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Certifying Parents
Wall Street Journal ^ | 3/22/08

Posted on 03/22/2008 8:02:47 AM PDT by captjanaway

In the annals of judicial imperialism, we have arrived at a strange new chapter. A California court ruled this month that parents cannot "home school" their children without government certification. No teaching credential, no teaching. Parents "do not have a constitutional right to home school their children," wrote California appellate Justice Walter Croskey.

The 166,000 families in the state that now choose to educate their children at home must be stunned. But at least one political lobby likes the ruling. "We're happy," the California Teachers Association's Lloyd Porter told the San Francisco Chronicle. He says the union believes all students should be taught only by "credentialed" teachers, who will in due course belong to unions.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: angrywimmin; california; dumblegunner; education; hesdrunkagain; homeschool; mccain; mumblemutter; mykidsbetterthanyors; shesangryagain
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To: Balding_Eagle
What was the response?

Lots of "uhs" and then silence. They really don't have a response! They're getting used to this. The private schools in the area are stuffed full and have long waiting lists.

141 posted on 03/22/2008 5:08:40 PM PDT by 50mm (:-O :-o - :-| ZZZZZZzzzzZZZZzzzz)
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To: TightyRighty

142 posted on 03/22/2008 5:18:53 PM PDT by humblegunner (™)
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To: adopt4Christ

If enough people would pull their kids from these kind of schools - it might force them to have to change.

Money talks louder than parent’s wishes.


143 posted on 03/22/2008 5:20:48 PM PDT by alicewonders (I'm a conservative, and I'm hated by the GOP & the Dems - I must be doing something right!)
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To: alicewonders
If enough people would pull their kids from these kind of schools - it might force them to have to change.

Public schools are like the dinosaur media - neither will change and both will eventually die from their stubborn adherence to liberal ideology.

144 posted on 03/22/2008 5:27:45 PM PDT by 50mm (:-O :-o - :-| ZZZZZZzzzzZZZZzzzz)
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To: humblegunner

Well, it was an attempt. At something. But much like your post - it came through as incoherent.


145 posted on 03/22/2008 5:28:57 PM PDT by TightyRighty
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To: torchthemummy

The fact is that most people are dumb as posts and have no business trying to teach anything.

that’s what government schools are for.

FWIW, the top line is a quote from a previous post, I should have put it into quotation marks, sorry.

the second line is my reply. look around you; most parents couldn’t be bothered with their kids education. no PTA, no meetings with teachers, nothing! i am proud that there is a strong and growing movement on the part of caring parents to take responsability for their children’s education. i am also convinced that the sad state of the gvn’t schools is in large part due to the apathy of the majority of parents.

if most parents cared about this issue, there would massive protest movments across this country. all i hear are crickets.


146 posted on 03/22/2008 5:48:59 PM PDT by tired1 (responsibility without authority is slavery!)
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To: Twink
That’s so original.

it is not... this happens to homeschoolers all of the time... we're to keep our children's accomplishments to ourselves... even if we are just stating a matter of fact, because we might make non-homeschoolers feel bad... even though that is not the intent... but we're supposed to be impressed when someone's kid is chosen as the Student of the Month...

147 posted on 03/22/2008 6:22:23 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: latina4dubya

Latina, you are so right. God forbid we should have a bumper sticker saying “I am a proud homeschooling parent!” Our car would be shot at frequently — eggs thrown on it — people flipping us off. I can picture it now.

I accept that there are millions of children who get a decent education in public schools, but generally I find them stressed out, ill-equipped to deal with real life, exhausted from peer pressure, depressed and angry from bullies, and in despair and coping by giving in to temptations like sexual activity, drinking, drugs, cutting, eating disorders, and suicidal obsessions. Typically, public school children have unfettered access to TV and internet and IPODS blasting in their ears, and feel entitled to cell phones and laptops. I think I’ve described mainstreamed public school children rather well here.

While homeschooled children might watch TV, own IPODS, and use the computer, it is monitored and handled within the framework of the family — with chores, and schoolwork, and involvement from parents at a different level. I think most public schooled children would give their right arm to have their parents care as much as ours do — to have their mom and dad KNOW what they are learning — and ask about how they feel about what their lives are like in between the school bus ride to and from school. I think children in public schools endure a level of anxiety and stress that many parents do not have a clue about.

You can call me names -— you can tell me to “go to hell” as some of you here in FR on this thread have done, sadly enough. But I have to stand before God one day to give account for the choices I made regarding my children, and I will not stand there on that day when it is my time, knowing I could have done better — sacrificed more — trusted God more — ignored the public sentiment and “peer pressure” from other parents — and offered my children MYSELF every day to homeschool them. Life is too short — we only get one chance — and my children deserve nothing less than all I can do and give them.

My speech is over. I think for the most part, I am preaching to the choir on this thread.


148 posted on 03/22/2008 7:07:25 PM PDT by adopt4Christ (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: humblegunner
My bias is based on the posts of arrogant homeschool parents who praise themselves and their little darlings to the heavens while implying that my publicly educated kids are substandard.

Don't let it get to you. Keep in mind that while there is probably a greater percentage of homeschoolers among Freeper parents than in the general population at large, they are still a minority.

149 posted on 03/23/2008 6:48:59 AM PDT by ContraryMary (New Jersey -- Superfund cleanup capital of the U.S.A.)
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To: adopt4Christ
I teach several kids that soak up the attention I give them and would blossom even more if their parents showed their love to them on a regular basis. On Thursday, every one of my 6th grade girls were crying that they wouldn't see me for 'TEN whole days!" I sent home readings for them to do over the break and I'll bet dollars to donuts that everyone of them will do it, just so they can show me their progress. They know I care, and it breaks my heart to think that me, just a teacher they will have for 1 year, nobody special really, is the one that shows them more love and respect than the family they will have forever.

Yeah, they'd give their right arm to have a mom like you - and they wouldn't care if they had an ipod, a tv, or where they were educated, as long as YOU were the constant.

Love to you sister :)

150 posted on 03/23/2008 7:38:12 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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