Some analysts of Islam in Western Europe argue that the continent cannot escape its Eurabian fate; that the trend lines of the past half-century will continue until Muslims become a majority population and Islamic law (the Shari‘a) reigns.Posted on 04/02/2008 10:22:48 AM PDT by NYer
Some analysts of Islam in Western Europe argue that the continent cannot escape its Eurabian fate; that the trend lines of the past half-century will continue until Muslims become a majority population and Islamic law (the Shari‘a) reigns.
I disagree, arguing that there is another route the continent might take, one of resistance to Islamification and a reassertion of traditional ways. Indigenous Europeans - who make up 95 percent of the population - can insist on their historic customs and mores. Were they to do so, nothing would be in their way and no one could stop them.
Indeed, Europeans are visibly showing signs of impatience with creeping Shari‘a. The legislation in France that prohibits hijabs from public school classrooms signals the reluctance to accept Islamic ways, as are related efforts to ban burqas, mosques, and minarets. Throughout Western Europe, anti-immigrant parties are generally increasing in popularity.
That resistance took a new turn last week, with two dramatic events. First, on March 22, Pope Benedict XVI himself baptized, confirmed, and gave the Eucharist to Magdi Allam, 56, a prominent Egyptian-born Muslim long living in Italy, where he is a top editor at the Corriere della Sera newspaper and a well-known author. Allam took the middle name Cristiano. The ceremony converting him to the Catholic religion could not have been higher profile, occurring at a nighttime service at St. Peter's Basilica on the eve of Easter Sunday, with exhaustive coverage from the Vatican and many other television stations.
Allam followed up his conversion with a stinging statement in which he argued that beyond "the phenomenon of Islamic extremism and terrorism that has appeared on a global level, the root of evil is inherent in an Islam that is physiologically violent and historically conflictive." In other words, the problem is not just Islamism but Islam itself. One commentator, "Spengler" of Asia Times, goes so far as to say that Allam "presents an existential threat to Muslim life" because he "agrees with his former co-religionists in repudiating the degraded culture of the modern West, and offers them something quite different: a religion founded upon love."
Second, on March 27, Geert Wilders, 44, released his long-awaited, 15-minute film, Fitna, which consists of some of the most bellicose verses of the Koran, followed by actions in accord with those verses carried out by Islamists in recent years. The obvious implication is that Islamists are simply acting in accord with their scriptures. In Allam's words, Wilders also argues that "the root of evil is inherent" in Islam.
Unlike Allam and Wilders, I do distinguish between Islam and Islamism, but I believe it imperative that their ideas get a fair hearing, without vituperation or punishment. An honest debate over Islam must take place.
If Allam's conversion was a surprise and Wilders' film had a three-month run-up, in both cases, the aggressive, violent reactions that met prior criticisms of Islam did not take place. According to the Los Angeles Times, the Dutch police contacted imams to gauge reactions at the city's mosques and found, according to police spokesman Arnold Aben, "it's quieter than usual here today. Sort of like a holiday." In Pakistan, a rally against the film attracted only some dozens of protestors.
This relatively constrained reaction points to the fact that Muslim threats sufficed to enforce censorship. Dutch Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende denounced Fitna and, after 3.6 million visitors had viewed it on the British website LiveLeak.com, the company announced that "Following threats to our staff of a very serious nature, ... Liveleak has been left with no other choice but to remove Fitna from our servers." (Two days later, however, LiveLeak again posted the film.)
Three similarities bear noting: both Allam (author of a book titled Viva Israele) and Wilders (whose film emphasizes Muslim violence against Jews) stand up for Israel and the Jews; Muslim threats against their lives have forced both for years to live under state-provided round-the-clock police protection; and, more profoundly, the two share a passion for European civilization.
Indeed, Allam and Wilders may represent the vanguard of a Christian/liberal reassertion of European values. It is too soon to predict, but these staunch individuals could provide a crucial boost for those intent on maintaining the continent's historic identity.
(This article courtesy of the Middle East Forum.)
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I’d be inclined to believe this if indigenious europeans were actually having kids. Eventually the muslims will win the demographic war and it will be all over.
Too late.
Small parts here and there do but then they get attacked by the Left which creates one step forward and two steps back. At least for now.
I come from a country which has masses of muslims coming in and being born
England is being taken over and the media are not telling the truth about it.
