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Where U.S.-Mexico border fence is tall, border crossings fall
CS Monitor ^ | April 1, 2008 | Daniel B. Wood

Posted on 04/01/2008 3:32:57 PM PDT by Red Steel

In Yuma, Ariz., border patrol agents tout the success of a hightriple-and double-layered wall. But such a fence is unlikely to stretch the entire border.

Yuma, Ariz. - US border patrol agent Michael Bernacke guns his SUV down the wide desert-sand road that lines the US-Mexican border through urban San Luis, Ariz.

To his right stands a steel wall, 20 feet high and reinforced by cement-filled steel piping. To his left another tall fence of steel mesh. Ten yards beyond, a shorter cyclone fence is topped with jagged concertina wire. Visible to the north, through the gauze of fencing are the homes and businesses of this growing Southwest suburbia of 22,000 people.

"This wall works," says Mr. Bernacke. "A lot of people have the misconception that it is a waste of time and money, but the numbers of apprehensions show that it works."

The triple-and double-layered fence here in Yuma is the kind of barrier that US lawmakers – and most Americans – imagined when the Secure Fence Act was enacted in 2006.

The law instructed the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to secure about one-third of the 1,950-mile border between US and Mexico with 700 miles of double-layered fencing – and additionally through cameras, motion sensors, and other types of barriers – by the end of the year to stem illegal immigration.

Bankrolled by a separate $1.2 billion homeland security bill, the Secure Fence Act would, President Bush said in 2006, "make our borders more secure." By most recent estimates, nearly half a million unauthorized immigrants cross the border each year.

On the ground, though, things have turned out differently.

The DHS scaled back its ambitions early on, trimming its end-of-2008 target down to 300 miles of vehicle barrier and 370 miles of pedestrian barrier.

As of February, 302

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; fence; goodfencesgoodnabors; immigration; searchworks
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1 posted on 04/01/2008 3:32:58 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
I have no confidence that this wall will have been worth the effort by the time it's completed. First of all, it probably never will be completed. Second, it's not going to be the quality type of wall that was first suggested. It will be a pie in the sky smoke and mirrors wall that will waste away within a few years.

Meanwhile, the powers that be will declare a labor shortage emergency and legalize between three and five million new ‘workers’ each year on work visas.

Your government at work, listening to the will of the people.

We don't really have representative government anymore, and it's becoming more apparent each and every day.

2 posted on 04/01/2008 3:40:46 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (New Europe, John Benedict Arnold McCain's bridge to 07/03/1776. Not even our past is safe.)
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To: Red Steel

Nah, can’t be. The liberals tell us it doesn’t matter, and they’re never wrong. /s


3 posted on 04/01/2008 3:40:53 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: Red Steel
where there is a wall, it makes it more difficult to cross the border...


4 posted on 04/01/2008 3:44:24 PM PDT by robomatik ((wine plug: renascentvineyards.com cabernet sauvignon, riesling, and merlot))
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To: Red Steel

“In Yuma, Ariz., border patrol agents tout the success of a hightriple-and double-layered wall. But such a fence is unlikely to stretch the entire border.”

And that is exactly why so many of our fine politicians and others are against a serious fence - they work!

And everybody knows it.


5 posted on 04/01/2008 3:50:42 PM PDT by Will88
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To: DoughtyOne

“We don’t really have representative government anymore, and it’s becoming more apparent each and every day. “

When you realize that we have ‘nominated’ a man to be president representing a party before most of the people of this country even voted, but allow illegal aliens to vote, it’s pretty much over. We let the ballot box go and didn’t even blink. I suppose we’ll let the ammo boxes go with just as much apathy.


6 posted on 04/01/2008 4:04:26 PM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: Red Steel

Good fences make good neighbors.


7 posted on 04/01/2008 4:06:09 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: Will88
Think the prisoners inside would stay there without the walls?


8 posted on 04/01/2008 4:07:31 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: USS Alaska

“Think the prisoners inside would stay there without the walls?”

