Posted on 03/23/2008 11:35:01 PM PDT by balch3
Yep. And I would wager there was a lot less bullying of similar kids for quite a while after that.
Reminds me of “Heathers”, but without the funny.
Yes, and if bullies were to actually be charged with assault and sent to juvenile hall or jail or a real, significant length of time, we wouldn’t have so many problems.
But they aren’t, so we have these problems...
More lawsuits against the parents of bullies would help too. A kid that bankrupts his parents is going to get it at least as good as he gave it, and then some.
Going back through the story in detail - if I were in that kid’s shoes... the ringleader of the bullies would have simply disappeared one day, without a trace. Possibly part of him would turn up in a dog bowl somewhere.
With the obvious exception of this kid with the learning disability, most kids figure out an effective way to deal with bullying if it becomes a problem. Not everyone can be like me, but I was able to confront many who bullied me without resorting to weapons, cheap-shots, shoving people down stairs or other escalation.
I may have cracked his head open, but it was a fair fight and he started it.
He shouldn't have started the shoving match with his back to a thorn bush.
He poked my butt-hole with a stick while walking past and he was promptly kicked so hard in his butt that he had to go to a urologist for months.
No repeat offenses from any of those guys. Nothing cold blooded, no cheap-shot, just kids learning I can only take so many months of their crap before I gave it all back in one fully wound up blow. One flip, one shove, one kick three kids back to treating me with decency.
And my apologies to any I might have bullied. I do regret many things I did as a youngster.
Ya’ll are missing the point. The bully may be disuaded from hitting one kid but he will move on to another. And then he will get a job with the government.
This sort of thing is what causes bullied kids to snap and bring AK-47s to school for revenge.
As for this young man, he doesn't have a lot of options. Most kids these days are indoctrinated to be sheeple by a system that doesn't know how to educate anymore. It's expecting too much to think these kids will do a darn thing when one of their own is being terrorized. To make matters worse, the face of the bully has changed, and in some cases, he is now smart enough to ingratiate himself with teachers/administrators (they were in my case).
I often say, if what goes on with regards to bullying were to happen in a foreign country, we'd be making angry proclamations from the Oval Office and the 82nd would be on the Green Ramp.
Excellent advice. :)
It's no accident they feel screwed their whole lives, get depressed and start popping meds. Then people wonder why they snap and shoot everyone at the school.
Amen
Years ago, my daughter was the target of bullies. She was a third grader and three sixth grade decided that she was a punching bag. This went on for weeks and weeks, and we went to the school and complained. The school administration would do nothing. We called the parents of the 3 bullies and they insisted their darlings would never beat up a girl. So, we enrolled her in Lee’s Self-Defense School, where her first lessons were self defense for young women. Seven weeks later, while walking home from school, the three boys decided it was time to beat her up again. Result: one bully had his index finger snapped (broke), one lost his four front teeth, and the third had his nose broke. The school officials called, had us come in and then had the audacity to lecture us on how irresponsible it was for us to have her learn karate.
She was never beat up again, however.
A friend of mine’s mother used your philosophy on her daughter’s ex-boyfriend who decided stalking would be a fun endeavor. This was before any anti-stalking laws existed and the police wouldn’t do anything, so mom decided to turn the tables. She basically started stalking the stalker. She drove up to his house one night and fired a round into his living room window, she called him on the phone and told him that she missed on purpose that time, but if he ever had any contact with her daughter after that, she gauranteed him she wouldn’t miss the next time. He left her alone after that.
[[They start to hate themselves because even though they are being good, nobody believes them and the ‘bad’ kids get all the social attention.]]
They'll really hate them selves if they run from a fight!
When my daughter was 7, there was a little boy at school who kept punching her in the tummy. After i realized the school was not going to help at all, i just told her to fight him. 2 days latter i get a call at work to come to school, my daughter had been in a fight. When i got to the principles office, there she was sitting outside in a chair crying. After consoling here i went in and immediately ask the principle why she was the only one sitting in the office. I was told the little boy had to taken to the ER. Seems my daughter busted that boy over the head with her Fonsie Lunch Box and he required 4 stitches in his head. That boy never messed with her again.
Most teachers and administrators in our gov't run schools don't deserve any faith -- or any respect either. I too dealt with bullying growing up . Only stopped when I finally beat the tar out of one of the biggest bullies, mostly through sheer surprise. I'm sure he could not believe what was happening, but then again, neither could I really.
If you don't stand up for yourself when you are a kid, nobody else will. And unless you are very lucky, the school WILL punish you for it. After all, that's a challenge to their authority, which is all many of them really care about.
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I bet he had **NO** faith in his parents either!
So...When every adult in his life has failed to protect him, has ignored the obvious, has abandoned him, do you think he will respect the advice they give him about prudent living? Do you think he will respect their advice about doing drugs, casual sex, faith in God, or love of country?
When we abuse children ( who have committed no crime) and treat them like prisoners in prison-like schools, we shouldn't be surprised that there is a “generation gap”.
The Prussian model, brick and mortar, prison-like, factory school should be abandoned!
It is cruel to warehouse children, and we should **not** be surprised that they learn prison survival “socialization” skills in these soulless places. Thankfully, humans are highly adaptable, most unlearn the highly dysfunctional socialization learned in school. They must unlearn the bad social habits picked up in school if they are to succeed on the job, in marriage, in the community, and get along with their extended families.
Anyone else note one of the recurring themes here? The school administrators are almost universally useless in cases of bullying, only taking action that hurts the bullied when they finally stand up for themselves. What can be done about that? I know most of them are libtards and therefore utterly impervious to facts, reason, etc. Maybe lawsuits? Private schooling if you can afford it (because those administrators need to keep their customers happy or they lose their jobs)? Homeschooling (not allowed in CA anymore)? Any other ideas?
I totally agree with you. Don’t start the fight, but make sure you finish it.
I have noticed that almost all of these school stories are from so-called “good” schools. Yet, we have government school defenders on this board who insist that this never happens in their child's “good” government school.
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