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Immigration group looks to clear myths
Express-News Washington Bureau ^ | 03/21/2008 | Gary Martin

Posted on 03/21/2008 11:32:49 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch

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What about the increase in crimes by ILLEGAL aliens against Latinos, Martin?
1 posted on 03/21/2008 11:32:51 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch
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To: SwinneySwitch

You want “truth in immigration?” OK.

You’re here illegally. Go home, get out, and take your anchor babies with you, or we will arrest you for breaking our laws and throw you out.

And that’s the truth. In my ideal world, anyhow.

}:-)4


2 posted on 03/21/2008 11:35:09 AM PDT by Moose4 (Hey GOP...don't move toward the middle. Move the middle toward us.)
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In a response to anti-immigrant sentiment...

There is no "anti-immigrant sentiment." There is, however, anti-ILLEGAL alien sentiment. And rightly so.

and an increase in hate crimes against Latinos

I'm going to need to see some hard numbers here. I honestly don't believe this claim is true. If there were truly an increase in "hate crimes" against Latinos, it'd be splashed across the front page of every liberal paper every day. But it's not. That in itself speaks volumes.

a Hispanic rights group launched an effort Thursday to debunk myths espoused by media talk shows and political campaigns.

Here's an idea: how about they criticize Mexico's immigration policies? If you're an illegal in that state, you get no rights, no health care, no jobs, no welfare, no advocacy, and no help whatsoever. In fact, the only thing you get is a beatdown by the federales and an unceremonious deportation back to your homeland. And they don't give a tinker's damn about your sob story.

But if the U.S. does even 1/10th of 1% of that to the illegal invaders here, we're somehow the bad guys.

Here's a clue to you pro-illegal types: how about you clean up the hellhole of your own nation instead of trying to transform our nation into one? Thank you and please leave.

3 posted on 03/21/2008 11:42:58 AM PDT by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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To: SwinneySwitch

If I may generalize, it’s not that Americans are anti-immigration, anti-immigration, anti-immigration....(repeat as much as possible), it’s that Americans are against illegal immigration.


4 posted on 03/21/2008 11:46:02 AM PDT by loungeSerf (If the theatre is on fire it's ok to shout Fire!)
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it’s that Americans are against illegal immigration.

But of course they want to leave the word 'illegal' out. They can't make it a race issue as long as that word is in there.

5 posted on 03/21/2008 11:48:22 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Illegal Alien Activity Tracking System.
http://illegal.globalincidentmap.com/home.php


6 posted on 03/21/2008 11:50:23 AM PDT by rocksblues (Tagline on hold)
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To: SwinneySwitch
Eet's seemple, Trasviña:

  1. Eef you're here Legally, you are an IMMIGRANT.

  2. Eef you are here Illegally, you are a da*ned wetback INVADER.

¿Comprende?


7 posted on 03/21/2008 11:50:52 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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see: Illegal Hispanic Hate Crimes Against White Americans
Posted January 2, 2008

Blacks are just 13 percent of the population but they commit more than half the muggings and murders in the country. Hispanics commit violent crimes at about three times the white rate.

Crime Rates
• Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
• When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.
• Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.

Interracial Crime
• Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.
• Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are black.
• Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
• Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa.
Gangs
• Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
• Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs. Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely.
Incarceration
• Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled, from 139 to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from 320,000 to 1.39 million.
• Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites. Hispanics are three times more likely.

The Color Of Crime And The New Orleans Nightmare: George W. Bush vs. Jared Taylor

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=22041

8 posted on 03/21/2008 12:00:33 PM PDT by antonia (Build the Wall Now! "Drill right now, Drill today, Drill all night, Drill all the way!")
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Immigration group looks to clear myths

Among them: They're here only to do jobs that Americans won't. They have great family values, and they are net contributors to our prosperity.

9 posted on 03/21/2008 12:05:41 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it.)
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Ooh, I want in on this, too. They pay taxes. Social Security would sink without them.


10 posted on 03/21/2008 12:21:06 PM PDT by Hoffer Rand (Forget "Who is John Galt?" I want to know "Where is Galt's Gulch?")
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To: SwinneySwitch

A visit to my local E R tells me all I need to know.