Lol, and I don’t think the White House has yet taken down their fence as some have suggested, after hearing how fences don’t work anyway.


9 posted on 04/01/2008 4:11:01 PM PDT by Will88
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To: AuntB

It doesn’t look good does it.


10 posted on 04/01/2008 4:13:03 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (New Europe, John Benedict Arnold McCain's bridge to 07/03/1776. Not even our past is safe.)
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To: Red Steel
Image hosted by Photobucket.com do I really have to say it???

11 posted on 04/01/2008 4:15:09 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: DoughtyOne
It doesn’t look good does it.

Not for our children it doesn't. The pain is coming.

12 posted on 04/01/2008 4:23:00 PM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: numberonepal

I don’t like what I see coming down the line in ten to twenty years, perhaps less. We have basicly gutted this nation over the last 15 years. Where we go from here is a very bleak consideration. With the three candidates we have left, it looks like grim.


13 posted on 04/01/2008 4:25:59 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (New Europe, John Benedict Arnold McCain's bridge to 07/03/1776. Not even our past is safe.)
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To: DoughtyOne
We don't really have representative government anymore, and it's becoming more apparent each and every day.

I've been catching up on my War Between the States history. I wonder what General Lee or Jefferson Davis would think about the climate in America these days.

14 posted on 04/01/2008 4:28:20 PM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: DoughtyOne
With the three candidates we have left, it looks like grim.

Two commies and a geezer. Sounds like a TV show.

15 posted on 04/01/2008 4:31:08 PM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: numberonepal

I know a lot of folks like to pin the war on slavery. To me it is important to think of it in terms of what the federal government was able to force on the states. I don’t have a problem with slavery being recognized as a part of it.

Today we’re facing problems where our federal AND state governments are out of control.

When you think of what little our forefathers balked at compared to what we face today, it’s shocking what we have allowed ourselves to be subjected to.


16 posted on 04/01/2008 4:35:27 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (New Europe, John Benedict Arnold McCain's bridge to 07/03/1776. Not even our past is safe.)
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To: numberonepal

I’m not at all convinced we aren’t talking about two commies and a commie foot-soldier. McCain for all his denials, backs a lot of stuff that would put us deeper into the socialist death grip we sinking into.

Globalism, be it international governance, open borders, the green agenda, is all the same thing, headed towards the super-state nervana. Individuals will become a part of the collective.

Borg 101


17 posted on 04/01/2008 4:38:30 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (New Europe, John Benedict Arnold McCain's bridge to 07/03/1776. Not even our past is safe.)
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To: DoughtyOne

“When you think of what little our forefathers balked at compared to what we face today, it’s shocking what we have allowed ourselves to be subjected to.”

I’ve thought about that often recently. And not every colony wanted to rebel against the British. They rebelled primarily over taxes, and really just a determination to be an independent nation.

Today, this country is being transformed dramatically, in ways that about three-fourths of citizens don’t want. But the flare up during the last amnesty debate is the only time we’ve seen much protest, and that was just verbal and written.


18 posted on 04/01/2008 4:41:50 PM PDT by Will88
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To: DoughtyOne

“I’m not at all convinced we aren’t talking about two commies and a commie foot-soldier. McCain for all his denials, backs a lot of stuff that would put us deeper into the socialist death grip we sinking into.”

I’ve speculated, and just about believe, that McCain is in the Republican party for one reason, and only one reason. The Dems. have “loathed” the military since the sixties, and only pretend to respect it now because they know to do otherwise would cost them politically.

Because McCain is from (and part of) such a rich military tradition, he couldn’t stomach being a Dem. for that reason, even though he is a Democrat otherwise. But for that one reason, he just sleeps on the couch at the Republican party, but never really invests himself in it.


19 posted on 04/01/2008 4:49:01 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88

I agree.


20 posted on 04/01/2008 6:47:28 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (New Europe, John Benedict Arnold McCain's bridge to 07/03/1776. Not even our past is safe.)
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