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Serbia asks UN for partitioning of Kosovo
Guardian UK ^ | March 25, 2008 | Ian Traynor

Posted on 03/24/2008 7:25:04 PM PDT by Diocletian

Serbia has formally proposed partitioning Kosovo along ethnic lines for the first time, asking the United Nations to ensure that Belgrade can control key institutions and functions in areas of the newly independent country where Serbs form a majority. In a document sent to the UN in New York, proposed to the UN in Kosovo last week and published in the Belgrade press yesterday, the government in Belgrade insists that Serbia be allowed to control the police, the courts, the judiciary and customs in the Serbian enclaves in Kosovo and in the northern strip around the tense Serb-controlled town of Mitrovica. Described as a blueprint for the "functional division of Serbs and Kosovo Albanians" by the Serbian minister pushing the policy, the proposal is the nearest Serbia has come to calling openly for partition, although it is working on the ground on Kosovo to make the division a reality. The Serbian government of Vojislav Kostunica, which utterly rejects Kosovan independence, never officially urges the ethnic partition since to do so would be to forfeit its claim to Serbian sovereignty over all of Kosovo. But the proposal acknowledges the UN as the sole authority in Kosovo, rejecting the legitimacy of both the Kosovo government and the EU mission that is supposed to take over from the UN over the next three months. Clashes between Serbs and UN and Nato forces in Mitrovica last week left one Ukrainian dead and scores injured. The UN said Belgrade was behind the trouble, which erupted over a Serbian takeover of a local courthouse. Mitrovica Serbs are promising to stage a large demonstration again today in the town, which Serbia has controlled for most of the nine-year UN mission in Kosovo.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antichristian; balkans; dhimmwit; illegalimmigrants; islamofascists; jihad; kosovo; mohammedanism; serbia; wrongside

1 posted on 03/24/2008 7:25:04 PM PDT by Diocletian
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To: kosta50; montyspython; getoffmylawn; Hoplite; Bokababe; kronos77; Ravnagora

thoughts?


2 posted on 03/24/2008 7:26:01 PM PDT by Diocletian
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To: Diocletian
so sad that the Serbs are giving some of their country to radical Albanian muslims.

So sad that radical islam has done what it what it wanted to do there with the help of appeasement from the west.

The Serbs should not give an inch of their land IMHO

3 posted on 03/24/2008 7:29:20 PM PDT by manc (o)
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To: manc

also if the likes of the guardian and the BBC reported exactly what has happened there then outrage would ensue but of course the media as usual takes the other view especially chrisiana ammapour


4 posted on 03/24/2008 7:31:11 PM PDT by manc (o)
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To: manc

It’s already gone. Period. If they can get northern Kosovo, they should be very satisfied... I’ve said all along,they should try to get a partition... There’s no way that keeping all of it was sustainable...


5 posted on 03/24/2008 7:33:40 PM PDT by NYC Republican (John McCain- Snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory...)
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To: manc

The partition plan was actually floated during the Slobodan Milosevic days.....Albanians have an incredibly high birthrate.


6 posted on 03/24/2008 7:34:14 PM PDT by Diocletian
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To: Diocletian
Partition may be acknowledging reality on the ground and forfeiting Serbia's claim to sovereignty over all of its territory (which is even in the constitution).

I am sure the partitioning will be worded as "temporary" or something to the effect similar to UN SC Resolution 1244 which allowed "temporary" occupation of Kosovo by NATO forces, and which also guaranteed the return of Serbian authorities in Kosovo's institutions, and recognized Kosovo as integral part of a UN recognized member state to which present-day Serbia is a full inheritor.

This may be a slap in the face of the US which wants to built another NATO fortress on the outskirts of Russia, because it made statement that Kosovo's indpeendence is "irrevocable" and "permanent." Of course, nothing is! So it is expected that the US will oppose and all its lapdog member EU states will do as the master tells them (roll, play dead, bark, etc.)

This is all part of the "contingency plan" drawn up by the Serbian government to increase pressure, step-wise, in making its claims. Remember also that despite all the hoopla the Resolution 1244 is still in full force.

7 posted on 03/24/2008 7:37:51 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: NYC Republican
"It’s already gone. Period. If they can get northern Kosovo, they should be very satisfied.."