11 posted on 03/21/2008 12:23:10 PM PDT by Melinda
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In a response to anti-immigrant sentiment. . . . (Stopped reading here.)

If the organization's people don't have the courtesy and intellectual honesty to acknowledge (and make clear to all that they do understand) that our anti- sentiment is anti-ILLEGAL aliens then screw 'em.

12 posted on 03/21/2008 12:31:20 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Another group wants to splain themselves.

What a joke.


13 posted on 03/21/2008 12:39:09 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: TXnMA

Actually, if you are here legally but have no intent to stay permanently (e.g., on a work, student or tourist visa), then you’re not even an immigrant.


14 posted on 03/21/2008 1:21:04 PM PDT by RonF
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To: SwinneySwitch

Now, now, now, Swinney, let’s not talk about that. But thanks for the incoming MALDEF alert - incoming racist propoganda alert!


15 posted on 03/21/2008 1:51:50 PM PDT by Baladas
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To: SwinneySwitch

Given that they define FAIR as a hate group, I’d like to see their definition of a hate crime.


16 posted on 03/21/2008 1:53:43 PM PDT by RonF
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To: SwinneySwitch

I haven’t heard of any “hate” crimes against Latinos due to anti-illegal alien rhetoric.

Do I live under a rock or something?

Do I need to get up to speed here?


17 posted on 03/21/2008 2:19:17 PM PDT by Califreak (Hangin' with Hunter-under the bus "Dread and Circuses")
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Their real game plan is get advertisers to boycott Rush, Hannity and others that are anti illegal immigration. You’ll hear the phrase “hate speech” a lot as they try and stifle their opponents

They will pressure various media claiming they can mobilize consumer boycotts by Hispanics. They are scum and the Mexican Gov’t might be involved


18 posted on 03/21/2008 3:06:24 PM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
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To: antonia

Sssshhh.... don’t you know you’re not supposed to talk about that stuff here?


19 posted on 03/21/2008 3:30:05 PM PDT by ROP_RIP
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Quote:

Ooh, I want in on this, too. They pay taxes. Social Security would sink without them.

Comment:

Right!

Social Security Agreement with Mexico Released After 3-1/2 Year Freedom of Information Act Battle

Illegal Mexican Workers Could Receive Billions of Dollars from U.S. Social Security System

January 4, 2007 (Washington, DC) – After numerous refusals over three and a half years, the Social Security Administration (SSA) has released the first known public copy of the U.S.-Mexico Social Security Totalization Agreement. The government made the disclosure in response to lawsuits filed under the Freedom of Information Act by TREA Senior Citizens League, a 1.2 million member nonpartisan seniors advocacy group.

The Totalization Agreement could allow millions of illegal Mexican workers to draw billions of dollars from the U.S. Social Security Trust Fund.

A loophole in current Social Security law could allow millions of today’s Mexican workers to eventually collect billions of dollars worth of Social Security benefits for earnings under fraudulent or “non-work authorized” Social Security numbers, putting huge new pressures on the Social Security Trust Fund.

If an illegal worker working in the United States today gets a “work authorized” Social Security number through guest worker immigration legislation, the Totalization Agreement, or perhaps just over time, that worker could eventually apply for Social Security benefits once he or she has met eligibility requirements.

In addition, that worker could be able to claim credits for work performed while in the U.S. illegally. The SSA maintains an “earnings suspense file,” which tracks wages that cannot be posted to individual workers’ records because there is no match for a name and Social Security number. Once an immigrant gains access to a work authorized Social Security number – whether a legal citizen or not – wages earned while in the U.S. unlawfully could be reinstated to the worker’s new Social Security account.

The Congressional Research Service reports the earnings suspense file currently stands at approximately $520 billion. According to the congressional testimony of SSA Inspector General Patrick P. O’Carroll in February 2006, “We believe the chief cause of wage items being posted to the earnings suspense file instead of an individual’s earning record is unauthorized work by non citizens.”


20 posted on 03/21/2008 4:55:29 PM PDT by Cricket 23 (For those who fought for it, Freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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