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UPDATED: FBI probing deadly prison riot[between Chicanos & Mexicans]
San Antonio Express-News ^ | 03/28/2008

Posted on 03/28/2008 3:20:13 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch

A riot at a federal penitentiary in Three Rivers this morning has left one prisoner dead and 22 others injured.

San Antonio hospitals were treating the injured while federal prison officials said in a news release that they had gotten control of the situation, which broke out about 7 a.m.

Friday afternoon, prison officials identified the slain inmate as Servando Rodriguez, 38. He was serving a 54-month sentence for violating his federal supervision related to a conviction on charges of possession with intent to distribute marijuana and being in this country illegally after being previously deported to Mexico.

No staff members were injured at the prison, which houses 1,160 male medium-security inmates, according to the U.S. Bureau of Prisons.

Fifteen inmates were taken to area medical facilities, including some in San Antonio. Seven others were treated at the prison for minor injuries. A Bureau of Prisons spokeswoman said Friday afternooon that three inmates have been returned to Three Rivers.

"Staff immediately and effectively responded and the incident was quickly contained," Three Rivers spokesman Dennis Molina said in a statement. "The cause of this incident is unknown at this time and an investigation has begun."

"The institution is secure, all inmates are accounted for and at no time was there a threat to the local community."

Some criminal intelligence sources said they believe the riot might have been between Mexican-American inmates who consider themselves Chicanos and inmates who have closer ties to Mexico. A similar type of faceoff occurred last week at a Houston jail that houses federal pre-trial inmates.

"At this time, we have received no indication that there's any connection between the fights at the Federal Detention Center (in Houston) and the fights that occurred this morning at the institution," said Traci Billingsley, a BOP spokeswoman in Washington, D.C.

Apparently, there's growing resentment and bad blood between the groups of inmates.

Prison officials could not confirm those reports, saying the matter remains under investigation.

"We certainly are not at this time going to speculate as to what happened," said Shauna Dunlap, spokeswoman for the FBI in Houston, whose Corpus Christi agents are investigating the incident. "That will be part of the investigation. We're not going to do a play-by-play on it in the media."

San Antonio emergency responders are assisting Live Oak County authorities and a University Hospital spokeswoman said five prisoners arrived there via helicopter shortly after the riot broke out.

"We may get more," hospital spokeswoman Leni Kirkman.

Prison spokeswoman Deborah Denham said 89.9 percent of prison positions are staffed and most prison jobs, 95 percent, are held by correctional officers.

"Our staff levels are good for correction service," Denham said.

Richard Wechsler, president of the local American Federation of Government Employees union, said the riot occurred during a time when the prison is least staffed. He said that during the midnight to 8 a.m. shift, there is only one guard for every 300 inmates.

"We do not have enough staff," Wechsler said, adding that the riot happened during breakfast, when the inmates are basically roaming about free.

He said the bureau is skewing the numbers.

"Four years ago they said that 125 officers was 95 percent, but today 110 officers is 95 percent," he said.

Fights among prisoners are fairly common, but homicides are rare, he said. Friday's death was the facilities third since 1990.

"If the town of Three Rivers knew how short we are and how dangerous it is they wouldn't put up with that."

The Three Rivers prison has seen its share of violence -- which had previously been undisclosed.

In June 2007, inmate Ernesto "Neto" Rodriguez, an alleged member of the Texas Mexican Mafia, the largest prison gang in Texas' state prison system, was stabbed there but survived.

In January, the FBI, San Antonio police and investigators with the Texas Department of Criminal Justice obtained a racketeering indictment against more than 30 members of the Texas Mexican Mafia. In that indictment, they charged Jacinto "Cache" Navajar, a purported gang general, with attempting to murder Rodriguez by stabbing and cutting him. The indictment cites the gang for committing 22 murders, mostly in San Antonio, since 2000.

Neither the BOP nor the FBI was prepared today to explain that previously undisclosed stabbing incident -- more than one year after it occurred.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; banglist; chicanos; immigrantlist; immigration; leo; mexico; police; threerivers
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"Apparently, there's growing resentment and bad blood between the groups of inmates."
1 posted on 03/28/2008 3:20:14 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch
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To: SwinneySwitch

How could this be?? I thought all Latinos/Hispanics were part of LA RAZA and reveled in their racial/ethnic unity and wholesome worldview... /sarc


2 posted on 03/28/2008 3:22:42 PM PDT by kiriath_jearim
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To: SwinneySwitch

nortenos vs surenos. Lots of stuff about it on the internet.