It's been "gone" before. This isn't the first time some major power ripped Kosovo away from the Serbs. But the Serbs always get it back sooner or later -- historically, it's been when that major power overextends themselves and finds messing with the Balkans to be too costly, and it has usually proved to be that major power's undoing.

8 posted on 03/24/2008 7:43:12 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Diocletian

like all muslims really.

I hope the serbs can save part of Kosovo I really do


9 posted on 03/24/2008 7:44:22 PM PDT by manc (o)
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To: Bokababe

Very true.


10 posted on 03/24/2008 7:46:07 PM PDT by Diocletian
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To: Diocletian
thoughts?

The Contact Group Guiding Principles of November 2005 make clear that there should be: no return of Kosovo to the pre-1999 situation, no partition of Kosovo, and no union of Kosovo with any or part of another country.

Next?

11 posted on 03/24/2008 8:14:30 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; vooch; ...

12 posted on 03/24/2008 10:41:07 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Diocletian

It’s really sad to see the Serbs assent to the division of their own country.


13 posted on 03/24/2008 10:44:25 PM PDT by Content Provider
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To: Content Provider
"It’s really sad to see the Serbs assent to the division of their own country.

Northern Kosovo controls the water supply for the south, including the water supply to Camp Bondsteel. There was no way that the US was going to allow that to be messed with.

This has nothing to do with what is fair or right, it has to do with "want" and "need".

14 posted on 03/24/2008 10:57:45 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

I can’t believe my country is involved in this, it disgusts me.

We’re supposed to be fighting Islamic terror, and in the course of that we set up a new terrorist state in Europe AND royally piss off two nations who have long histories of fighting Islamics?

The world is turned on its head.


15 posted on 03/24/2008 11:03:09 PM PDT by Content Provider
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To: Diocletian
"This isn't the first time some major power ripped Kosovo away from the Serbs. But the Serbs always get it back sooner or later -- historically, it's been when that major power overextends themselves and finds messing with the Balkans to be too costly, and it has usually proved to be that major power's undoing."

"Very true."

The Ottoman Empire, Austro-Hungary, and Nazi Germany all met their fate in the Balkans when they overreached themselves and messed with Balkan politics. This is why I wanted to the US to stay out of there and not take ANY side, not even the Serb side. There is just some kind of hoodoo on that place when it comes to major powers messing with it.

I know that many think, "It will be different this time" Ding, ding, ding -- I don't think so! Hillary may have just lost all hope of winning the election based on lying about what? Bosnia! The curse continues -- and I couldn't be more pleased with who got the hoodoo this time!

16 posted on 03/24/2008 11:16:35 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Content Provider
"I can’t believe my country is involved in this, it disgusts me."

I was at the State Capitol in Sacramento today. And I was standing there thinking about someone I knew as a kid -- Rose Anne Vuich -- first female Senator for the State of California back in the 1970's. Rose Anne Vuich was one tough cookie. The ladies room in the Senate is actually called "The Rose Room", because she got sick and tired of using the secretaries' restroom down all the way at the other end of the hall & demanded a ladies room adjacent to the Senate. Female senators today use it and don't even know or think about her and what she went through to get that ladies room. The major freeway that runs through Fresno, California is also named after her -- another tough fight.

It just hit me just how much one little American Serb girl from a farm in the outskirts of Fresno (Dinuba) changed the way things ran in the State of California.

Yet today, all "Serbs" -- and even Serb-Americans are supposed to be "suspect". Glad Rose Anne didn't live long enough to see what's happening in Kosovo -- she'd be setting fire to the Capitol lawn, before allowing any politicians today get away with doing this without a fight!

17 posted on 03/24/2008 11:39:48 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Hoplite; Diocletian; All
The Contact Group Guiding Principles of November 2005 make clear that there should be: no return of Kosovo to the pre-1999 situation, no partition of Kosovo, and no union of Kosovo with any or part of another country.

The Contact Group is an informal grouping of influential countries. They have NO legal power. UNSCR 1244 remains the framework for the ongoing status process. However, it is good that they recognize the unity of Kosovo within Serbia!

18 posted on 03/25/2008 5:38:14 AM PDT by F-117A (Mr. Bush, have someone read UN Resolution 1244 to you!!!)
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To: Diocletian
This is a foregone conclusion. The corrupt UN and NATO states have create their own little country just by their own might. A reversal would be tantamount to an admission of guilt.

