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Schwarzenegger: Illegal immigrants not to blame for budget mess
Sacramento Bee ^ | Wednesday, March 26, 2008 | Kevin Yamamura

Posted on 03/26/2008 12:34:42 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, responding to the mother of a Republican state legislator, said Wednesday it would be a "big mistake" to blame illegal immigrants for the state's looming $8 billion budget problem.

The Republican governor was in San Luis Obispo to pitch his budget proposal to local officials and business leaders when he was asked by Diane Blakeslee, mother of Assemblyman Sam Blakeslee, R-San Luis Obispo, how the state should handle fiscal burdens created by illegal immigrants.

"There is, you know, always a time like this where you start pointing the finger at various different elements of what creates the budget mess, and, you know, some may point the finger at illegal immigrants," Schwarzenegger said. "I can guarantee you, I have been now four years in office in Sacramento, I don't think that illegal immigration has created the mess that we are in."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; arnoldschwarzenegger; bullpuckey; horsefeathers; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; pshaw; roadapples
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Wow.
1 posted on 03/26/2008 12:34:42 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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To: SierraWasp; calcowgirl; NormsRevenge

ping


2 posted on 03/26/2008 12:35:06 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When you choose the lesser of two evils, you still have evil.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

what an idiot rhino


3 posted on 03/26/2008 12:35:30 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: ElkGroveDan

OK, how about we blame greedy politicians with their hands on taxpayers’ wallets, pandering to illegals, Arnie? Is that more accurate?


4 posted on 03/26/2008 12:36:35 PM PDT by Hoffer Rand (Forget "Who is John Galt?" I want to know "Where is Galt's Gulch?")
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To: ElkGroveDan

Putting a 50% fee on wiring money out of the country would help address the shortfall. It would also send a lot of crimmigrants elsewhere.


5 posted on 03/26/2008 12:37:27 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Schwarzenegger needs to quit calling himself a Republican. He isn't even a RINO. He's married to a frikin’ Kennedy for Pete's sake! He's a raging-flamming-libtard to the core.
6 posted on 03/26/2008 12:37:29 PM PDT by avacado (Thomas Sowell: "Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face.")
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To: ElkGroveDan

The Stupinator strikes again...


7 posted on 03/26/2008 12:37:34 PM PDT by KenHorse (I am Shakespeare of Borg. Prepare to be or not to be)
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To: ElkGroveDan

To be fair, the mess started in the legislature. And since there are no illegal aliens in the CA legislature, Aaaaahnold is correct.


8 posted on 03/26/2008 12:37:48 PM PDT by Redcloak (Yeah... Sure... McCain. Why not.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
it would be a "big mistake" to blame illegal immigrants for the state's looming $8 billion budget problem. - Thats true, Arnold is a legal immigrant
9 posted on 03/26/2008 12:38:17 PM PDT by SF Republican (Conservatives wanted all or nothing, and they got it.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Illegals are not the problem...

It's the entitlement mentality and mandatory spending proposals that keep getting passed. Illegals just fall under that umbrella.

10 posted on 03/26/2008 12:38:34 PM PDT by misterrob (Obama-Does America Need Another Jimmy Carter?)
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To: ElkGroveDan; HiJinx; gubamyster

There you have it. The millions of illegal invaders in Cali are not to blame for the budget mess.


11 posted on 03/26/2008 12:38:47 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: ElkGroveDan
It sure as hell hasn't helped it, Arnie. Look at how much illegals in Los Angeles county get in WELFARE. JUST welfare--not education, not hospitals, not jails, not overcrowded roads and freeways, not...you get the idea.

Oh wait--no you don't.
12 posted on 03/26/2008 12:40:13 PM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: BurbankKarl
Based on his words...I agree with him.

The mess isn't solely because of illegal aliens. It's a FACTOR though....How large is anyone's guess.....

IMO, Liberal Democrat domination in the state government..is a far greater cause of the fiscal mess they find themselves in.

Glad I'm long gone from there...

13 posted on 03/26/2008 12:40:28 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Hillary's heart is darker than the devil's riding boots.................)
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To: ElkGroveDan
F’ing bull$h!t Arnold.

Let's look at the cost of education alone.
I was told it is $7,000 for a regular citizen kid and $14,000 for an illegal kid.

After you do the math of $14,000 times the millions of illegal kids you get probably near 3 billion of debt a year right there.

We ban illegals in school without payment from their countries and we save 8 billion in a couple of years.

Add to that the cost of medical, the lack of tax payments a year and probably the state goes 5 or more billion a year in debt with illegals without a doubt.

Educate the kids in a tent city or make the illegals go pay for baby sitters.

14 posted on 03/26/2008 12:41:08 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Technically, he's right. It was the Legislature spending ridiculous amounts of money in an attempt to win the favor and future votes of the shiftless, the indigent, the criminal, and illegal immigrants which has caused the problem.
15 posted on 03/26/2008 12:41:46 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Ahrnald has turned into a girlie man!


