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Study: Humans Drove Final Nail into Mammoth Coffin
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Posted on 04/02/2008 2:02:53 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: Sub-Driver
Mammoth Coffin

Did Ted Kennedy Die?

21 posted on 04/02/2008 2:30:52 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Sub-Driver
...Around 6,000 years ago when the climate warmed in North Eurasia where mammoths lived, our ancestors were able to move in to the region. Once there, they might have hunted the already weakened population of mammoths to oblivion.

During the [earlier] interglacial period, climates were fairly warm, so why didn't [mammoths] go extinct then?" said Persaram Batra, a climate modeler at Mount Holyoke College in Massachusetts, who worked on the study. It "could be because humans weren't there. Mammoth populations were so sparse, that if there had been humans, maybe they would have gone extinct.
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The debate is over. Rock solid "might be"s,"could be"s and "maybe"s
22 posted on 04/02/2008 2:37:31 PM PDT by stylin19a
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But climate doesn't seem to explain the entirety of the mammoth's extinction. These hardy animals had survived, barely, a previous interglacial period of planet warming around 126,000 years ago.

Probably because 126,000 years ago there weren't any humans in North America and plenty few elsewhere.
23 posted on 04/02/2008 2:43:43 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Sub-Driver

YEC INTREP


24 posted on 04/02/2008 2:52:57 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: PeterFinn

Someone, somewhere, feels guilty about this.


25 posted on 04/02/2008 3:10:14 PM PDT by tbw2 ("Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" by Tamara Wilhite - on amazon.com)
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Someone, somewhere, feels guilty about this.

Not me. I'm sure I would not be here were it not for my Nordic and Celtic ancestors having mammoth pot roast dinners on Sundays.

26 posted on 04/02/2008 3:18:53 PM PDT by PeterFinn (I am not voting for McCain. No way, no how.)
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To: PeterFinn

It was 15 feet higher here on the west coast of the United States. Lowlying reas along the coastline here were unindated with seawater, creating deep inlets into mountainous areas, or what today look like abandoned beaches high above today’s sealevel beaches.

15000 years ago the paleo shoreline was 23-25 miles further west of today’s present shoreline.


27 posted on 04/02/2008 3:24:01 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately seeking a conservative candidate.)
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To: PeterFinn

“mammoth pot roast dinners”

I’d go for Mammoth Teriyaki.

OBTW, didn’t the modern discoverers of the frozen mammoths actually feast on some of the 10,000 year old meat?


28 posted on 04/02/2008 3:32:09 PM PDT by elcid1970 (;^))
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To: Sub-Driver
Yesterdays Evil humans to blame thread
29 posted on 04/02/2008 3:33:18 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Do we want Huma answered the White House phone at 3AM?)
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To: Judith Anne; Sub-Driver

“There are a number of puzzling mysteries...the extinction of the mammoths and saber-toothed tigers, the vanishing of Indian tribes,...Carolina Bays,...wild temperature swings at the end of the Ice Age, and the cause of huge underwater landslides that sent massive (1000 ft. tall) tsunamis racing across the oceans millenia ago...” The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes, by Richard Firestone, Allen West, and Simon Warwick-Smith, will answer those questions and more. A really sobering read, particularly when you realize there is nothing people can do to prevent such an event.

We shouldn’t be blaming humans for the mammoth’s demise, as humans too were eliminated in large numbers at that time. 41,000 years ago a star supernovaed. It took a while for the material from that blast to arrive on Earth, and when it did, the results were catastrophic. This book details all the scientific evidence in layman’s terms.

Hope this helps in settling the arguments.


30 posted on 04/02/2008 3:37:09 PM PDT by SatinDoll (Desperately seeking a conservative candidate.)
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To: ASA Vet

It’s those damn SUV that Fred and Barney used to drive,


31 posted on 04/02/2008 3:40:49 PM PDT by JimC214
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To: Sub-Driver

Study: Humans Drove Final Nail into Mammoth Coffin

Actually, it was me.


32 posted on 04/02/2008 4:07:15 PM PDT by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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To: Sub-Driver
April fool or not, I notice a trend with all these "documentaries" thrown together with fancy graphics (all fictional), and validated by "scientists" whom we've never heard of before, and whom we'll never hear from again. The common thread, as with global warming, is the absolute faith, the belief actually, that just as with global warming, man is the primary culprit.

These "experts" have two things in common. One -- they can, with absolute confidence, examine a tiny toe bone and invent a whole social structure for the individual, including what he had for breakfast, his family attitudes, where he got water and food, and how he viewed strangers from another culture - like a liberal from Berkeley would, with input from sister Theresa, complete with touchy-feely psychobabble.
Second, they treat their theories as absolute faith. The zealots of the promised land had nothing over these guys.

The only thing that remains a mystery, and should fuel generations of pschiatrists and psychologists, is the need for these parasites, usually subsisting on grants and foundation money, to blame man for everything in the history of the cosmos. Without hesitation, doubts or qualifiers of any kind.

Needless to say, man has existed only to somehow screw up nature, and man has no rights whatsoever to assume his role in the big picture. That would require, well --- a giant leap of faith.

33 posted on 04/02/2008 5:56:30 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Judith Anne

Freeze-dried Mammoths? Can’t we just add water, stir, and bring them back?


34 posted on 04/02/2008 6:01:44 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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Evidently, they’re edible in Siberia.

And there are so many that froze instantly with fresh greens in their stomachs, that they have become a nearly limitless source of ivory for the trade.

That wasn’t climate change in years, months, or even weeks—they would have migrated, starved, rotted. That was climate change in a day. Had to be a huge catastrophe, I’ve wondered for years what happened, and I guess we’ll never know.

Siberia is one of the most fascinating areas on earth, under the ice....


35 posted on 04/02/2008 7:06:38 PM PDT by Judith Anne (I have no idea what to put here. Not a clue.)
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The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes: Flood, Fire, and Famine in the History of Civilization The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes:
Flood, Fire, and Famine
in the History of Civilization

by Richard Firestone,
Allen West, and
Simon Warwick-Smith


36 posted on 04/03/2008 9:50:17 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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Climate Change And Human Hunting Combine To Drive The Woolly Mammoth Extinct
Science Daily | 4-1-2008 | PLoS Biology
Posted on 04/01/2008 12:57:30 PM PDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1995058/posts


37 posted on 04/03/2008 9:55:43 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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The Mystery Of Mammoth Tusks With Iron Fillings
Alaska Report News | 3-5-2008 | Ned Rozell
Posted on 03/08/2008 2:03:28 PM PST by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1982619/posts


38 posted on 04/03/2008 9:56:22 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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Humans may have struck the final blow that killed the woolly-mammoth, but climate change seems to have played a major part in setting up the end-game
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39 posted on 04/03/2008 9:58:45 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_____________________Profile updated Saturday, March 29, 2008)
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