I think the big question is what will become of the Nation State since a nation can be dismantled by a more powerful group of nations at any point in time? What legal and moral right does NATO have in building nations?

NATO has certainly demonstrated that the Nation State is a obsolete concept for those who do not fall in line with their interests. Rules only apply to the governed even though the governed never consented to being governed. This is imperialism.

They are trying to dilute national identities in Europe because they are telling us that nationalism is the cause of war, but they fail to realize that Islam is not a nation. In fact, Islam sees this as an opportunity. I suppose then religion will be next.

Yet, it's NATO that was fanning nationalistic flames to break up the Russian sphere of influence. They needed nationalism to create distinctions between a Russian and the Georgian just as they needed it to create distinctions between the Kosovar and the Serb. The result? Pure hatred for generations to come. Better off? No, but the empire has certain expanded.

However, some EU members will find themselves fighting to preserve their own national identity and self determination when they find out they fought a war just to hand over their sovereignty and self determination to some pin head in Brussels.

19 posted on 03/25/2008 6:16:00 AM PDT by SQUID
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To: F-117A
The Contact Group is an informal grouping of influential countries. They have NO legal power.

Not as the Contact Group.

But within the Contact Group are 4 of the 5 permanent members of the UNSC, and the Contact Group has gone with the Ahtisaari plan, which is why the Ahtisaari plan is being implemented in Kosovo as we speak.

Whether you choose to accept it or prefer to comfort yourself with denial is really irrelevant.

20 posted on 03/25/2008 6:50:01 AM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Diocletian

I think it is a proposal to organize serbian enclaves and northern part of Kosovo with serbian majority in the way that is close to status of Republika Srpska in Bosnian Federation.

Novosti Publishes Proposed Deal Between Serbia, UNMIK


BELGRADE, March 24, 2008 (BETA) - The March 24 issue of the Belgrade daily Vecernje Novosti reported on a proposed agreement on the joint implementation of U.N. Resolution 1244 between UNMIK and Serbia, which Serbian Minister for Kosovo and Metohija Slobodan Samardzic presented to the international mission.

The title of the document reads “Agreement Between UNMIK and the Republic of Serbia for the Joint Implementation of Resolution 1244 of the U.N. Security Council After the Illegal Proclamation of Independence by the Interim Institutions of Kosovo,” the report said.

The proposed agreement was drafted in cooperation between the Foreign Ministry and the Ministry for Kosovo and Metohija, and represents a part of the action plan adopted by the government of Serbia, the daily reported.

The proposal confirms the validity of Resolution 1244, which can be enforced through cooperation between Serbia and UNMIK, and commitment to previous agreements between UNMIK and Serbia and UNMIK and the former Yugoslavia.

According to the document, the office formed by the Ministry for Kosovo and Metohija is to be recognized as the successor to the Coordinating Center for Kosovo and Metohija. The goal of the office would be to facilitate the implementation of the program for development in Kosovo and for cooperation with UNMIK and KFOR.

“UNMIK and Serbia concur that they should intensify cooperation in the areas of police, the justice system, customs, transport, controlling the administrative line between Serbia and Kosovo, and religious, historical and cultural heritage,” Novosti said quoting the proposal.

According to the document, Serb police officers in Kosovo would report to local Serb authorities and be under the command of the UNMIK police.

Kosovo Serbs would be entitled to “resolve their own judicial issues, while international UNMIK judges are responsible for cases involving members of different ethnic communities.”

Serbia and UNMIK would commit to contribute to the development of free trade between Kosovo and Serbia proper, while no other trade barriers would be imposed.

“Should any third party establish any trade barriers, the Kosovo Serbs have the right to establish their own customs authority,” the proposal reads.

“When it comes to religious, historical and cultural heritage, monitoring of policy implementation will be performed through cooperation between UNMIK and Serbia, and these forces established in the shortest possible time, with the aim of becoming operational by May 2008,” Vecernje Novosti said.

