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1 posted on 03/27/2008 4:39:55 PM PDT by chessplayer
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Incredible. The Reformation.....the gift that just keeps giving.


2 posted on 03/27/2008 4:42:07 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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76 years OLD, you say?

He should off himself to set an example for the rest of us. ;)


3 posted on 03/27/2008 4:42:09 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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“Spending” does NOT “keep youth out of trouble” - ask Paris Hilton’s parents.

PreacherMan arguably has been drinking too much of the sacra’mental’ wine.


4 posted on 03/27/2008 4:42:47 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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A senior Church of Scotland minister has questioned the wisdom of spending large amounts of money keeping older people alive.

Heck, why not just eat them too. Sheesh!
5 posted on 03/27/2008 4:44:50 PM PDT by ZX12R
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No, this is what I think. I am going to linger until there is no money left, then and only then my family can pull the plug.


9 posted on 03/27/2008 4:52:56 PM PDT by svcw (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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So, what’s he using up air space for?


12 posted on 03/27/2008 4:58:20 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (The fence is "absolutely not the answer" - Gov. Rick Perry (R, TX))
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The Minister has a point ... but one that is only present and worth discussion in a socialized medicine or subsidized medicine system. If individuals have their own funds to spend on health care, then the system becomes self regulating.

As people get older, health care costs go up as the natural decay of time and bad habits wear the body down. When people run out of money to support their health, they will soon suffer a condition that will cause mortality to take it’s final toll.


13 posted on 03/27/2008 4:59:16 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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What a creep.


14 posted on 03/27/2008 5:01:07 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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16 posted on 03/27/2008 5:03:08 PM PDT by TheSarce
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"The Reverend Maxwell Craig, 76, feels funding could be better spent helping the young stay out of trouble."

Why don't you suggest that the parents of these 'young' spend some time helping their kids stay out of trouble and let the old folks live too. Sheesh, has it really come down to one or the other?

17 posted on 03/27/2008 5:06:51 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde
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20 posted on 03/27/2008 5:26:52 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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I don't think anyone who espouses this sort of doctrine has thought it through. "We," meaning persons outside the immediate family, also care for infants. Why? They use up more than their share of resources and present zero immediate value to the payer. Yes, they'll become productive in time...in time to refuse to care for the ones who now are caring for them. So why?

Well, because we live for something bigger than ourselves that includes them, that's why. And that's why we care for the elderly as well. A life lived otherwise is grim, superficial, tawdry and futile. It disappoints me to see a clergyman ascribe to this arid moral calculus but it doesn't surprise me much.

23 posted on 03/27/2008 5:38:01 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Sadly, I'm afraid the UK NHS will soon agree with him. We DO NOT want a nationalized health care system.
24 posted on 03/27/2008 5:57:13 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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When my granfather found out that he had throat cancer he refused chemotherapy. He said “I’m 84, wtf do I need with chemo?”


25 posted on 03/27/2008 6:08:41 PM PDT by Grunthor (I promise in November to be just as loyal to the GOP as Juan McAmnesty has been)
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Euthanasia, here we come. Led by the church. Just great.


30 posted on 03/27/2008 8:30:23 PM PDT by Rocky
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Last month there was a letter to the editor in Discover magazine advocating “something like abortion for the elderly.” Of course, Discover is really a religious magazine these days...


32 posted on 03/27/2008 8:44:29 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
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It’s one thing to make sure the elderly are clothed, housed, nursed as needed, and fed. But it’s quite another to give million dollar life extending treatment on the taxpayer dime when the person is not going to live much longer anyway.

If it’s voluntary, that’s perfectly fine.

Maybe Europe should promote a baseline treatment that doesn’t include costly pharmaceuticals and hospital care to those whose poor decisions in their already long lives put them there in the first place.


34 posted on 03/27/2008 9:07:32 PM PDT by dan1123 (If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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In America when the baby boomers start to retire and vote every benefit in the book to themselves, their children and grandchildren will for sure become fans of euthanasia.


37 posted on 03/27/2008 11:13:35 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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39 posted on 03/28/2008 3:09:13 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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40 posted on 03/28/2008 4:58:38 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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