16 posted on 03/26/2008 12:42:20 PM PDT by meandog (Please pray for future President McCain--day minus 300 and counting! Stay home and get Baraked!)
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To: ConservaTexan

Crimmigrants... very good. Why didn’t we come up with that before?


17 posted on 03/26/2008 12:42:33 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Some think McCain should pick his No 2 now. I thought the nominee was No 2. And that No 1s me off!)
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To: ElkGroveDan

He is, what a maroon.


18 posted on 03/26/2008 12:42:35 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: ElkGroveDan

HOw much does medi-cal pay out a year to reimburse california hospitals for illegals using them as free birthing centers and emergency rooms as their healthcare provider?

How much does the state have to pay each year for the public education and bi-lingual instruction of illegals?

How much does the state have to pay each year for the housing of illegal immigrants in prisons and jails?


19 posted on 03/26/2008 12:42:35 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: ElkGroveDan

A person does not pay into a system yet, takes advantage of that service.

A person does not pay into a system yet, receives money or in-kind benefits

According to our Governor, they are not to blame for budget problems.

So if you are spending more then you are taking it, that is not the problem, according to our Governor, the problem is you are not taking enough from those paying into a system they do not use.

I got all that right?


20 posted on 03/26/2008 12:43:40 PM PDT by edcoil (Go Great in 08 ... Slide into 09)
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To: ElkGroveDan

I don’t blame the illegal aliens. I blame the political types who have allowed them to overrun our borders and soak up taxpayer money.

susie


21 posted on 03/26/2008 12:44:06 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Well, he’s right. They’re only partly to blame.

The chief blame falls on: Arnold Schwarzenegger.


22 posted on 03/26/2008 12:45:16 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: BurbankKarl
what an idiot rhino

Amen! Everytime I see, or even see the cover of, one of his movies I think: "What a jerk."

23 posted on 03/26/2008 12:45:24 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: ElkGroveDan
DAn, Send this to the Gov.

Now.................

I hope the following 14 reasons are read so many times that the readers get sick of reading them. I have included the URL’s for verification of the following facts.

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year.
http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that’s two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border.

Homeland Security Report
http://www.house.gov/mccaul/pdf/Investigaions-Border-Report.pdf

12. The National Policy Institute, ‘estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.’
http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/publications.php?b=deportation

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.
http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14. ‘The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States’.
http://www.drdsk.com/articles.html#Illegals

The total cost is a whooping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR !


24 posted on 03/26/2008 12:45:49 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( (Give a person a fish .......Teach a person to use the Internet and they won't bother you for weeks)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Heah me now, beeleef me latuh:
M-O-O-N. Ya, dat spells “moon”.


25 posted on 03/26/2008 12:46:35 PM PDT by tumblindice (McCain and Democrats agree: It's only `hate speech' if it's from Ann C.)
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To: Redcloak

LOL.


26 posted on 03/26/2008 12:47:26 PM PDT by UlmoLordOfWaters
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To: ElkGroveDan; calcowgirl; SierraWasp; Carry_Okie; NormsRevenge
Well, OK then, how about we place blame on the three elements most blameworthy, in descending order: (1) The Austrian; (2) The clowns in Sacramento who pass for what we laughingly call the Legislature, and (3) Illegal aliens which are in fact a huge financial drag on this state.

There. All fixed.

27 posted on 03/26/2008 12:48:08 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: BurbankKarl

“what an idiot rhino”

I don’t know what is worse, Arnold’s comments or the radio playing McCain’s comments on lowering American standards and global warming.


28 posted on 03/26/2008 12:49:12 PM PDT by edcoil (Go Great in 08 ... Slide into 09)
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To: ElkGroveDan

There is absolutely no limit to how far the OBL types will go in their denial.

My kids could do the math!

But, as some other posters noted, illegal immigrants technically are not to blame because they are not making the decisions.

The brain dead empty suits including the governer are to blame!

They have put far too much work into creating some of their voting blocs to give it up now.


29 posted on 03/26/2008 12:49:32 PM PDT by Califreak (Hangin' with Hunter-under the bus "Dread and Circuses")
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To: ElkGroveDan

30 posted on 03/26/2008 12:50:14 PM PDT by byteback
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
HOw much does medi-cal pay out a year to reimburse california hospitals for illegals using them as free birthing centers and emergency rooms as their healthcare provider?

1.4 Billion Dollars. (2004)

How much does the state have to pay each year for the public education and bi-lingual instruction of illegals?

7.7 Billion Dollars. (2004)

How much does the state have to pay each year for the housing of illegal immigrants in prisons and jails?

1.4 Billion dollars. (2004)

31 posted on 03/26/2008 12:50:19 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: ElkGroveDan

Folks, I happen to agree with Schwarzenegger. The problem we now face was caused by a legal immigrant that:

1. Refused to make the cuts he promised
2. Refused to deport Illegal Alien Crimmigrants
3. Refused to take on the teacher’s unions and get the money they waste into the classroom
4. Refused to reign in the out of control state commissions
5. Refused to reign in the environmentalist movements that receive state dollars
6. Refused to stop universities from wasting money, time and other resources trying to brainwash graduate students and brow beat businesses and private owners with tyranical environmentalist hogwash

Yes Arnold, you are right. All of this would have been fixed if only this legal immigrant had two fully functioning brain cells to rub together.

