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Openly carrying gun not a crime
The Columbus Dispatch ^ | March 30, 2008 | Bill Bush

Posted on 03/30/2008 12:35:05 PM PDT by buccaneer81

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To: buccaneer81
Ohio state alcohol and drug undercover agent Timothy Gales was accused, after an internal investigation, of having undermined his own teenage confidential informant in a Columbus store that the pair were probing for selling cigarettes to minors. According to the official report (described in the Columbus Dispatch in July), Gales stood alongside the teenager, and when the clerk proceeded with the sale, Gale asked, “Hey, aren't you supposed to ask for ID?” It was allegedly Gales' second blown-sting incident this year.
161 posted on 03/31/2008 7:56:37 AM PDT by evets
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To: evets
Fuad A. Mahamud was abducted by two Ohio Liquor Control agents while he was working as a parking lot attendant at a downtown parking lot. Published reports state that the two agents in plain clothes and in a unmarked vehicle drove onto the private parking lot and refused to pay for being there when legally requested to do so by Mahamud. Further, according to the reports, Mahamud was handcuffed by the State agents and pushed into the back seat their car, drove off the lot, kept Mahamud for about a half-hour before releasing him behind a gas station a few blocks from the parking lot. The two agents, David Pollock and Timothy Gales have personally caught hell over the incident but they have not been criminally charged.
162 posted on 03/31/2008 8:01:26 AM PDT by evets
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To: RandallFlagg; Jim Robinson; Neil E. Wright

I found that out the hard way! I was carrying open in Montezuma County and got rousted by 6 officers in the grocery store.

Showed my CCW and they said I had to carry concealed as there was an ordinance saying I couldn’t carry open in the county.

They also tried to tell me that my visitors coming from California and Arizona couldn’t carry concealed on their CCWs. Funny...the website of state’s CCWs that are recognized by Colorado specifically say those 2 are recognized! Needless to say, we ALL carried, but I was watched/stalked by the police for several weeks after that!


163 posted on 03/31/2008 8:12:29 AM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: Mojave
I'm familiar with both him and the weaklings he regularly trounces.

Thread hijack or trolling?

164 posted on 03/31/2008 9:57:54 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Heller: The defining moment of our Republic)
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To: Copernicus

No confusion on that score. In fact I plan on doing the same while hunting and fishing in areas far away from civilization, but in urban areas I’m not looking to make a statement.


165 posted on 03/31/2008 10:16:34 AM PDT by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: ol' hoghead

For example, you’re patrolling downtown and you see a guy with a gun in his belt. He walks out of a store and get’s in a truck and starts to back out. What action would you take to “protect yourself?”


166 posted on 03/31/2008 10:19:37 AM PDT by purpleraine
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To: marktwain

You know, I was thinking about this while reading that statement. What changed over the course of the last 200 years that morphed this mindset? I mean, people use to walk around with weapons all the time.


167 posted on 03/31/2008 10:21:50 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: evets

I remember that incident. Ol’ Tim must be hiding behind his union’s skirts to still have his job.


168 posted on 03/31/2008 11:42:33 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Travis McGee; All

The OP’s comments in post #1 are the issue here (again, not the content of article, just the OP’s own personal commentary). He sarcastically suggests that it is par for the course for LEOs to be ignorant, incompetent, and/or stupid with regard to the law.

I don’t see how anyone can read that any other way. Are people just not seeing what he wrote in post #1? That’s all I can think. At this point it doesn’t even matter if people agree or disagree with the sentiment expressed; the strange thing is people acting like his comments aren’t there and don’t mean what they say.


169 posted on 03/31/2008 11:58:45 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: Travis McGee; All

The OP’s comments in post #1 are the issue here (again, not the content of article, just the OP’s own personal commentary). He sarcastically suggests that it is par for the course for LEOs to be ignorant, incompetent, and/or stupid with regard to the law.

I don’t see how anyone can read that any other way. Are people just not seeing what he wrote in post #1? That’s all I can think. At this point it doesn’t even matter if people agree or disagree with the sentiment expressed; the strange thing is people acting like his comments aren’t there and don’t mean what they say.


170 posted on 03/31/2008 11:58:46 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: KJC1

With more than 100 agents in the unit(prolly all of them, BTW) attending a mandatory refresher course on Ohio’s gun laws over the next couple of months.

He may have a valid point.

They do seem to not understand the law, as he stated.

Not the first time it has happened. Won’t be the last either.

It may not be par for the course, but it isn’t as rare as it should be either.

If you are getting payed to enforce the law, you darned better know it, or get used to paying for it.


171 posted on 03/31/2008 12:43:47 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afganistan and Iraq))
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To: KJC1
He sarcastically suggests that it is par for the course for LEOs to be ignorant, incompetent, and/or stupid with regard to the law.

Many people in this country are ignorant of the law. LEO's are captives of their training and their command philosophy.

Within that group is another group who enjoy brandishing their ignorance at the expense of the people who pay their salary and mean them no harm. I have posted several examples on this thread.

You can also use keyword "donutwatch" for some funny and not so funny examples posted to Free Republic.

Best regards,

172 posted on 03/31/2008 4:45:06 PM PDT by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: buccaneer81

Bump for later


173 posted on 03/31/2008 4:53:45 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here. ;-)
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To: buccaneer81

***If your open display of a firearm is causing panic, you could be charged with inducing panic, Weiner said. If you carry it onto private property, you could be charged with trespassing, he said.***

The name fits


174 posted on 03/31/2008 7:25:13 PM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: pallis

If you’re carrying concealed, the mag well has to be empty? Do you also have to have the slide locked back?

“Gimme your money!”

“Please excuse me while I load my Colt.”

What if you carry a revolver?


175 posted on 03/31/2008 7:45:44 PM PDT by wastedyears (The US Military is what goes Bump in the night.)
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To: buccaneer81

If anyone wants to know just how screwed up interpretation of carry laws can be, just ask a few of your local LE what the legal length of a pocket knife is and see how many answers you will get. You’ll be amazed.


176 posted on 03/31/2008 8:07:39 PM PDT by SiVisPacemParaBellum (Peace through superior firepower!)
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To: wastedyears

I’m not recommending it as a preferred way to carry a firearm, my friend. I was merely stating the ways a firearm can be carried legally in New Mexico. I do know a man who successfully defended himself while carrying a firearm exactly as you mentioned, slide back, pistol in right pocket and clip in left. If you are practiced at it, you can produce a loaded weapon just about as fast as most people can competently handle a firearm, much faster than a woman who carries in her purse. Still, I don’t recommend it.


177 posted on 03/31/2008 9:42:46 PM PDT by pallis
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To: smoketree
You must be one of those liberals that feel it is wrong to judge others

Hardly. I've judged your willful ignorance and obsessive desire for centralized control and found you wanting.

178 posted on 04/04/2008 10:34:33 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: beltfed308
Thread hijack or trolling?

Since you ask, you seem more like you're trolling.

179 posted on 04/04/2008 10:35:56 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

Wow! You must have been to school.
You’re what I call a keyboard coward.
Big words from the safety of your room.


180 posted on 04/04/2008 10:43:34 PM PDT by smoketree (the insanity, the lunacy these days)
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