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Walls close in on Phelpses - Westboro Baptist church
http://www.cjonline.com/stories/040408/loc_264906171.shtml ^ | April 04, 2008 | Mike Hall

Posted on 04/03/2008 10:54:37 PM PDT by Between the Lines

A federal judge in Maryland on Thursday ordered liens on the Westboro Baptist Church building and the Phelps-Chartered Law office.

If the case presided over by U.S. District Court Judge Richard D. Bennett is upheld by an appeals court, the church, at 3701 S.W. 12th, and the office building, at 1414 S.W. Topeka Blvd., could be obtained by the court and sold, with the proceeds being applied toward $5 million in damages Bennett imposed on church members for picketing a military funeral.

A lien is a legal hold on property, making it collateral against money owed to a person or entity. It can keep the owner from selling the property or transferring title to the property.

The $5 million penalty is the result of a lawsuit filed against three of the church's principals by Albert Snyder, the father of Marine Lance Cpl. Matthew A. Snyder, whose funeral was picketed by church members.

The senior Snyder contended the picketing caused emotional distress and invasion of privacy.

Westboro Baptist members regularly picket funerals of members of the U.S. armed forces, contending the deaths are God's punishment for the country's support of homosexuals.

One of Snyder's attorneys, Sean Summers, of York, Pa., said Thursday that based on financial information supplied during a hearing on the case, paying the $5 million penalty likely would force the church and the three named officials of the church to file for bankruptcy.

However, he said, even bankruptcy wouldn't let them out from under the $2.1 million punitive damages part of the judge's order. They would still be obligated for that amount under federal bankruptcy rules.

A jury awarded Snyder compensatory damage of $2.9 million and punitive damage of $8 million. But the judge on Feb. 4 reduced the punitive damage to $2.1 million, for a total judgment of $5 million.

In addition, the judge on Thursday required Shirley Phelps-Roper to post a $125,000 bond and Rebekah Phelps-Davis to post a $100,000 bond by May 5 or he will rescind a stay ordered by the court to prevent confiscation of their property.

But Phelps-Roper, an attorney, called that meaningless. She said the only property she and Phelps-Davis own are their homes and courts are forbidden from confiscating a person's home.

"I have nothing at risk," she said.

In February, Bennett ordered Phelps-Roper, Phelps-Davis and their father, Pastor Fred W. Phelps Sr., to provide detailed financial information about their interests.

The records showed the church property to be worth $442,800 and the law office building to be worth $233,000. Summers said the lien could be placed on the law office building because it is owned by Phelps Sr.

"He (the judge) looked at my tax returns and saw that we give money to the church, and he didn't like that," Phelps-Roper said.

She said there has been a lot of misinformation about the church and the Phelps family being wealthy. She said there was even a rumor that her father owned a "summer home."

She said that came from a humorous answering machine message that said, "This is the Phelps family summer home — some are home and some are not."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: phelps; ruling; wbc

1 posted on 04/03/2008 10:54:37 PM PDT by Between the Lines
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To: Between the Lines

Couldn't happen to a better group of a-holes.

2 posted on 04/03/2008 10:59:27 PM PDT by Squeako (Obama because he's black, Clinton because she's a woman, McCain because he's a Vet/POW. No thanks.)
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To: Between the Lines

As repulsive and disgusting that this so-called church is, this is a dangerous path to go down. It won’t be long before million dollar judgments will go against churches who preach against homosexuality.


3 posted on 04/03/2008 11:01:53 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Always Right

I didn’t think of it that way, but I suppose that you are probably right.


4 posted on 04/03/2008 11:26:35 PM PDT by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: Between the Lines; Always Right

“I didn’t think of it that way, but I suppose that you are probably right.”

Well, he is... Always Right.


5 posted on 04/03/2008 11:42:09 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Between the Lines

I’m not going to hold my breath. In addition to being the biggest bunch of a$$holes in North America, they are also lawyers and I’m sure they have taken multiple steps to safeguard their assets. Their money is probably spread around among “charities”, corporations and overseas bank accounts.