Radical muslims propped up by saudi arabia is helping to take over England
It is not too late but soon it will be if we don’t take a stand against the islamifacation of England
Those elected haven’t got any balls to say anything for fear of being branded a racist(since when is religion racist, it isn’t, shows how thick the left are)
We have to say no to arranged marriage,
no to immigration bein soft
no to illegal immigrants
no to any kind of appeasement and let them know that when we go to their country we will repsect the laws and way of life but you come here then you have to respect ours
see the left when they come to Europe say we have to respect their clothing,their way of life
their religion
their language
their culture
yet the left says when we go voer there that we have to respect theirs
well repsect is a two way street
let us build churches there
let us have freedom of religion
let us show we are another religion
if you don’t then we don’t respect yours and you abide by our laws not a book wrote hundreds of years ago when people lived iin caves
Would someone ping Charles Martel for me?
Mark my words, there will be blood in the streets of Europe over this before it is settled. Lots of it.
EUROPE: “Islam, we’d rather you wouldn’t; but since you’re going to anyway, here — have some condoms, so you don’t sully yourselves while you screw us over.”
Well, they better get off the dime and get busy asap. Personally, I am doubtful that the Euro’s have the stomach for what would be necessary to stop the tide of Islamism within their respective countries. Btw, there's a lesson for the U.S. in all this. However, I am also doubtful that we Americans have the stomach either...
Simply put, the religion needs to undergo a reformation (just like the one that happened to Christianity). It will be bloody and long, but necessary to the long-term peace and stability of the world. These sixth century throw-backs need to move their ideologies into the modern world (not the other way around).
This generation of Europe will not be able to stop the Islamic advance into Europe (2010-2018/19)
The next generation - the one that grows up amidst the war and 20-25 years or so of Islamic occupation - will be the ones who initiate the Reconquista II.
Islam means “submit”. To those who are not yet part of the Borg-like ummah it has three demands it is obligated to enforce with the threat of violence: convert, submit or die.
The “smart” Mohammedans know the way to conquer the West is through simple demographics, and that violent Jihad will only unify the Infidels against them.
Or Jan Sobieski.
Sadly, most of the European nations have succumbed to generational obsolescence through birth control and abortion. You can attribute that, in part, to wanting to send their limited offspring to the best universities, etc. That, in turn, has produced a new generation of Europeans who are highly educated and so well employed that there they needed to bring in outsiders (Muslims) to do the more menial tasks of elite society, such as sweeping streets, driving cabs and garbage trucks. To compound matters, these 'illuminati' are not reproducing enough to replenish their own line, much less add to it. Meanwhile, as one of you has already pointed out, the Muslims are reproducing like rabbits.
Sadly, this immigrant blend includes persecuted christians fleeing from their homelands in the Middle East. My Lebanese pastor has 6 brothers; 3 of them now reside in Sweden. I had an opportunity to meet one of them a few months ago. As a Catholic, he holds his new homeland in great regard and is raising his 3 children to be respectful of their new heritage. He also described how the Muslims produce many children, some of which they abandon on the streets, because they can't afford to raise them. At that point, the Civil Authorities intervene and, in keeping with their European upbringing, offer assistance to the Muslim families.
And that is only in Sweden! It's much the same in France, Italy, Germany and the UK. Even Ireland has had to cope with these issues. Now, ask yourselves, do you imagine that living in the US you will not have to deal with these situations?! It is happening here, just as it has in Europe. The numbers are still small but they are growing. Anyone who thinks this is strictly a European problem, is delusional.
The following is a description (slightly modified) from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat. www.frontline.org.za/books_videos/sti.htm
As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness.
At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs [Europe, Australia, USA and Japan]. Six percent of US prison inmates are Muslim. Like any other minority, they won’t integrate, but work to build their own separate community.
From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. South Africa's Muslim population is 2%, but they control 35% of the businesses, a large percentage of the banks and have five Cabinet seats while Christians (77% of the population) have none.
They will push for the introduction of halaal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves (along with threats for failure to comply).
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia; Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world, but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. (Ei: car-burnings in France last October.) Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats.
After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning (India, Mindanao, Philippines).
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare [Indonesia].
From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya (infidel tax). (Sudan, Kosovo, Lebanon and Egypt).
After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide [Western Papua (New Guinea), Iran, Biafra, Turkey and North Nigeria].
100% will usher in the peace of "Dar-es-Salaam" - House of Peace - as in Saudi Arabia, Libya and Yemen.
Will Europe Resist Islamization? - YES!
and the conversion of Magdi Cristiano Allam was the first step! thank you B16!!!!
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