Samardzic submitted the document to UNMIK on March 16. The coalition partners of his party, the Democratic Party of Serbia, have stated that they had not had access to the document.

http://www.beta.co.yu/default.asp?h=English,en


21 posted on 03/25/2008 7:28:30 AM PDT by BabaYaga (BRE!)
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To: BabaYaga

Unofficially, KiM Minister’s proposal characterized by UN as unacceptable
Samardzic’s agreement far from reality

It is almost impossible that the agreement that Serbia Minister for Kosovo and Metohija Slobodan Samardzic has forwarded to the UNMIK in Pristina is going to be accepted, a ‘Blic’ source at the UN says. The agreement that envisages functional separation of the Serbian community has been characterized as unacceptable and practically not possible to be implemented in the field.

The agreement stipulates respect of the UN SC Resolution 1244 and cooperation between Serbia and the UNMIK mission, but also separation of Kosovo Serbs in the sphere of judicial and executive authority. The agreement does not refer to the Serbs in the northern Kosovo only, but also to all regions where Serbs constitute a majority.
According to this proposal claimed by Minister Samardzic to have been derived from the Action plan adopted by Serbia Government, ‘Serbian policemen would be responsible to the local authorities and act under the command by UNMIK’. The proposal also envisages free trade between ‘Kosovo and the other part of the Republic of Serbia’.
To put it shortly, the proposed agreement is an attempt of reaffirmation of the Resolution 1244. However, experts on Kosovo circumstances claim that this document is a ‘wish list’.
The Minister for KiM has tried by this agreement to reconfirm in the circumstances that occurred after unilateral proclamation of independence, the forms of cooperation with the UN mission as per the Resolution 1244 that Serbia recognizes as valid. Such proposal is also coming at the time when certain international officials announce transfer of authority from the UN onto the EU mission, the latter one being considered by Belgrade as completely illegal.
The agreement also tries to prevent transfer of authority onto Kosovo institutions. However, certain points of the agreement cannot be implemented in the field, especially in other parts of Kosovo and Metohija.
As ‘Blic’ learns the only thing that the Serbs can hope for when judicial system is concerned are the privileges at employment. Serbian judges would be in the majority of Serbian areas while in areas with mixed population the relation between the employees should be balanced even in the cases where Serbs are in a smaller number. The international judges will be in the special court only. That court is to deal with the organized crime and ethnically motivated crimes.
Experts in economy also view the proposed agreement as difficult or impossible to implement in the field. They say that Kosovo Serbs cannot trade separately from Kosovo Albanians.
As expected, Pristina has already opposed the agreement.
Nevertheless, Swedish Foreign Minister Karl Bildt confirmed that negotiations between the Serbs and Albanians in the part concerning the everyday life shall no doubt be led.
Samardzic said yesterday that after the Catholic Easter he would continue talks with UNMIK representatives over the proposed agreement. He confirmed that the agreement was construed in agreement with the Foreign Ministry and that ‘its goal is to define the relations between Serbia and UNMIK in the present situation’.
Although the document stipulates that its author is Serbia Government, it was disputable for some of the ministers.
‘I cannot comment on the proposal since it was not debated at the Government’, Serbia Defense Minister Dragan Sutanovac said.
Minister Mladjan Dinkic confirmed what Sutanovac had claimed.

http://www.blic.co.yu/infocus.php?id=1827


22 posted on 03/25/2008 8:12:35 AM PDT by BabaYaga (BRE!)
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To: SQUID
"The corrupt UN and NATO states have create their own little country just by their own might. "

Think that this photo pretty much sums up what the Serbs think of NATO.


23 posted on 03/25/2008 9:29:58 AM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: NYC Republican

Reflect on your words when Aztlan is taken by the illegal immigrants from Mexico.


24 posted on 03/25/2008 4:15:15 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Hoplite

Dhimmitude is not a fit for everyone.

Kneepads, like the reason for using them, just fit some folks better.


25 posted on 03/25/2008 4:16:51 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Content Provider
It's the reality on the ground... They need to shoot for the northern Serb-populated areas, break off there, as it's mostly Serb (same arguement that Kosovo used to break away from Serbia)...

IMHO, there's NO way the Serbs really want to rule over an Albanian majority in the rest of Serbia. It would be constant conflicts... Shoot for the North, and move on... The best possible solution for all, IMO

26 posted on 03/26/2008 6:03:26 AM PDT by NYC Republican (John McCain- Snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory...)
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To: Hoplite; F-117A

Hoppy, when did you first realize that you were called to Dhimmitude?

Were you getting pancakes for a superior?


27 posted on 04/05/2008 6:31:25 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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