6 posted on 04/03/2008 11:50:24 PM PDT by elmer fudd (Fukoku kyohei)
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To: Always Right
As repulsive and disgusting that this so-called church is, this is a dangerous path to go down. It won’t be long before million dollar judgments will go against churches who preach against homosexuality.

Wrong! This judgement was against the church protesting a funeral that had nothing to do with Homosexuality. It was harrassment at a funeral so these assclowns parading as Christians could get their 15 mins of fame. Personally I would have hired bikers to beat them to death if this was my son and their rights (and lives) be damned!

7 posted on 04/03/2008 11:57:10 PM PDT by Bommer (Hmmm who to vote for? A Far leftist? A Radical Leftist? Or a Republican that enjoys being a Leftist?)
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To: Always Right; Between the Lines
> As repulsive and disgusting that this so-called church is, this is a dangerous path to go down. It won’t be long before million dollar judgments will go against churches who preach against homosexuality.

Come on now, don't go paranoid on us. This so-called church is a travesty -- offensive, arrogant, hurtful, evil. Not because they're against homosexuality, because they picket private military funerals and say things that are so over the line as to be actionable.

The judgment is not for preaching against homosexuality -- there are thousands of people and organizations who preach against homosexuality, and will continue to do so, with impunity as long as they don't break -other- laws.

These evil b@st@rds did -other- things that got them in trouble, besides the preaching. That's why they should be, and hopefully will be, taken out of action.

8 posted on 04/03/2008 11:59:13 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Bommer; Always Right
>> As repulsive and disgusting that this so-called church is, this is a dangerous path to go down. It won’t be long before million dollar judgments will go against churches who preach against homosexuality.

> Wrong! This judgement was against the church protesting a funeral that had nothing to do with Homosexuality. It was harrassment at a funeral so these assclowns parading as Christians could get their 15 mins of fame. Personally I would have hired bikers to beat them to death if this was my son and their rights (and lives) be damned!

AMEN!

Well, maybe not beat them to death. That can get you in more trouble than it's worth for these worthless b@st@rds.

I'd say, have the bikers just form a wall and just walk forward into the picketers, and keep walking. Those picketers who don't skeedaddle in time get stomped on. Don't necessarily need to kill 'em.

Although if ever there were a bunch of folks "in need of killing", as the saying goes...

9 posted on 04/04/2008 12:07:14 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Between the Lines

couldn’t happen to a nicer guy


10 posted on 04/04/2008 12:28:23 AM PDT by clamper1797 (It would be insane to vote for Hussein)
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To: Always Right

Sadly, you’re right on target there. The president set by this is likely to come back to haunt us.

You mentioned churches to preach against homsexuality, but there’s also the issue of abortion. Churches who discourage that are going to be found guilty of crimes against humanity.


11 posted on 04/04/2008 12:41:28 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain is rock solid on SCOTUS judical appointments. He voted for Ginsberg, Kennedy and Souter.)
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To: Between the Lines

If any lawyer could help me out here, I assume Phleps incorporated his chruch thus making it, its own identity. So how would this work in terms of putting a lien on it, if it wasn’ named in the lawsuit, even though the sole owner may be Fred Phelps himself.


12 posted on 04/04/2008 1:08:01 AM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: dayglored

I was kinda hoping a manure truck would have a ‘wardrobe malfunction’ as it was driving by their picket line. :-P


13 posted on 04/04/2008 1:35:42 AM PDT by uglybiker (I do not suffer from mental illness. I quite enjoy it, actually.)
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To: Bommer
Wrong! This judgement was against the church protesting a funeral that had nothing to do with Homosexuality. It was harrassment at a funeral so these assclowns parading as Christians could get their 15 mins of fame. Personally I would have hired bikers to beat them to death if this was my son and their rights (and lives) be damned!


Big Brother appreciates the excuse to "restore order"...

14 posted on 04/04/2008 5:32:33 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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