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Live to 150, Can You Do It?
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Longevity/story?id=4544003&page=1 ^

Posted on 04/01/2008 8:59:15 PM PDT by traumer

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To: traumer

“Live to 150, Can You Do It?”

If the Obamunist or Hitlery install their Commie Medicine plan, we’ll be lucky to make it to 50, let alone 150.


61 posted on 04/02/2008 4:44:28 AM PDT by exile ("Get off my phone, ya big dope"- The Great One)
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To: goodnesswins
My daughter in law is going to be REALLY PISSED about this!

Why? She will still get her inheritance - as a spry young woman of 120. ;)

62 posted on 04/02/2008 4:56:09 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Proverbs 3-5
I believe it was C.S. Lewis who said something to the effect that you don't have a soul, you are a soul. You are not a body, you have a body.

Exactly - the body is just a shell. Keeping it alive artificially past its normal span would just be stupid. If dietary changes can slow the aging process, however, that might be good - aside from bankrupting Social Security and Medicare even faster. ;)

And as the Eastern religions make clear to us (and the early Christians also believed, before the Church decided the fear of death was more profitable), your soul can always choose to incarnate again - you could live two vibrant 75-year lives within that same period instead of spending the last 75 years of a 150-year life as a worn out relic.

As far as the Ray Kurzweil idea of transferring one's consciousness into a machine, I don't believe that will ever work. We might learn how to copy memories from a brain like downloading data to a disk drive, but the soul is multidimensional and can't be bound to a piece of machinery. At best you would end up with a robot full of memories - but the soul that made you an individual will be somewhere else, waiting for a chance to incarnate as a human again.

63 posted on 04/02/2008 5:08:51 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: traumer
The Biggest predictor of long life is genetics. If your Grandmother and Grandfather lived to be 100, then you stand a very good chance to do the same.

The same is true of heart disease and lung cancer. The first predictor is genetics and the second is smoking.

All these bogus articles and shows that ignore the obvious.

64 posted on 04/02/2008 5:21:37 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: traumer

This reminds me of a true story. Sometime last month when I was doing laundry I caught the end of a conversation between two older women talking about why men die earlier than women. I kind of smirked and she said “you heard what I said”. I smiled back and said “we die earlier, because we want to do so”


65 posted on 04/02/2008 5:55:06 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (El Conservo Tribe, tribal name "Avoids Fort Marcy Park" Watching the Rat Fight. typical white person)
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To: shineon

My best friend’s grandmother is 107 and still lives on her own. The old woman is a staunch Republican and votes regularly. My friend took her grandmother out to dinner and was surprised when the waiter recognized her grandmother. Turns out the old woman takes a cab over to the restaurant fairly regularly and dines there alone.


66 posted on 04/02/2008 5:56:41 AM PDT by Pinetop
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To: Pinetop

What’s her favorite on the menu? : )


67 posted on 04/02/2008 6:04:37 AM PDT by shineon
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To: MaxMax

Here’s the deal, If I cannot Walk, Talk, wipe my own butt...

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Why would you WANT to wipe your own butt, when you can have someone else do it for you? (saw that on an episode of ‘House’)


69 posted on 04/02/2008 6:58:46 AM PDT by the lastbestlady (I now believe that we have two lives; the life we learn with and the life we live with after that.)
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To: the lastbestlady

I understand that the HILLARYCARE will take care of wiping your but...


70 posted on 04/02/2008 7:17:15 AM PDT by traumer
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To: TASMANIANRED

I’m absolutely POSITIVE I want to be around for 200 years.

No doubts about it. I’m shooting for 200.


71 posted on 04/02/2008 7:28:10 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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To: Prole

There are tantalizing clues to all of these diseases, indicating that there is a definite mechanism that just needs to be figured out and countered.

Of those diseases you mentioned, they and a host of others are closely associated with the inflammation response of the immune system.

The immune system is a very carefully tuned machine, adapted for a more primitive and septic lifestyle, punctuated with lots of parasites. But modern people have eliminated many of the common diseases and parasites from their bodies.

In turn, this confuses our immune systems into fighting enemies that aren’t there. Asthma, Crohn’s disease, arthritis, Alzheimer’s, irritable bowel syndrome, many neurological disorders, etc., etc., are being linked to this same problem. In many cases there is a complex genetic link as well.

Some of these diseases are actually being treated with parasites. Life threatening asthma being temporarily cured with hookworms, and gastrointestinal problems like Crohn’s and irritable bowel syndrome, with pig whipworms (that can only live in the human body for a couple of weeks.)

But this is just a quick fix. The staggering complexity of the immune system is downright amazing. For example, I was studying the inflammation response as it relates to stem cells in the body:

Inflammation can cause the growth of stem cells.
Inflammation can moderate the production of stem cells to just what is needed.
Inflammation can direct the specialization of stem cells into other cells.
Inflammation can trim stem cells so they only occupy only the space that would be occupied by normal cells that are missing. Molded to shape, as it were.
Inflammation can halt further production of stem cells.
Inflammation can destroy stem cells.
Inflammation can prevent the production of new stem cells.

I once saw a bed sheet sized graph, in small print, in a medical library, showing the complete immune system response to a pathogen entering the body. Hundreds of immune actions later, the body returns to normal. This was in the early 1980s. Since that time, that chart has probably tripled in size.

The brain has over 200 known neurotransmitters, and the liver at least 50 enzymes conducting any number of complex processes.

Yes, it is an amazing machine. But a little at a time, we are getting a handle on it, at least enough to mitigate or eliminate many of our major problems.

Right now, there are several promising treatments for Alzheimers, approaching it from several different angles, and with some impressive successes. So don’t be surprised if within a decade or so, if not cured, then it is relegated to being a far less devastating disease.


72 posted on 04/02/2008 8:01:52 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: traumer

If you were living forever, how would you know?


73 posted on 04/02/2008 8:03:29 AM PDT by RightWhale (Clam down! avoid ataque de nervosa)
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To: sr4402

genetics is about 25-30% of the predictor....from what I understand.


74 posted on 04/02/2008 10:22:33 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Being Challenged Builds Character; Being Coddled Destroys Character)
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To: traumer
Secrets to Living Longer with Barbara Walters

Does it HAVE to be with Baba Wawa? I'd rather not!

75 posted on 04/02/2008 10:37:12 AM PDT by MortMan (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything. - Alexander Hamilton)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Obviously I have to read more on this subject.

Thank you for your insightful response.

Feel free to Ping me if you post articles related to these subjects.


76 posted on 04/02/2008 3:05:33 PM PDT by Prole ("Show me what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman.")
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To: shineon

salmon or halibut—it’s a seafood restaurant. She doesn’t drive anymore, but apparently she gets around quite well in cabs. For her 105th birthday she went to Paris where she was born with her granddaughter. Of course, she had outlived everyone from her childhood, but it’s still pretty cool.


77 posted on 04/02/2008 3:59:22 PM PDT by Pinetop
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To: traumer

Almost 1/3 of the way there already! Who knows, it might happen.


78 posted on 04/18/2008 1:01:58 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: traumer

We’ve got what, 57 years to find out if Jack LaLanne makes it?


79 posted on 04/18/2008 1:04:13 PM PDT by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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