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Warnings of lead in venison irk hunters
Bradenton.com ^ | Mar. 29, 2008 | JAMES MacPHERSON

Posted on 03/31/2008 12:42:01 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: DBrow

I think you are partly right. Most hunting ammo is jacketed and not solid lead and does not come apart like that. I’m thinking the particals are more likely bone...


21 posted on 03/31/2008 1:04:54 PM PDT by El Laton Caliente (NRA Member & www.Gunsnet.net Moderator)
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To: neverdem

Let them eat cake!


22 posted on 03/31/2008 1:07:16 PM PDT by westmichman ( God said: "They cry 'peace! peace!' but there is no peace. Jeremiah 6:14)
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To: El Laton Caliente

I didn’t think of that! If you twiddle the CT knobs, bone could be made to saturate like that and appear to be very dense, you are right!

Somebody needs to challenge this guy on fact and technique.


23 posted on 03/31/2008 1:09:47 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: neverdem

“Hunters have alternatives to lead, he said. “I’m a big hunter. I’ve already purchased four boxes of copper bullets to next year,” Cornatzer said. “

No, you haven’t. You may have purchased copper jacketed or copper encapsulated bullets, though. Neither of which will guarantee that you won’t have lead in the wound area of the deer.


24 posted on 03/31/2008 1:12:46 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: garyhope

Send it to me.

oh no - the line forms here LOL.....chicken fried with gravy


25 posted on 03/31/2008 1:18:33 PM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: jazusamo
Apparently, Annie Oakley got her start as the neighborhood provider for fresh birds because she could kill a turkey, etc. with one shot thru its eye.

No bird shot in the meat.

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26 posted on 03/31/2008 1:18:38 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: ltc8k6

They are making solid copper bullets now but mostly for pistols in indoor ranges. They do have copper rifle ammo, mostly for the same application. The solid lead pistol bullets were leaving vaporized lead in the air of the indoor ranges.

I don’t think it would be very good for hunting though... too light for a good balistic cooeffecent in long range shooting...


27 posted on 03/31/2008 1:25:14 PM PDT by El Laton Caliente (NRA Member & www.Gunsnet.net Moderator)
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To: ltc8k6
It is possible. My hunting bullets are 100% copper. . Barnes. They work GREAT.
28 posted on 03/31/2008 1:27:23 PM PDT by Rio (Don't make me come over there....)
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To: neverdem

The amount of lead showing up in those venison packages would lead me to believe the poor deer was shot with a gatling gun and no one bothered to remove the slugs. I find it far fetched to believe that a deer felled with a single clean shot is riddled with lead fragments particularly if the wound area was excised.


29 posted on 03/31/2008 2:01:49 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: neverdem

Well....why don’t they start ‘clubbing’ the deer to death like they do to seals?


30 posted on 03/31/2008 2:12:13 PM PDT by Fawn (http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?r=1&ean=9781604743708)
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To: Fawn

Oooppps.....silly me....forgot deer can run.


31 posted on 03/31/2008 2:12:53 PM PDT by Fawn (http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?r=1&ean=9781604743708)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

pinger


32 posted on 03/31/2008 2:16:04 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Fawn

No lead in my venison, just 3 or 4 surgically sharp blades which are removed to be used again. (I recycle my game harvest equipment.)


33 posted on 03/31/2008 2:19:49 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....Viva El Presidente! "I'm not prejudice, I hate everybody the same.")
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To: neverdem

Off the charts with this claim.

34 posted on 03/31/2008 2:33:34 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: ARE SOLE

Liberals sure like using junk science to promote their radical agendas. The meat around the bullet entrance/exit wound is discarded.


35 posted on 03/31/2008 2:37:02 PM PDT by Mogollon (Vote straight GOP for congress....our only protection against Obama-Clinton, or McCain.)
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To: CurlyDave

I switched from guns to bows a years back ( it just wasn’t a challenge ) and thus am lead free. Hooray!


36 posted on 03/31/2008 2:38:36 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: neverdem
Jsut don't eat all at once... ;-)

Bite the bullet: lead poisoning after ingestion of 206 lead bullets.

McNutt TK, Chambers-Emerson J, Dethlefsen M, Shah R.
Florida Poison Information Center, Tampa General Hospital, 33601, USA.

Vet Hum Toxicol. 2001 Oct;43(5):288-9.

A 45-y-o male with a history of schizophrenia was admitted to a local VA psychiatric unit. Five days later, endoscopy due to abdominal pain, gastrointestinal bleeding and blood hemoglobin of 5.6 g/dL revealed bullets in the stomach. On subsequent radiograph, > 50 bullets were visualized in the stomach and intestines. Poison Center recommendations included whole bowel irrigation and a blood lead level. After poor results with gastrointestinal decontamination and a repeat radiograph showing > 100 cartridges, surgical intervention was considered but not performed due to perceived risk of bullet detonation from electrocautery. The blood lead was reported as 391 mcg/dL. Calcium EDTA therapy was initiated, followed by aggressive gastrointestinal decontamination. Four days of whole bowel irrigation facilitated passage of 206 cartridges over the next 10 days. The patient was discharged on a 14-day course of 600 mg Succimer tid to treat the bone lead deposits and blood lead level of 49 mcg/dl. An outpatient visit 6 w later showed the blood lead level had dropped to 24 mcg/dl. Aggressive gastrointestinal decontamination and calcium EDTA and Succimer administration successfully treated an ingestion lead bullets and the resulting lead poisoning.

37 posted on 03/31/2008 2:42:22 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: neverdem
Garbage. Those idiots have never seen a vitals pass-through shot and that the surrounding edible meat is untouched. Freakin’ anti-gun, bunny-huggers! Phooey!
38 posted on 03/31/2008 2:42:23 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (El Conservo Tribal Name: Fishes with Dynamite. ---- Illegetimi non carborundum.)
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To: fightinbluhen51

I think the problem would be with children consuming it.


39 posted on 03/31/2008 2:43:06 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: neverdem

This guy is apparently unfamiliar with the concept of bioavailability of metals.


40 posted on 03/31/2008 2:49:41 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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