Sadly, you don’t.


32 posted on 03/26/2008 12:50:47 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Some think McCain should pick his No 2 now. I thought the nominee was No 2. And that No 1s me off!)
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To: ElkGroveDan

sigh.

thx!


33 posted on 03/26/2008 12:52:31 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline —1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRGeT)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Schwarzenegger: Illegal immigrants not to blame for budget mess

No of course not. They don't collect welfare, they always pay taxes, they spend their money here in the USA rather than sending it back to Mexico, their kids don't crowd the schools, no government has "English as a Second Language" programs for their kids at taxpayer expense, and they certainly don't commit crimes or take up jail space.

34 posted on 03/26/2008 12:53:52 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: ElkGroveDan

True. I blame the idiots in the federal gov’t and the CA gov’t for inviting them in.


35 posted on 03/26/2008 12:53:54 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: ElkGroveDan
"I can guarantee you, I have been now four years in office in Sacramento, I don't think that illegal immigration has created the mess that we are in."

Arnold is right. Instead, he is to blame for the mess--reckless spending and borrowing into oblivion.

If illegal immigration was controlled, we should have tax cuts.

36 posted on 03/26/2008 12:54:14 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Redcloak
To be fair, the mess started in the legislature.

Civics question: Who proposes the budget, has final approval authority, and has the power of line item veto?

37 posted on 03/26/2008 12:55:53 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: ElkGroveDan

I’m just glad I don’t live in California. But, the problem of illegal immigration is moving to every other state. The fight over illegal immigration has to be won in California for the sake of the rest of us.


38 posted on 03/26/2008 12:57:19 PM PDT by TheThinker (Capitalism is the natural result of a democratic government.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

One can’t possibly fix a problem if they can’t identify what the problem is.


39 posted on 03/26/2008 12:57:22 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Because breaking the law is free.


40 posted on 03/26/2008 12:57:28 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: AuntB; Digital Sniper

Ping


41 posted on 03/26/2008 12:59:07 PM PDT by indcons (Proud member of FR's ChiCom Troll Hunting Society.)
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To: Hoffer Rand
OK, how about we blame greedy politicians with their hands on taxpayers’ wallets, pandering to illegals, Arnie? Is that more accurate?

Ding ding ding!

42 posted on 03/26/2008 12:59:31 PM PDT by Scarpetta (e pluribus victim)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Its also because they're taxing and regulating businesses right of the People's Republik of Kalifornia...
43 posted on 03/26/2008 1:02:12 PM PDT by Little Ray (McCain: If I have to. I guess...)
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To: DoughtyOne

7. Championed spending over 1/2 Billion per year on government baby sitting (after school programs)
8. Promoted spending $3 Billion ($6B with interest) on embryonic stem-cell research
9. Sponsored a host of multi-billion dollar, unaffordable, economically non-viable projects such as the hydrogen highway and million solar roofs programs.
10. Is spending billions to introduce greenhouse gas regulation and a cap-and-trade program for the global warming hoax.
11. Caused 7% of the budget to be dedicated to debt service due to irresponsible borrowing.


44 posted on 03/26/2008 1:05:04 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: DoughtyOne

I have been using crimmigrants on free republic for over a year. It hasn’t caught on.


45 posted on 03/26/2008 1:08:25 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: indcons

I saw the headline. Couldn’t stomach reading it. I’ve decided what I’m going to be when I grow up. One of those head in the sand types who practices and believes ignorance is bliss.....


46 posted on 03/26/2008 1:09:01 PM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: BurbankKarl

He says what he has too in order to survive.

The unfortunate thing is that he proves that he’s baseless and without principal in the process.


47 posted on 03/26/2008 1:09:24 PM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: calcowgirl

Of course, the Governator proposes his budget, but the Legislature porks it up beyond all recognition. He can use the line item veto to eliminate specific programs, but not to scale any back. In other words, if he wants $10 dollars to study the effects of Britney Spears’ lost underwear on the reproductive habits of the Death Valley Spotted Mudskipper, he can either accept the legislature’s increase of that budget item to $2.5 million or veto the whole thing. He can’t cross out $2.5 million and write in $10.


48 posted on 03/26/2008 1:10:23 PM PDT by Redcloak (Yeah... Sure... McCain. Why not.)
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To: calcowgirl
Thank you. I appreciate the addendum.
49 posted on 03/26/2008 1:14:07 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Some think McCain should pick his No 2 now. I thought the nominee was No 2. And that No 1s me off!)
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To: ConservaTexan

Well, I’ll be helping. I’ve already started using it, thanks to you.


50 posted on 03/26/2008 1:14:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Some think McCain should pick his No 2 now. I thought the nominee was No 2. And that No 1s me off!)
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