3 posted on 03/28/2008 3:23:11 PM PDT by balch3
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To: SwinneySwitch

Interesting. I once had a discussion with someone about assimilation of illegal immigrants. Sooner or later they will be more like us than they think.

Once people taste the good life in America they will want to hold onto it, even if it means fighting the newcomers.


4 posted on 03/28/2008 3:23:47 PM PDT by ruiner
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To: SwinneySwitch

The herd has a way of thinning itself out.


5 posted on 03/28/2008 3:26:49 PM PDT by joebuck (Finitum non capax infinitum!)
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To: SwinneySwitch
"We do not have enough staff,"

No kidding? Who in their right mind would want to work in the joint?

If they paid me 1.5 million, I might consider it for 1 year, outside of that, ferrrget it.

6 posted on 03/28/2008 3:28:01 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Ultimatum; Sterco; expatguy; Paige; Tennessee_Bob; cspackler; ECM; STOCKHRSE; ...

¡Prisión ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


7 posted on 03/28/2008 3:31:04 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: kiriath_jearim
OK, I'm officially confused.

Mexicans

Chicanos

Latinos

Hispanics

8 posted on 03/28/2008 3:38:29 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun

depends on your location, your age, your economic status, and your politics


9 posted on 03/28/2008 3:39:15 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: dragnet2

There’s not enough staff at any federal or state prison in Texas. Mr. M turns out with the largest percent on his unit but it’s still below minimum. Knock on wood three times, nothing bad has happened at his. And yes the pay stinks. They’ve been promised raise after raise but it never happens so we get further and further behind every year.


10 posted on 03/28/2008 3:41:47 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (The fence is "absolutely not the answer" - Gov. Rick Perry (R, TX))
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To: TexasCajun

Latinos == people from “Latin America” i.e. any one from south of the Texas border. Includes the Carribean.

Hispanic == people from places settled by Spanish settlers (Latinos minus Brazil). Includes the Carribean.

Mexicans == people from Mexico. And this girl I knew in college who was from Peru and got mad whenever we called her “Mexican.” She got really cute when she was mad.

Chicano == I have no idea.


11 posted on 03/28/2008 3:43:33 PM PDT by krb (If you're not outraged, people probably like having you around.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Why’d they stop it? I say let these thugs beat and kill each other. Society benefits.


12 posted on 03/28/2008 3:48:17 PM PDT by navyguy (Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.)
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To: mtbopfuyn
Not to metion being sick from being exposed to real nasty diseases and other vile stuff.

The people that work in these places ought to get compestated better than those in Congress that spend all their time chasing hookers, taking bribes, going on vacations and driving the country into a ditch.

13 posted on 03/28/2008 3:50:02 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: krb; TexasCajun

Chicano (feminine Chicana) is another word for Mexican American (in the sense of native-born Americans of Mexican ancestry, as opposed to Mexican natives living in the United States).


14 posted on 03/28/2008 3:50:09 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: TexasCajun

Tejano (Spanish for “Texan”; archaic spelling Texano) is a term used to identify individuals of Hispanic descent born and living in the U.S. state of Texas.


15 posted on 03/28/2008 3:52:05 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: dragnet2
Not to metion being sick from being exposed to real nasty diseases and other vile stuff.

Yeah, he's always having to get shots for some bad something or another. Inmates are so nasty.

16 posted on 03/28/2008 3:56:26 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (The fence is "absolutely not the answer" - Gov. Rick Perry (R, TX))
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To: krb
Chicano == I have no idea

More correctly pronounced "xicano" and supposedly a slang term based on a misunderstanding of Central Mexican Indians pronouncing their origin as "me-shee-cano", which is in fact not a Spanish word.

Or so I've heard.

17 posted on 03/28/2008 3:56:45 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: krb

Chicano == I have no idea.


Native born Americans of Mexican decent.


18 posted on 03/28/2008 4:00:39 PM PDT by deport ( -- Cue Spooky Music --)
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To: navyguy

Should have handed out 3’ sections of 2X4 lumber and kept them at it until no one was left standing...


19 posted on 03/28/2008 4:03:27 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: joebuck

That poor ‘undocumented worker’


20 posted on 03/28/2008 4:03:28 PM PDT by abovethefray
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