Posted on 03/25/2008 4:51:20 AM PDT by rosenfan
Two evolutionary biologists — P. Z. Myers of the University of Minnesota, Morris, and Richard Dawkins of Oxford — tried to go to the movies at the Mall of America in Minneapolis Thursday evening. Dr. Dawkins got in. Dr. Myers did not.
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Boo hoo, they held a private screening of their movie and after they caught me lying about my name they would not let me into their party. So then I went and told on them to the NY Slimes newspaper.
Yawn.
Talk about bias and failing to understand the issue.
"Creationism" is a philosophy that the universe is created because it has been divinely revealed to be. It is based on a faith. And there is nothing wrong with it of course.
Intelligent Design, however, is a falsifiable methodology used to detect design and when applied to DNA indicates it to be designed. It is science.
If this is a commercial theater, I don’t know the basis on which the ownership denied entry. However, since commercial businesses are privately owned, then how they run their business is up to them. If they don’t want me in, then they can prevent my trespass. I firmly believe in property rights of private owners.
If they had some indication that movie goers were to be subjected to diatribes in the middle of the movie by these “fervid” two opponents, then I’d say they have every right to protect their movie establishment and its purpose of providing movie going pleasure to their clientele.
It reveals Dawkins to be a bit of a nut. I think everyone agrees on that, anyway, whether they consider him articulate in his field or not.
Not everyone, believe it or not. Some here on the forum think he’s some kind of hero.
How is Intelligent Design Falsifiable ?
Just Curious.
Both of those guys are hard-core ideologues who could justifiably be excluded from ANY sort of event at which honest and intelligent people were gathered.
>Boo hoo, they held a private screening of their movie and after they caught me lying about my name they would not let me into their party. So then I went and told on them to the NY Slimes newspaper.
Yawn.<<
Actually he was registered accurately.
And they can exclude whom they like.
But its ironic they would ban someone who doesn’t agree from seeing a film that claims there is a conspiracy to ban people who don’t agree with evolution.
>>Intelligent Design, however, is a falsifiable methodology used to detect design and when applied to DNA indicates it to be designed. It is science.<<
If Intelligent design is shown to be a falsifiable and useful theory it would be science.
I have not seen anything that indicates that is the case.
Even presuming there is no link what-so-ever, then what is the basis for outrage? The film would have had to make a moral comparison between Nazi ethics and evolutionary ethics. But wait, evolution is simply a theory, not a system of ethics...right?
Dawkins and logic are like oil and water.
Dawkins is not an honest individual.
And you are certainly entitled to your opinon, but please do not make your opinon sound as if it is fact.
She said it was “just tacky” that the producers barred Dr. Myers from the screening, but added, “I don’t think it’s inappropriate for us to have a good laugh at the creationists’ expense.”
Dr. Dawkins said the hoopla has been “a gift” to those who oppose creationism. “We could not ask for anything better,” he said.
I fail to see what is so "funny" about someone being denied access to a private function. Or what makes this such a "gift". If anything, it will illustrate the point. Here's some evolutionary scientist getting all worked up because he couldn't even go into a movie.
Meanwhile, scientists in all fields who make the mistake of saying they believe in creation are being thrown out of their jobs.
It was a private screening. Imagine if one of the people Michael Moore made fun of in his movies tried to crash one of his original private screenings, and Moore simply refused entry. Nobody would be taking the side of the party-crasher.
Only someone blinded by bias can think that what I wrote was not factual.
Dr. Myers did not attempt to hide who he was.
‘In an interview, Dr. Myers said he registered himself and “guests” on a Web site for the film’s screening. A security guard pulled him out of the line but admitted his wife, daughter and guests — including Dr. Dawkins, who, Dr. Myers said, no one seemed to recognize. Dr. Dawkins, who like everyone was asked to present identification, said he offered his British passport, which lists him as Clinton Richard Dawkins.’
bttt
If what you said is factural than it can be proved, please be my guest and prove your allegations.
Why bother searching for evidence that evolution doesn't explain every element of life? For the same reason poeple search for intelligent extra-terrestrial life. Their intuition tells them that they might find something.
If you use Dembski's filters and find a false positive -- show that they indicates something of known random occurrence to be designed -- you will falsify his methodology.
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