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P.S. The headline is theirs, not mine. :-)
1 posted on 04/02/2008 7:14:07 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: metmom; Clintonfatigued; DaveLoneRanger

Ping... This affects New York homeschoolers.


2 posted on 04/02/2008 7:15:30 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Tired of Taxes

Actually, it seems reasonable.


3 posted on 04/02/2008 7:15:55 AM PDT by RobRoy
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Homeschooling ping, please.


4 posted on 04/02/2008 7:18:06 AM PDT by sthguard
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"The choice is, they enroll their student in public school or private school. If not, they're kind of on their own for the level of services their child needs," Haggerty said. "This is something the state decided, and whether we want to or not, we have to comply with the regulations."

This is not part of the homeschool regs for NYS.

They've been doing this for years. They've set precedent.

This amounts to blackmail.

5 posted on 04/02/2008 7:18:20 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Tired of Taxes

This, from a state that has a blind governor! He should be ashamed of himself to allow this to happen.


8 posted on 04/02/2008 7:21:50 AM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. If you want on/off this list, please freepmail me. The main Homeschool Ping List by DaveLoneRanger handles the homeschool-specific articles. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list.

While technically not another reason to homeschool, this is just yet another attempt to attack homschooling. Since they can't do it through legislative means, they'll try any underhanded tactic. These parents pay property and school taxes already. It's not like they're getting something for nothing.

If the school districts want to watch their budgets, they'd make more progress with internal and administrative cuts.

9 posted on 04/02/2008 7:22:35 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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If they pay property taxes, then they should be able to receive the services. If not, then they should be able to opt out of the property taxes. Yeah, that’ll happen!


10 posted on 04/02/2008 7:23:51 AM PDT by Aggie Mama
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Sounds like an equal protection lawsuit to me.


17 posted on 04/02/2008 7:28:01 AM PDT by joebuck (Finitum non capax infinitum!)
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To: Tired of Taxes

While I don’t agree with the ruling, why would homschoolers WANT this kind of help from the public school system? I thought they took take their children out to AVOID the system.


26 posted on 04/02/2008 7:41:33 AM PDT by gracesdad
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This is the way it is in California.

I had to put my special needs daughter into private school because the public school was failing her, and now we have to pay for all services.

And we don’t get any tax breaks for anything it.


27 posted on 04/02/2008 7:41:48 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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Then obviously, districts should be told to get their own money if they don’t have the homeschooler enrolled.


30 posted on 04/02/2008 7:44:37 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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special-education services

What kind of services?

Why would a homeschooler trust in these services?

34 posted on 04/02/2008 7:46:49 AM PDT by donna (The United States Constitution and the Koran are mutually exclusive.)
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I would then withhold all school taxes until such services were restored.

If this regulation will pay for kids in private school, then there is no reason it should not apply to kids in other educational situations. The parents pay the same taxes.


49 posted on 04/02/2008 7:59:52 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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I all for home schooling if you can do it. I don’t see though why homeschoolkers should be provided programs (special classes, extracurricular activity, etc.) by the public schools? Seems like they want it both ways.


57 posted on 04/02/2008 8:12:02 AM PDT by purpleraine
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From the NYS regulations manual regarding special needs....

” If a need is found, an Individualized Education Plan (IEP) will them be drawn up by the Committee (not yourself). This IEP will show goals for his education and a plan as to how they are to be reached. It may include physical therapy, occupational therapy, speech and language therapy, special education, etc. These are called related services. Every public school district is obligated to offer related services to any student in accordance with the approves IEP for the student. You may choose which of these services the district will provide. You may also refuse all of them. Your district will pay for transportation to and from the facility where the services are given, if you request it.”


63 posted on 04/02/2008 8:26:42 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Tired of Taxes

It is time that those who take responsibility for educating their own children, rather home schooled or private schooled get a dollar for dollar rebate on their taxes.


71 posted on 04/02/2008 8:36:46 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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OK, the school district receives funds for services for every special ed student who is enrolled in their school. If the student is not enrolled, they don’t get the funds. Now, this could go two ways, the state could provide the funds that would be passed on to homeschoolers, allowing the state and/or local school district a say in the home schooling, or the school district could refuse to fund special services and give up all control of the home school education.

Accepting public funds has a price. When my daughter was in kindergarten in New Jersey, we lived in a very rural school district which refused all state and federal money, so that they wouldn’t have to give up autonomy. My daughter had fifteen children in her kindergarten class and those that were already reading were pulled out and sent to the reading specialist for reading, instead of wasting time on learning the alphabet. -—and yes, they had both morning and afternoon classes with fifteen kids each.


77 posted on 04/02/2008 8:47:48 AM PDT by Eva (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.Do)
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This is a new change to districts up here in Maine. If one area of education needs to be vouchered it is certainly special ed.


79 posted on 04/02/2008 8:51:20 AM PDT by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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It is pretty obvious that homeschooling families cannot hope to benefit from anything related to public schooling. Even the smallest dependency can, and probably will, be used against them.


86 posted on 04/02/2008 9:09:10 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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"It's a problem we had seen cropping up across the country," said T.J. Schmidt, a staff attorney with the Home School Legal Defense Association, a nonprofit organization providing legal services to home-school parents. "The federal government basically leaves it up to the states to determine who is a nonpublic student."

Given that the federal Constitution says nothing about public education, the federal government has no business calling any shots in public education anyway. The feds must stop funneling taxpayer's money to public education and appropriately reduce federal taxes. Note that such spending is just one of many examples of constitutionally unauthorized federal spending.

Also, given that taxpayers should ultimately decide how their tax dollars are spent, New York's policy that private-schooled children are not eligible for special-education services is unfair.

97 posted on 04/02/2008 10:07:02 AM PDT by Amendment10
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