families, and who are striving to improve themselves and their communities.... I have the utmost respect and affection.

So do I. But now, after the eyeopening revelation (for me) that there are many Rev. Wrights in this country, I look at them and wonder what they REALLY think about me. I now suspect, sadly, that underneath their pleasant exterior, they detest me.

68 posted on 03/21/2008 7:14:03 AM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: Renfield
Without exception, the Wisconsin pattern (little interracial contact) and the Ohio pattern (much more such contact) have correlated with identically opposite results throughout the Clinton/Obama battles: every state outside the South where Obama carried the white vote and won the primary or caucus was one with a small to negligible black population (Wyoming, Vermont, Wisconsin, Maine, Washington, Nebraska, Minnesota, Kansas, Utah, North Dakota, Idaho, Alaska and Iowa); in every state where a substantial and widely dispersed black population regularly interacts with whites, Obama lost the white vote and lost the primary: Texas, Ohio, Rhode Island, California, New Jersey, and Massachusetts. I have omitted the candidates' home states (New York for Clinton, Illinois and Hawaii for Obama). Pennsylvania, where Clinton has a commanding lead, will follow the Ohio pattern, as will Florida and Michigan in the increasingly unlikely event of do overs.

Maryland seems to be an exception here, IIRC Obama did well w/White Marylanders and most Whites in Maryland interact with Blacks daily.

69 posted on 03/21/2008 7:35:56 AM PDT by RockinRight (Supreme Court Justice Fred Thompson. The next best place for Fred.)
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To: MrB
Were you really offended by the phrase, or by the knowledge of what would happen if this were reversed?

The phrase hit me like a slap in the face. To me, it said, no matter what you do, or how you feel, as a white person, you are a racist.

The problem with race relations in American, as viewed by the Wright crowd, is that white people can never be OK. There's only one place for us, the role as white oppressors, to be scorned, and demanded from.

That's dehumanizing, and it hurts.

70 posted on 03/21/2008 7:50:27 AM PDT by Red Boots
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To: Renfield

Obama was confusing Jessie Jackson with his grandmother.

Obama’s attempt to “clarify” by calling his grandmother a typical white person only adds proof he is a racist.


71 posted on 03/21/2008 7:56:19 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Red Boots

Sadly, I think there is a lot of truth to what you say.


72 posted on 03/21/2008 7:57:23 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: Pit1

Re post 58, you’re kidding, right?


73 posted on 03/21/2008 11:11:30 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
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To: TomGuy
The DNC still want a win.

Al Gore. Compromise candidate. Convention savior. Bet on it...

74 posted on 03/21/2008 11:14:32 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Obadiah
Most White people (although not all) do not hate Black people simply because of the color of their skin, rather, most White people look at Black society and basically hate what it is, what it has become, and what it represents.

Obama's problem is that he has made it clear he will be an apologist for urban black culture, and will give it even more of a pass from legal and moral sanction than it is already getting. If he had made it clear he would put America first and the tribe second, it might have cost him 10-15% of the Al Sharpton-informed black vote, but he would get many times that back in votes from Reagan Democrats. Now he's in trouble.

75 posted on 03/21/2008 11:22:40 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
At this moment I am really starting to think this remains the only real viable option Democrats have to basically move themselves out of a checkmate situation.
76 posted on 03/21/2008 11:33:32 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: Renfield
Obama: "...The document they produced was eventually signed but ultimately unfinished. It was stained by this nation's original sin of slavery, a question that divided the colonies and brought the convention to a stalemate until the founders chose to allow the slave trade to continue for at least twenty more years, and to leave any final resolution to future generations... "

If Obama had a good pastor, he would know that "original sin" is not the sin of a nation allowing the slave trade, but all mankind's slavery to sin. Our freedom from this slavery can come from Christ alone, not from smooth tounged polititians, community organizers, mad preachers, racist grandmothers or rich white people, not from governments, welfare, anecdotal speeches or reparations, not even from churches, constitutions, civil wars or free markets.

John 8:36
If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

Hey Obama, if you are a Christian, free your mind by renewing your mind:

Romans 12
1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.

77 posted on 03/21/2008 12:36:47 PM PDT by Theophilus (Nothing can make Americans safer than to stop aborting them.)
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To: cyberella
From Dreams of My Father, ...

Will Obama have to now distance himself from himself?

78 posted on 03/21/2008 4:12:08 PM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: Arrowhead1952
The soon to be ex-mayor of Detroit, Kwamie Kilpatrick, personally unburied the N word during his State of the City speech.
79 posted on 03/21/2008 4:18:11 PM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: MrB
“ask them if they’d be better off born in Africa.”

Saw Walter Williams on Opra years ago say that every black in this country should get on there knees every day and thank God for slavery because without it they most certainly would not have made it here. That was my first
exposure to the brilliant Dr. Williams and I was afraid
the last as the audience was predominantly black that day.

80 posted on 03/21/2008 6:27:14 PM PDT by SAWTEX
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