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First USAF Tanker Arrives in Dresden
Aviation Week ^ | 3/31/2008 | Amy Butler

Posted on 04/03/2008 3:51:37 PM PDT by e_castillo

In the midst of the firestorm that is the contested U.S. Air Force KC-45 refueling tanker program, the first of the new aircraft has been sent to Germany for its cargo conversion.

Northrop Grumman/EADS North America officials have been coy about how much work they are doing with the $60 million provided by the Air Force before Boeing protested the team's win. The company has not discussed much about its work since Boeing's March 11 protest of the award.

But, now Northrop Grumman has acknowledged that D-1, the first developmental KC-45, was sent to Dresden March 4. Work was scheduled to begin on the aircraft March 12, though the company hasn't confirmed it is under way.

If Northrop Grumman/EADS keeps the contract, the aircraft will head to CASA's facility in Madrid for its refueling mission system. Final military modifications will be added at Northrop Grumman's Melbourne, Fla., facility. The first flight test was scheduled for February 2010 prior to the protest.

Here are some pictures of D-1, the first A330 for the U.S. Air Force's KC-45 development program, arriving in Dresden for the conversion.


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KEYWORDS: aerospace; boeing; tanker; tankerdeal; usaf
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So where are all the jobs?
1 posted on 04/03/2008 3:51:38 PM PDT by e_castillo
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To: e_castillo
AF, tanker, Dresden.

There's gotta be a joke in there somewhere.

2 posted on 04/03/2008 3:54:21 PM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: e_castillo

Where is Boeing’s tanker?


3 posted on 04/03/2008 3:56:10 PM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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To: tgusa

Parked somewhere I would imagine. Why would they want to fly?

Until the protest is decided the money’s frozen except for the amount NG took off the table before hand. Looks like they are spending it wisely, in Europe of course.


4 posted on 04/03/2008 4:03:06 PM PDT by e_castillo
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To: e_castillo

Is this the first time a USAF aircraft has landed there?


5 posted on 04/03/2008 4:03:38 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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photo credit: Northrop Grumman

6 posted on 04/03/2008 4:03:59 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: tgusa

Grounded....heehee.

>>>Where is Boeing’s tanker?


7 posted on 04/03/2008 4:05:49 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Paleo Conservative

No. Thats the title the Author gave the article.

But I see where you’re going :) Maybe I should have added “Barf Alert”.


8 posted on 04/03/2008 4:07:14 PM PDT by e_castillo
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Thanks for the pics... Size does matter doesn’t it!


9 posted on 04/03/2008 4:07:58 PM PDT by e_castillo
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To: e_castillo

Air Force refueling tankers?

I thought, from reading a few years back, that the Air Force of the future would be unmanned fighters and bombers and ultralight remote controlled vehicles?

So, that being the case, why is the U.S. spending so much on tankers which are designed for refueling manned aircraft? Wont that be hundreds of billions spent and wasted on tankers whose missions will be obsolete in a few years?


10 posted on 04/03/2008 4:11:06 PM PDT by adorno
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To: adorno

Unmanned aircraft need fuel too.


11 posted on 04/03/2008 4:14:11 PM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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“I thought, from reading a few years back, that the Air Force of the future would be unmanned fighters and bombers and ultralight remote controlled vehicles?”

You forgot to mention Cubicles. Lots and lots of Cubicles...

I really don’t think any major unmanned effort would be in a few years. I don’t see why the drones won’t be able to refuel on their own.


12 posted on 04/03/2008 4:14:31 PM PDT by e_castillo
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To: adorno

Presumably drones will need to be refuelled, too.


13 posted on 04/03/2008 4:16:17 PM PDT by Tallguy (Tagline is offline till something better comes along...)
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To: e_castillo
Lots and lots of Cubicles...

But, cubicles would be a lot cheaper than tankers and fighters and bombers with multi-million dollar trained pilots.

I really don’t think any major unmanned effort would be in a few years. I don’t see why the drones won’t be able to refuel on their own.

But still, drones would not need as much fuel as a piloted plane and we might be building and purchasing much more tankers than would be needed in future operations.
14 posted on 04/03/2008 4:22:05 PM PDT by adorno
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Unmanned aircraft need fuel too.

Uuhhh! I had no idea!

But, when you consider the amount of space that pilots and the cockpit requirements would get freed up and that could then be used for more fuel for the unmanned aircraft to fly longer distances, I still don't see the need for so many tankers. A drone or unmanned aircraft might then be capable of flying round-trip to anywhere in the world without the need for refueling.
15 posted on 04/03/2008 4:27:49 PM PDT by adorno
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To: adorno

Ohhhh, why do we need THAT many tankers? Same reason WIC advertises, if you don’t use the money, you lose it. Doling out contracts is POWER baby.


16 posted on 04/03/2008 4:30:16 PM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: adorno

I think one of the great benefits of drones is that they can hang around or loiter and thus would need fuel. The more the merrier... Just wake the guy in the Cube next to yours and let him fly for a while :)


17 posted on 04/03/2008 4:30:47 PM PDT by e_castillo
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To: adorno

Well ...yes and no. Combat requires an awful lot of fuel. And yes, unmanned combat aircraft are envisioned to be capable of inflight refueling - not that much of a stretch in capability especially with the USAF boom.


18 posted on 04/03/2008 4:34:57 PM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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To: e_castillo

“Why would they want to fly?”

Because they’re contracted to be delivering tankers right now to - where - Japan?


19 posted on 04/03/2008 4:37:43 PM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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To: adorno

The future is a long ways away and you apparently have no idea how many manned aircraft are in service and coming on line in the next decade. We’re at least a generation away from commencing the transition to a largely unmanned fleet.


20 posted on 04/03/2008 4:44:53 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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